Anyone else's parents ignorant and sabotaging in dieting?

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  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    I can see you've already gotten a lot of advice on dealing with the psychological aspect of your situation. I hope you talk to the counselors at school. Use the resources available to you!

    Now, I'd like to see you out of that toxic home environment. I think a TON of your stress will diminish once you've gotten away from your family. I realize moving out on your own can be very daunting. Do you have any friends in college you can talk to about how they got started on their own? I knew plenty of friends that went to school full time, got jobs or did work-study, and then moved out. Most of us moved out into a roommate situation at first (very cost effective when you don't have the means for a place of your own) and then established more stability/finances/independence from there. Sometimes just talking to supportive people can help you get your mind around what you need to do for yourself. And they can help you take those first steps. Good luck. And even when it gets really bad, just remember you WON'T be stuck at home forever. You have your whole life ahead of you - and they don't have to be in it unless you want them to be.
  • Stripeness
    Stripeness Posts: 511 Member
    All of this - and yep, I got out. Have I fallen along the way? Sure. Still have scars & issues? Sure.

    Yet, I'm also successful and have let go of my anger. I no longer allow my parents in my life beyond holiday card exchange, yet sincerely hope they find a way to be less harmful to themselves and those around them. Unlikely at this point in their lives, but you never know.

    Overall, I'm healthy - and getting even healthier all the time.

    Life is GOOD. And short. Get out and get on with your life, ASAP.

    Because you CAN. And because you DESERVE to.

    Hi! I want to start by saying the following comes from someone who lived with abuse for way longer than she should have and this is everything I wish someone would have said to me:

    Another poster mentioned that people who grow up in environments such as yours tend to go to one extreme or the other. This is totally true and it's really important that you talk to someone to ensure this doesn't happen to you.

    There may be a bit of two issues going on here - one is just plain cultural differences where your family only knows how to show you love by feeding you. You rebel and don't eat enough, they push, you push on and on. Also, a lot of what you described is actual ABUSE. Not just crazy parents.

    When you're right in the middle of the cycle of abuse the victim thinks "there is NO WAY out. I can't" and the perpetrators act like "There is NO WAY out. You can't" How many times have you heard of people tolerating because they believe there is no way out? It's a huge red flag and it's important that you know that this is part of the cycle. The moment when your brain shifts from "I CAN'T" to "I CAN" is freaking liberating let me tell ya. And most need a lot of help to get there. You've come really far by yourself, but every 19 year old needs help (everyone of any age needs help now and again) but most can get it at home - you can't and that's OK. Doesn't mean you can't get help - just means you have to look somewhere else. If you don't like the first counselor, keep pushing until you find one you do.

    I think you agree with all of us when we say you have to get out. counseling will help you do this. Doesn't make sense right now, but please trust me - if you don't want to see someone for any of the other reasons posted, at least do it for this one. It will help you move out.

    I'm guessing financial aid asks if living at home is an option and you say yes so they say too bad? It's their job to make sure they hold on to the purse strings and they're not qualified to judge the safety of your life at home. If this is true, you need to go a completely different route. Any one of the numbers listed will get you someone on the phone who can get you in touch with the right people to help you. 1. You can go to a shelter. Really - you CAN. I used to work at one and we had young women who abused by people other than their spouses all the time. They are there for people who feel like they have no where to go. Part of what they do is help step-by-step with the right funding for your situation, job help, and living arrangements. Along with the right counseling for you. 2. Talk to someone at social services. I'm not saying you have to live on welfare your whole life, I'm saying this type of school funding is through a different avenue and again they can hook you up with housing. Financial aid is for your average person looking for some aid to get to school. It totally sucks but you need to go ahead let "them" label your house as unsafe for your health so that they will help you get out.

    This part is the most important:

    You actually deserve to be healthy and happy. No really - you do. you have the RIGHT to live free of anger and resentment. You also have the RIGHT to live free of abuse - abuse from others and abuse from YOURSELF. You are smart and really CAN do this.

    Doing what you're doing will get you more of what you're getting so go ahead and try a few things people have suggested here even if you're skeptical. You never know, right?

