i dont like lifting :( no results
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Awesome job, and I agree. I was having a lot of problems with my squats, and I would back down and "work on form" whenever it got heavy. But, I didn't ever really change much on form because my form wasn't really that bad. Plus, I'd gone down to two workouts a week. That definitely didn't help mentally with the program. At the beginning of the year, I came off my deload, went back to 3 workouts a week, and I've gone from about 90lb squat to 165lbs. Turns out, squats get heavy. You just push through it.You CAN lift more. You just think you can't.
This is so true! I've been doing Stronglifts regularly since early January (sporadically did weights before that). I was afraid to go heavier than I was because I wasn't sure my form was good so my husband bought me a couple of PT sessions for Valentine's Day (at my request). Today I had the first one and found that not only is my form pretty good (made some minor tweaks) but that I can indeed lift much heavier than I expected!
Once she was comfortable with my form, the trainer pushed me to see what I could do and I am grateful because I left really excited and pumped! We only did deadlifts and squats today but we'll do the rest in our next session.
My highest DL before today was 150 and it's been awhile since I did that. My most recent high deadlift weight was 120.
Today I did 205 pounds
My heaviest squat ever was 108.
Today I did 150 and we didn't even make it to my one rep max for that one. She estimated it was probably close to 180.
I can understand not liking certain exercises, there are some that make me want to jump off a building from the mind numbing boringness of it but I think the key to not getting bored with anything is having goals that you're working toward. If I'm not challenging myself then what's the point? BTW, I'm a 42 year old mom with fibromyalgia and lifting has helped me feel better like nothing else has. I hope you don't give up on it before giving it another try, perhaps with a trainer.
So much of lifting is mental, and I really do have to walk into the gym thinking I'm about to make the bar my *****. There will be a point where I actually do fail, but that's what safety bars are for, and work arounds like chalk to improve grip on deads. And the program has failures built into it and how to deal with them, but you can't be afraid to fail. You have to push yourself until you reach that point.0 -
Something's missing here. I feel like the meat's for the cat.
OP, what's your medical history, eating history, etc. etc.? With no pictures, no stats (other than CURRENT lifts...would like to know what you started out with), I feel like there's a key piece of information missing in all of this.
I did Stronglifts 5x5; I progressed very slowly. It took me MAYBE the same amount of time as you to get OHP to even be the bar. Key? I have a history of anorexia, very little LBM compared to most people as a result, and I STILL wasn't eating enough while I was lifting.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what's going on here.
ETA:i am 4'11 and weigh 117 which i know i can go lower due to my height. i am now my goal and still hate the way i look. i should have started strength training from the beginning but i didnt know of its benefits until recently. is it too late for me to become leaner? i have a belly pooch that i loathe!!
From 2/26. HAVE you been doing Stronglifts for three and a half months...?0 -
squat- 50 lbs 5x5
deadflift-100 lbs 5x5
row- 20 lbs 5x5
press- 40 5x5
and please do not say go heavier because this is still heavy for me
You've been doing stronglifts for 3.5 months and you are still at the recommended starting weight for the beginning of the program? Where did you start from originally in your lifts? Light weights for low reps won't cause the change you want in your body unless your LBM was EXTREMELY low to begin with. The awesome thing about 5x5 is the ability to increase your lifts each workout. And if you are eating enough calories, since you stated you only have a slight deficit, ou should definitely be increasing.0 -
One thing I'd like to add - I did New Rules for Women for awhile and squatting a similarly pathetic amount of weight three months in. But I was progressing.
The thing is, when you start out with a pitiful amount of muscle, it can take you a year or more to squat body weight. And nobody ever tells you that.
So, if the OP is PROGRESSING and working to FAILURE - everything could be ok, just taking longer. If there's no progression...totally different story.
I dont' think the issue is the numbers- everyone is willing to admit they look low- but due to the lack of history there could be a reasonble issue at hand.
things we know/acknowledge:
> Heavy is relative-
> Average female after 3 months should be further along
> we do not have her history
> we have a statement that says pretty much "please don't ask me to get heavier- because this is heavy"
so it seems there isn't a progression or a clear understanding of what's going on for her- I suspect she isn't truly following the program and is not willing to get uncomfortable- women are very pron to not pushing to failure- they tend to quit way sooner than they should.
If she truly hates lifting- she shouldn't do it.
I she only hates it because she's not progressing- she needs to fix the diet- and or fix the programing.
