Food addiction-Sugar

You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

If you want success then lose the excuses

I do not keep anything sugary or salty a la junk food in my house. I cannot. I will eat it. One serving bags? Nope, I will eat every single on of those bags. The only thing that works for me is to NOT keep them in the house. I know this may not be the best strategy for everyone, but it works for me. I have absolutely no self control when it comes to stuff junk food. So it is best to just cut off the supply completely.

Why not try to teach yourself some self-control? That's what it's going to take in the long run. You can't make everything out of sight, out of mind.

Its hard when some one has metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance. I was one of those tough guys with self control, until I developed insulin resistance. Human body is much more complicated than self control, your hormones play a bigger role.

I believe you, but I hardly think most of the "I'm a sugar addict, somebody help me!" threads originate from OPs that have medical issues. It's an assumption on my part, but I think it's a safe one.

Its not really a medical issue, its more hormonal issue. My blood glucose levels are perfectly normal, but the insulin spikes are not. My doctor kept telling me everything was ok, until I luckily stumbled up on the cause after getting a second opinion. I give the benefit of doubt to every one, because their doctor might not be aware of the hormonal changes.

I do not keep anything sugary or salty a la junk food in my house. I cannot. I will eat it. One serving bags? Nope, I will eat every single on of those bags. The only thing that works for me is to NOT keep them in the house. I know this may not be the best strategy for everyone, but it works for me. I have absolutely no self control when it comes to stuff junk food. So it is best to just cut off the supply completely.

Why not try to teach yourself some self-control? That's what it's going to take in the long run. You can't make everything out of sight, out of mind.

This is my form of self control, not keeping it in the house. I practice self control every time I go to the grocery store and not buy these things. You know how hard that is? If I can get out of the store without buying a bag of Cheetos or the half/off Valentines candy, then I WIN.

The form of self control you are talking about is one that does not work for me as I am indeed an out-of-sight-out-of-mind type of person. I know what works for me and I am passing the knowledge on the OP. So spare me your judgment.

Who's judging? Geez, I guess you can't say anything that might question a post on here in regards to advice. But anyway, it sounds like you are exercising self-control by not buying it in the first place. :ohwell:

Maybe you should go back and read your posts. You come off as pretty judgmental as opposed to someone trying to provide advice.

Well, if making an informed decision based on information at hand makes me judgemental, then I guess that's me. I only advise what myself and other successful people on MFP have done to get where they are. Sure, there will always be "trigger foods." I have those. Lots of people have those. I like banana pudding a lot more than bananas, but that doesn't mean I'm addicted to refined sugar. It just means that banana pudding tastes better to me than bananas do.

My point in the original response was that you can't avoid every situation in which sugar will be presented to you. And the OP will have to learn to exercise some self-control beyond what others will need to, since she is living with someone who is not dieting. Does that mean I'm judging? Well, if so, then so be it.

Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.

And that science would be???????

SCIENCE is a funny thing. There are lots of things that couldn't be proven...until they were. There's a lot about the brain and human genetics that aren't yet understood. A lot of people think addiction, in general, is not a disease. I believe it is. I believe there are actual scientists who believe it is. God help us, there might even be scientists that do think FOOD addiction is real! I am not a scientist, and I gather, neither are you. However, I'm sure if you wanted to take some time and research you could find some who do hypothesize about food addiction. A quick google search of "science of food addiction" will lead to several articles that reference scientifc studies of it. For what it's worth, its apparently something that some in the academic/scientific community feel is worthwhile to look into. Until something can be proven false, it does not mean that it cannot be true.

While there are some anecdotes that have circulated on MFP that make me think food addiction can be real, I don't think it's possible to be addicted to sugar in cake and not addicted to sugar in fruit.

You don't think it is. Meaning you really don't know.

Well, let's go back to the whole "you can't prove a negative" post someone made to you earlier.

So, Mythbusters is nothing but LIES?? *mind blown*

cravings for sweet things can mean you are not getting enough sleep or not sleeping deep enough.
do you get your 8+ hours everynight?

Who the hell sleeps that much? You wont get that time back. 8 hour sleep cycles were promoted to help factory shift work in the early 20th century.

Yeah. Most people need more sleep than that. I do best if I get 9 hours.

another sugar thread goes down in flames....

bring on the cat gifs...

All ya had to do was ask!

You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....

Not at all my question was not DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING AS FOOD/SUGAR ADDICTION
it was for tips to stop impulses, if you don't believe in that it exist how are you going to give me tips on how to cope? you cant.

Self control and will power.

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You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....

Not at all my question was not DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING AS FOOD/SUGAR ADDICTION
it was for tips to stop impulses, if you don't believe in that it exist how are you going to give me tips on how to cope? you cant.

Calling it an addiction is slapping every crack head in the face who ever has to suck their way to the next hit.

Self control and will power is what the crack head needs.

You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....

Not at all my question was not DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING AS FOOD/SUGAR ADDICTION
it was for tips to stop impulses, if you don't believe in that it exist how are you going to give me tips on how to cope? you cant.

Calling it an addiction is slapping every crack head in the face who ever has to suck their way to the next hit.

Self control and will power is what the crack head needs.

DIfference being, crack is actually addictive.

OP, I know you've actually left for good, and are not drawn back to this bloodbath like a moth to a dumpster fire, so you will never see this post.

But, everyone who disagrees with you is not a bad person. They may be insensitive and they may not care about your feelings, or they may like seeing you get upset and flustered because they are immature trolls, but they may actually have some knowledge that will ultimately help you.

You're probably (giving you and Ms. TABLE SUGAR the benefit of the doubt) not addicted to sugar, or food. You're probably "addicted" to eating tasty, delicious and fattening foods - meaning you binge on it.

I am not a scientist or anything close, but I know for sure that there has never been ONE good argument that differentiates between naturally occurring sugars, and added sugars, from cane, or corn, or honey. Not one. The truth is that your body processes sugar the exact same way, no matter where it comes from. And I doubt you are addicted to bananas, or apples. Or even that you've ever lost your mind in a drug-addled stupor and poured table sugar down your throat directly from the package like a huge raccoon with thumbs.

Rather than cutting out refined sugars completely - but not the kind in Greek yoghurt with added fruits and jams, because that's totally good sugar - people are recommending that you try moderation, and self-control. You will one day be in an enclosed space with a donut, and if you don't have self-control you'll binge and have 10 donuts and feel really bad about yourself. A better approach would be to realize that the donut is not evil, and that if you can afford it calories-/macro-wise, you can fit it in and be alright. And your weight loss will be much more sustainable.