    Add me and PM anytime,

    Krispy
  • just move out

    the +1 means they agree with the above poster(s)

    lol "just move out"
    yeah I'll just go out on the street with my $0 and 0 friends and live my life like a hobo.
    no offense, but thats a no-go. and i'm not that enthralled with the notion of living in a homeless shelter, I'd rather live here and deal with bull than live in a homeless shelter. but this forum was 'anyone else's parents ignorant and sabotaging in dieting?' not a place for people to say things like this and pretend its really 'that easy' to up and leave the only place i've ever known with no money and no job and absolutely no friends or external and extended family. i just wanted to know if other people's parents tried to sabotage their diets so i would feel like people understand my struggle.
  • My daughter is 20 and in college. Please check with the counseling office. There is someone there who will help you. Also, sorry about your dad's abuse. You can let it ruin your life by keeping up the anger and letting it turn to bitterness, or you can let the anger go. It isn't hurting your dad-it's only hurting you. My mother was unkind in her favoritism of her adult children and I had to let my anger over that go. She didn't recognize what she was doing, and so me being angry and hurt was only hurting me.

    Also, is it possible for you to get a job while in college? I worked summers and weekends. I got married in college to another student and parental supported ended. I needed the $ to keep going to school.

    Check out financial aid for real. My daughter is paying for most of her college through loans and work-study.

    Good luck. Don't let you upbringing and parents define who you are. You can do this!

    I quoted this poster for her comments regarding anger. You rightfully are angry, but as noted, that anger is only going to hurt YOU, and not change your parents or your situation. Holding on to such anger can affect you physically and mentally. Letting go of it can do wonders for a person. It's not easy. Being in school, you should have access to mental health counselors at your school's clinic. Depending on the size of your school, they may have several who each approach mental health in different ways. If that's the case, you should try each of them and see which one you think works best for you. Then have regular sessions with them to try to work out your anger, and any other issues that may arise while working through it.

    Yes, it's easy to tell you "move out," "take out student loans," etc. I know loan debt and repayments are an enormous burden that have become the norm for a lot of people in the US. If you can avoid them, you should. However, you ARE in an abusive situation. There's no question. You're 19, which means you have likely developed fewer coping mechanisms than someone older than you may have, and can make it harder to deal with difficult situations. So, if you CAN find a way to get out, yes, you should. Do you know others you could rent a place with together? Can you work full time over the summer, get two jobs if you must (and can find them), to save for a dorm room or studio apartment next school year? Do you know someone from whom you can just rent a room? If you cannot, PLEASE at least take advantage of the counselors at your school. It seems your plan was to stay at home until you graduate, which if you stick to four years, will be in a little more than two. That's a long time to remain in such a toxic situation.

    As the above poster also mentioned, you could try to find a job that allows you to work weekends and summers. I did that as well during my undergrad years. If you continue to live at home, that would keep you out of the house more, and allow you to save so that maybe if you can't find a way to move out now, you can move out for your last year of school. It would also give you money to buy your own food, and maybe that would give you a little more control. You might say that your dad would throw it out. Well, buy yourself breakfast and lunch at your cafeteria or whatever (find the healthiest options you can, gives you more control than at home), or buy things daily that you can consume at school. There are ways to work around everything. It's not easy, you just have to find a way or make a way. Your situation is not easy, so unless you move out, you need to make a way to be as healthy as you can.

    As a last comment, in your profile you say that you have lost nearly 100 pounds and that God gave you your body and you shouldn't treat it like crap. You already admitted you're underweight. I echo the responses of others to also seek counseling regarding the possibility of an eating disorder. And lastly, if you really believe your comment about God, maybe you should ask yourself what you think God would want in order for you to have a HEALTHY mind and body and life, and act accordingly.

    Ah so much to respond to here.

    Firstly, I can't afford counseling and my school recently was sued for how bad the counseling was at our school (they did some VERY bad things and basically told kids who were raped to shut up about it and go away).

    Second, I HAD two jobs at the beginning of the year. Guess who made me quit them? MY DAD.
    He forbid me to use the car and told me if I didn't quit I would ruin the family by wasting the gas to get to work. He claimed that since it was minimum wage, the job was paying less than it would take to drive to work...the freaking job was 10 mins from my house. Seriously! So once again he trapped me at home.

    He won't let me drive to school either, he drives me in the morning to the train station, drops me off in the ghetto in the freezing cold, and has me commute 30+ minutes to the middle of a city (we have no campus) where I just go to class and come home after. He works at a machine shop and gets out at 5 pm, so I'm trapped in the city (with no campus) regardless of whether or not class gets out (I get there at 5:30 AM cause that's when he leaves for HIS work and he is all that matters) so if class starts at 10 AM and gets out at 12:00 PM, I'm sitting in the lobby of starbucks for the remaining time...which means 12-5 just sitting there or in the library, which is small and overcrowded so i never can get seating. this isn't just about me not being able to move out super easily and miraculously get counseling and a car and a job and then everything will be peachy!

    and for the millionth time, I swear I don't have a freaking eating disorder, I'm just learning HOW to eat and mastering it after 18 years of pure diet hell.
  • mfp2014mfp
    mfp2014mfp Posts: 689 Member
    You are 19, leave home. As you are now an adult it's time for you to move on from your childhood and be accountable for your life as it is NOW, staying in this environment is NOT good for you, but if you CHOOSE to stay anything that happens will be on YOUR OWN head.
  • adding details so people don't keep saying the same things:

    typo on my profile! i didn't lose 100 pounds, it was more like 90-85, I made an error there.

    i've seen doctors, NOTHING IS WRONG HERE, so please stop telling me to seek medical advice.

    i'm not going to a shelter, dammit, i just wanted to know if people had EXPERIENCES LIKE MINE.
  • Zekela
    Zekela Posts: 634 Member
    OP:
    I don't know where you live, (or all of the circumstances) but if you are in the US, here are some places you can contact for some help. Also, chat with your school to see what options are available there. If need be, you can always show them your post.

    By calling 1-800-273-TALK (8255) you’ll be connected to a skilled, trained counselor at a crisis center in your area, anytime 24/7.
    http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

    http://www.211.org/

    http://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/immediate-help/index.html

    eta:
    adding this link just in case

    http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/find-help-support

    +1

    +2

    +3

    love this!!! This need to be posted in 60% of the forum topics!
  • HanamiDango
    HanamiDango Posts: 456 Member
    From your profile "God gave me a body, why would I treat it like crap by feeding it crap?" God also gave you a mind, why wasted it by making excuses? You need to seek help for yourself. Angry is not an emotion you want to live with. Also, get a job that you walk to, and living in a shelter, well, people do what they have to to better themselves. You are young, you still have so much life to live, so live it, without excuses. The saying goes "when you live in my house, it is my rules" so find a way to make your own home, even from nothing, build yourself up. What can you lose?
  • BenPVolk
    BenPVolk Posts: 22 Member
    The OP should be thankful for her parents.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    The OP should be thankful for her parents.

    Are you sh*tting me? They abuse her! How is that something to be thankful for? Did you even read the OP?:noway:
  • catfive1
    catfive1 Posts: 529 Member
    Hi! I want to start by saying the following comes from someone who lived with abuse for way longer than she should have and this is everything I wish someone would have said to me:

    Another poster mentioned that people who grow up in environments such as yours tend to go to one extreme or the other. This is totally true and it's really important that you talk to someone to ensure this doesn't happen to you.

    There may be a bit of two issues going on here - one is just plain cultural differences where your family only knows how to show you love by feeding you. You rebel and don't eat enough, they push, you push on and on. Also, a lot of what you described is actual ABUSE. Not just crazy parents.

    When you're right in the middle of the cycle of abuse the victim thinks "there is NO WAY out. I can't" and the perpetrators act like "There is NO WAY out. You can't" How many times have you heard of people tolerating because they believe there is no way out? It's a huge red flag and it's important that you know that this is part of the cycle. The moment when your brain shifts from "I CAN'T" to "I CAN" is freaking liberating let me tell ya. And most need a lot of help to get there. You've come really far by yourself, but every 19 year old needs help (everyone of any age needs help now and again) but most can get it at home - you can't and that's OK. Doesn't mean you can't get help - just means you have to look somewhere else. If you don't like the first counselor, keep pushing until you find one you do.

    I think you agree with all of us when we say you have to get out. counseling will help you do this. Doesn't make sense right now, but please trust me - if you don't want to see someone for any of the other reasons posted, at least do it for this one. It will help you move out.

    I'm guessing financial aid asks if living at home is an option and you say yes so they say too bad? It's their job to make sure they hold on to the purse strings and they're not qualified to judge the safety of your life at home. If this is true, you need to go a completely different route. Any one of the numbers listed will get you someone on the phone who can get you in touch with the right people to help you. 1. You can go to a shelter. Really - you CAN. I used to work at one and we had young women who abused by people other than their spouses all the time. They are there for people who feel like they have no where to go. Part of what they do is help step-by-step with the right funding for your situation, job help, and living arrangements. Along with the right counseling for you. 2. Talk to someone at social services. I'm not saying you have to live on welfare your whole life, I'm saying this type of school funding is through a different avenue and again they can hook you up with housing. Financial aid is for your average person looking for some aid to get to school. It totally sucks but you need to go ahead let "them" label your house as unsafe for your health so that they will help you get out.

    This part is the most important:

    You actually deserve to be healthy and happy. No really - you do. you have the RIGHT to live free of anger and resentment. You also have the RIGHT to live free of abuse - abuse from others and abuse from YOURSELF. You are smart and really CAN do this.

    Doing what you're doing will get you more of what you're getting so go ahead and try a few things people have suggested here even if you're skeptical. You never know, right?

    Add me and PM anytime,

    Krispy

    Krispy has some really good advice for you.
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
    Did you really expect to post something like you did, and NOT get responses from people who are concerned about the situation? There are still good people out there who care about their "neighbors." Far too few of them, far too many who think "it's none of my business," but still some.

    You are in an abusive situation. And even if you lost 85 pounds rather than 100, based on what you have said about yourself, you are still underweight. Maybe SOME of what your parents have said and done is out of concern, but the way they do it is also abusive. No one deserves to be called an "ugly anorexic *****." That kind of abuse wears you down.

    And there were only maybe two posters who suggested moving out in a flippant way. Others suggested it, along with realistic suggestions of how to do so. It is NOT easy. But you also can't expect to change things for yourself with a negative attitude. You may be in a ****ty situation, but you can do everything you can to have a healthy mind, as much as is possible anyway if you stay in that situation. And doing everything YOU can to change YOUR mental state will go a long way to being able to survive your situation until you move out.

    I am not a counselor, I am not a health professional, I am not a mental health professional. But, from what I do know, frankly, you seem like a "typical" domestic violence victim in some ways, though this is parent/child rather than partner abuse. This is not a criticism and not meant to offend you, it is just what I see. While many victims deny there's abuse, many recognize it, but give many excuses as to why they stay. And why they stay is very complex. You can't tell them to "leave" and expect they'll do it. They're not in the same frame of mind as someone who is not a victim. And, there are often very, very real economic reasons for why they stay, that may seem impossible to them to overcome. So, I realize telling you to move out, seek counseling, etc, is falling on deaf ears. But maybe someone will get through to you eventually if people just keep saying it to you.

    Is there no public transportation in your city that would allow you to get to a job and to school without your dad's help?

    You were provided with phone numbers, resources to reach out to. There are things you can do to try to find a way to get out of that house. Even reading books to try some self-help is something. Believe in the Christian God? Read self-help books of that genre. Read books on meditation. Read books about surviving abuse. Anything, any action to try to help yourself, is better than nothing. Those resources may be able to help you find counselors in your area that you can go to. They may be able to point you to local resources for finding jobs, for getting out of abusive situations, for setting up housing. But you're the only one who can make it happen.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    The OP should be thankful for her parents.

    Are you sh*tting me? They abuse her! How is that something to be thankful for? Did you even read the OP?:noway:

    I think there's quite a bit being left out of the story. OP, again, please seek counseling. Even if it's calling a hotline and talking to someone by phone.
  • rowlandsw
    rowlandsw Posts: 1,166 Member
    I agree about finding the school counselor and she/he may even be able to get you some sort of aid to move out of the house and into the dorms. Your house isn't a healthy place to be right now. I wouldn't be grateful to them for much at this point if they're so out of touch with things.
  • AABru
    AABru Posts: 610 Member
    To answer the question that the OP asked originally: Yes. Some of us have done quite well for ourselves coming from families where our parents had no clue about how to eat and thought that buttermilk was healthier for kids because kids "need fat," and that 178 pounds in FOURTH grade was normal because we were "big-boned." It happens. Do I hate them? No. Was it a learning experience for me--absolutely. I lost 80 pounds my freshman and sophomore year of college and was also called anorexic by family, but I still weighed 170 after losing that weight. I was never beaten for not finishing my food, but I did get it for breakfast the next day. Now I am finding that after 20 years, my parents are asking my advice because they are literally afraid for their health.

    So that being said: The fact that your father has isolated you so much causes me much more concern than your weight at this point. I think that perhaps you could be spending the hours that you "do nothing in the city sitting in coffee shop" could be spent WORKING in said coffee shop or someplace nearby to start to save money. You are in a city with businesses and such. Find a bank. Open an account. Start saving. Talk to people and make friends. Ask questions. Use the time to work out on campus and talk to students. Volunteer to tutor on campus. I can think of a myriad of things you could be doing with that time to better yourself. I have a mental image of you sulking in Starbucks in the corner all day. It's time to lose your fear of growth and well...grow. You are 19...the world is your pond. Go swimming sister! I hope you are able to move forward...it is really scary to change. But change is the only true constant in life.
  • cutiepie9447
    cutiepie9447 Posts: 79 Member
    I can't understand why you aren't working for the 5 hours a day that you have free....wouldn't that be much more productive then sitting around feeling sorry for yourself? What "reason" would your dad have for you not to be working during these times? I fear this is a situation of a "rebelling teenager". When I was young and got pissed at my parents, I used to STRONGLY exaggerate things (mostly for attention) also. Maybe you did suffer from some type of abuse but when you turned 18 your parents could have kicked you out to the street. Legally doesn't matter if you have money or not they do not have to take care of you anymore. But they let you, their adult child, live with them rent free and provide you with food (although in your mind not healthy enough) without charging you for groceries. Your dad takes you to the train every morning so you can go to school. You are an adult now and they don't have to do any of that. It is a good thing, however that you are making an attempt to release some of your frustrations by ranting a little. Your parents may just be worried about the amount of weight you have lost. They may be frustrated at the countless excuses that you are making which is making you frustrated. Have you ever sat down with them and told them how you felt? (No need to post and excuse as to why you can't). Just take some time and carefully read through all these people responding that the post that you created wanting opinions and responses. Some of the answers here have been so heartfelt, genuine and very helpful if the situation is in fact as you say. I hope you can find what you are looking for in life...if nothing else, enjoy the lasagna then go for a long run during your 5 hour break the next day....

    ETA
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    lol "just move out"
    yeah I'll just go out on the street with my $0 and 0 friends and live my life like a hobo.
    no offense, but thats a no-go. and i'm not that enthralled with the notion of living in a homeless shelter, I'd rather live here and deal with bull than live in a homeless shelter. but this forum was 'anyone else's parents ignorant and sabotaging in dieting?' not a place for people to say things like this and pretend its really 'that easy' to up and leave the only place i've ever known with no money and no job and absolutely no friends or external and extended family. i just wanted to know if other people's parents tried to sabotage their diets so i would feel like people understand my struggle.

    Yeah. Make plans to move out. You're an adult now. You're gonna have to do it eventually - or what? Be dependent, miserable, and take care of dear ol' mom and dad 'til they die? You are not the first young person to grow up in an abusive family. And you are not the first to get out. You can either stay in your self-described hell-hole or start making plans and taking action (even baby steps are something). I moved out (roommate situation) with $500 in savings (from my craptastic PT min wage job) and a POS junker car I bought myself. And I worked and paid my own way through college. No help from dear ol' mom (dead) and dad (terminally ill, abusive, and buried in debt). If I can do it, I'm sure as hell you can. It comes down to how bad you really want your freedom.
  • craftywitch_63
    craftywitch_63 Posts: 829 Member
    You have a ton of anger, ad rightfully so, but carrying that around won't serve you in your mission to be healthy. My best advice...do two things. First, go straight to your financial aid office on Monday. Being the beginning of the year, at the very least you can apply for financial aid for next year to get you into a dorm. If your family is financially challenged, believe me when I say you WILL get aid, even if it is in the form of loans, which you can pay off. Do NOT wait on that step. The financial aid staff are experts at walking you through, and sometimes even have school-based grant money available to help.

    Second, find out if your school has a counseling office. Go see someone to talk through this who can help you know all the ways your upbringing has affected you, and how you can move forward.

    The fact that you don't want to share your weight concerns me a little. I am not saying your parents are right about you having an ED. I don't know you at all, and they sound...well...fun. But get some expert unbiased feedback about your weight goals as well.

    Good luck to you. You are worth all of the things you are doing for yourself.

    ^^^^This. In your post you've admitted that your parents physically and emotionally abused you as a child and continue to do that as an adult. Get financial aid, get some counseling and GET OUT of that situation! If you have younger siblings, please PLEASE call child protective services. No child needs to be clocked in the head for not stuffing themselves full of food. Or for any reason, for that matter.

    In the end you are an adult and you have two choices: (a) get out and get physically, mentally and emotionally healthy, (b) stay there, quit making excuses, nut up, shut up and take it. After all, it's what you know so it's comfortable. Change is hard.

    For those of you about to call me a hater, it's not hate it's

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  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    The OP should be thankful for her parents.

    Are you sh*tting me? They abuse her! How is that something to be thankful for? Did you even read the OP?:noway:

    Remember, we are only hearing one side of the story.
  • lesteidel
    lesteidel Posts: 229 Member
    Begin independent of your parents is a bit like being healthy. When you want it bad enough, you figure out a way.

    Honestly, if your mom made a soup of only veggies, sounds like she was trying to help. Maybe instead of calling her dumb, you help her understand what you are talking about.

    But I think she has a point though,me calories in vegetables is low enough I wouldn't worry about it, honestly. At your age, eating healthy foods should be more of a focus than counting every calorie. Teenagers need a lot of food, and can burn off energy quickly. Vegetable soup will not add a significant enough amount of calories to your day to make a huge fuss and call your mom dumb.

    If they are telling you that foods are calorie free, they are trying to help in their own way. Try callming down and talking to them calmly, without assuming that they are dumb, what you are trying to do.
  • oh my god my mom does this!

    i tell her i'm going on my health binge and next thing i know its chips and ice cream out the *kitten* at the house! hahah
  • lesteidel
    lesteidel Posts: 229 Member
    By the time I was nineteen I had been living on my own for a few years already. When you want to leave, you will figure out a way to get a job and save up the money to get somewhere to live. Until then, it's their house and you are an adult in their house. If you are that unhappy, WALK to work. I walked three miles to work and three miles home to save up money to move out, if you WANT to do it, you will find a way.
  • SJ46
    SJ46 Posts: 407 Member
    I grew up in an abusive environment. After turning 18 I was still isolated and controlled by my parents. I understand what hopelessness and fear feels like. My escape was joining the military, literally I just left home and went to MEPS without telling anyone until after I left. I then stayed with a friend for two weeks prior to leaving for bootcamp. It was extreme but my home life was extreme and it was the only way I saw out of it. It was the best decision I ever made and I credit that move for the wonderful life I have now. I have no doubt that my life would be drastically different otherwise.

    OP - use the time you have while you are waiting for your dad to formulate some options that will help you to get out of this situation. Gather up some strength and start living your life.

    BTW - when my parents found out I left for MEPS they called the police, reported me as a runaway, and expected them to bring me home. I was 18. Seriously.
  • KeRAWRi
    KeRAWRi Posts: 79 Member
    You have a ton of anger, ad rightfully so, but carrying that around won't serve you in your mission to be healthy. My best advice...do two things. First, go straight to your financial aid office on Monday. Being the beginning of the year, at the very least you can apply for financial aid for next year to get you into a dorm. If your family is financially challenged, believe me when I say you WILL get aid, even if it is in the form of loans, which you can pay off. Do NOT wait on that step. The financial aid staff are experts at walking you through, and sometimes even have school-based grant money available to help.

    Second, find out if your school has a counseling office. Go see someone to talk through this who can help you know all the ways your upbringing has affected you, and how you can move forward.

    The fact that you don't want to share your weight concerns me a little. I am not saying your parents are right about you having an ED. I don't know you at all, and they sound...well...fun. But get some expert unbiased feedback about your weight goals as well.

    Good luck to you. You are worth all of the things you are doing for yourself.
  • Commander_Keen
    Commander_Keen Posts: 1,179 Member
    Wholy crap that was way to long for me, to read..
    but lets go over a few thing.. I believe that both your parents are typical parents, coming from their time frame. I would guess hundred of kids ate the same way, as you, but you gained the weight while others did not.
    When you were 10 years old and you saw that you were bigger then everybody else, what activities did you participate in?

    [/quote] My Dad is a first-generation American. He was raised in an Italian family and has NO CONCEPT of calories, salt limits, actually ANYTHING related to nutrition. He doesn't know what carbs are, thought that 'artificial sweeteners' meant something had no sugar in it, and tried to make a case to me that because honey is not 'artificially sweetened' it had not only 'no sugar' but also 'no calories.' He doesn't believe in the TDEE and has no clue what a BMI means. He thinks that his BMI is obese because he is an 'athlete.' Yeah, an athlete who is on heart medication for his high cholesterol, has had 10 kidney stones, and a beer belly. Yeah. Athlete. Sure. [/quote]
    Not everybody knows what BMI or TDEE is, but that doesn't have any bearings on weight loss
    My mom once made a soup she declared had 'no calories' in it cause it was "All vegetables, and veggies don't have calories. Duh
    Well lets talk to about this, Just pure Chicken broth, as 10 calories per serving and for veggies you would need 2/3 of a cup for it be 100 calories. Although its 100 calories its not going to break the bank, which means even if you were to eat at your BMI and then have a cup of soup w/veggies, you would not gain weight.

    I think you need to get a grip and do something about your weight issue.
  • craftywitch_63
    craftywitch_63 Posts: 829 Member
    I grew up in an abusive environment. After turning 18 I was still isolated and controlled by my parents. I understand what hopelessness and fear feels like. My escape was joining the military, literally I just left home and went to MEPS without telling anyone until after I left. I then stayed with a friend for two weeks prior to leaving for bootcamp. It was extreme but my home life was extreme and it was the only way I saw out of it. It was the best decision I ever made and I credit that move for the wonderful life I have now. I have no doubt that my life would be drastically different otherwise.

    OP - use the time you have while you are waiting for your dad to formulate some options that will help you to get out of this situation. Gather up some strength and start living your life.

    BTW - when my parents found out I left for MEPS they called the police, reported me as a runaway, and expected them to bring me home. I was 18. Seriously.

    Seriously awesome advice, SJ46!! Free housing, medical, dental, fitness training, a paycheck and $$ for education! Plus, OP would get to see the world (not everyone goes to Baghdad!) I was an Army wife for 20 years. This will give OP a "break" from her parents and possibly some distance.
  • melissamarah
    melissamarah Posts: 168 Member
    I was not raised in an abusive home. I have completely crazy, but loving parents.

    But my mom grew up in an abusive environment. Her parents were abusive alcoholics, and my grandmother would try and get my mom and aunt to drink with her when they were underage. She would also push food on them, but the alcohol was a much bigger problem.

    My mom moved out as soon as she was 18, and had horrible guilt since her sister's a year younger and had to stay behind. Honestly, my aunt just doesn't talk about what happened that year. My mom joined a sorority, and lived in the sorority house. Eventually she ran out of money, since her class schedule made it near impossible to have a job. So she lived in her car for a while. Then she moved in with one of her teachers. She couch hopped.

    She was still in contact with her parents until I was two years old. Apparently (I luckily have no memory) my grandmother got drunk and angry, and wanted to take me swimming late at night. I guess she tried to rip me out of my mom's arms and I started to cry. My mom and I got on a red-eye flight home, and I never saw my grandmother again, until she was on her deathbed.

    I guess what I'm saying is my mom, aunt and uncle all left the house as soon as they turned 18. They got crappy apartments, they lived in cars, my uncle enlisted and went to VIETNAM instead of staying there.

    Oh, and you mentioned hanging out at Starbucks. I worked for the 'Bucks for over 2 years. I had insurance, 401K, and a flexible schedule. And if you've got your own bank account, they can do direct deposit. Your parents wouldn't have to know. You could stockpile a bit of money, and then slowly look for a tiny place in the city. Oh, and I met my husband there.

    Just out of curiosity, where do you live?
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    I grew up in an abusive home and the answer is the one you do not like, sorry: Leave. Distance yourself emotionally until you can, make a plan and leave. If you are being abused, leave. You will not talk and change your parents, you will not teach your father that hitting or being irrational and controlling are wrong, just going to drive yourself crazy. And first find someone to talk to. Google hotlines for abused children, abused women, mentally ill people and start making calls, worst case, you have wasted a few minutes of your life.
  • I grew up in an abusive environment. After turning 18 I was still isolated and controlled by my parents. I understand what hopelessness and fear feels like. My escape was joining the military, literally I just left home and went to MEPS without telling anyone until after I left. I then stayed with a friend for two weeks prior to leaving for bootcamp. It was extreme but my home life was extreme and it was the only way I saw out of it. It was the best decision I ever made and I credit that move for the wonderful life I have now. I have no doubt that my life would be drastically different otherwise.

    OP - use the time you have while you are waiting for your dad to formulate some options that will help you to get out of this situation. Gather up some strength and start living your life.

    BTW - when my parents found out I left for MEPS they called the police, reported me as a runaway, and expected them to bring me home. I was 18. Seriously.

    Seriously awesome advice, SJ46!! Free housing, medical, dental, fitness training, a paycheck and $$ for education! Plus, OP would get to see the world (not everyone goes to Baghdad!) I was an Army wife for 20 years. This will give OP a "break" from her parents and possibly some distance.

    That might be great for you but I'm not gonna join the army to escape my parents, it seems irrational when there are other options.
  • I grew up in an abusive environment. After turning 18 I was still isolated and controlled by my parents. I understand what hopelessness and fear feels like. My escape was joining the military, literally I just left home and went to MEPS without telling anyone until after I left. I then stayed with a friend for two weeks prior to leaving for bootcamp. It was extreme but my home life was extreme and it was the only way I saw out of it. It was the best decision I ever made and I credit that move for the wonderful life I have now. I have no doubt that my life would be drastically different otherwise.

    OP - use the time you have while you are waiting for your dad to formulate some options that will help you to get out of this situation. Gather up some strength and start living your life.

    BTW - when my parents found out I left for MEPS they called the police, reported me as a runaway, and expected them to bring me home. I was 18. Seriously.

    Seriously awesome advice, SJ46!! Free housing, medical, dental, fitness training, a paycheck and $$ for education! Plus, OP would get to see the world (not everyone goes to Baghdad!) I was an Army wife for 20 years. This will give OP a "break" from her parents and possibly some distance.

    That might be great for you but I'm not gonna join the army to escape my parents, it seems irrational when there are other options.

    in other words I would rather follow my dreams than do something that is completely not interesting (no offense I'm just not into it) and potentially dangerous to me