IF she prefers body weight- you can do progressive loading via body weight- it just takes a lot of work- I'd say it almost takes MORE work and dedication than BB training.
But I'm not sure said OP is willing to put in that kind of work. Which is fine- not everyone wants to train that hard- some poeple are okay just getting a quick workout in and calling it a day.0 -
You aren't been true to yourself and trying hard enough, you need to put more weight on the bar, simple as. Please don't say it's heavy for you because my 11 year old daughter (and I'm not exaggerating) could move that weight. Hope you take this advice the right way, lifting can be a very empowering thing but you MUST lift with HEART!0
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I hate lifting too, it's not fun for me. I still strength train because I know it's important, I just do yoga or pilates instead,
is pilates considered strength training?
I also HATE lifting...it's so boring to me to do the same repetitive motion over and over again. I prefer body weight exercises like pilates also. I started p90x3 about a month ago and like that wayyy better. It can also be argued that exercises like that are better for you because the movements target a variety of muscles versus just one with traditional weight
^^^Thank goodness! I thought I was the only one on this entire website that hates lifting! (I cannot remember ONE post where someone actually wrote that they hate to lift!) I lift because I like the results but I would rather do cardio until my eyes bleed than do even one rep!
As for Pilates, it's supposed to build flexibility and strength in the major muscle groups (legs, abs, arms, hips and back).0 -
You aren't been true to yourself and trying hard enough, you need to put more weight on the bar, simple as. Please don't say it's heavy for you because my 11 year old daughter (and I'm not exaggerating) could move that weight. Hope you take this advice the right way, lifting can be a very empowering thing but you MUST lift with HEART!
There's no way you can say this. You have no idea what the OP's abilities and impediments may be. Your advice, should she take it, may lead to an injury.0 -
I also HATE lifting...it's so boring to me to do the same repetitive motion over and over again. I prefer body weight exercises like pilates also. I started p90x3 about a month ago and like that wayyy better. It can also be argued that exercises like that are better for you because the movements target a variety of muscles versus just one with traditional weight
^^^Thank goodness! I thought I was the only one on this entire website that hates lifting! (I cannot remember ONE post where someone actually wrote that they hate to lift!) I lift because I like the results but I would rather do cardio until my eyes bleed than do even one rep!
As for Pilates, it's supposed to build flexibility and strength in the major muscle groups (legs, abs, arms, hips and back).
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my friend prefers cardio/running
but she also still lifts- I think if she truly got on a lifting program with real progression- I think she would change her mind- but she works in her basement with videos and a home gym machine. it's just not the same.
But- some people really just don't like that feeling they get from lifting. It's okay- I think what you experience and what this woman experience are not the same to be honest though.0 -
I found the same. I had to combine strength training with cardio.
I put down the weights.
I went to Jillian Michaels DVD's, kickboxing and Curves with the Classes. (our gym as Resolution, Killer core, Armed and ready, Zumba, Jillian Michaels and a resolution class at lunch at curves)[ I tried curves before they had these classes and DID NOT LIKE IT. Now I love it]
I found that I have more definition, I lost way more weight and I didn't need anything special. The Jillian Michaels DVD are using your own body weight with no weights to help your shred your body and carve your muscles.
You will find something that YOU love to do and then you will be motivated to keep at it.
I tried CrossFit, but didn't find that it was for me.
I tried Kickboxing and am totally addicted! Just remember that strength doesn't have to come from lifting weights - you can get fantastic results with just your own body weight. Find some thing YOU like to do and give it all you got!0 -
If you don't like it, find something that you enjoy doing! Weight lifting was never my forte, I always felt lost.
HIIT workouts work best for me. Just enough strength training and cardio to keep my mind busy. Bodyweight exercises are just as effective and it takes less time!
I agree. I do Jillian Michaels No More Trouble Zones with 3kg weights and enjoy it!0 -
I hate lifting too, it's not fun for me. I still strength train because I know it's important, I just do yoga or pilates instead,
is pilates considered strength training?
I also HATE lifting...it's so boring to me to do the same repetitive motion over and over again. I prefer body weight exercises like pilates also. I started p90x3 about a month ago and like that wayyy better. It can also be argued that exercises like that are better for you because the movements target a variety of muscles versus just one with traditional weight
^^^Thank goodness! I thought I was the only one on this entire website that hates lifting! (I cannot remember ONE post where someone actually wrote that they hate to lift!) I lift because I like the results but I would rather do cardio until my eyes bleed than do even one rep!
As for Pilates, it's supposed to build flexibility and strength in the major muscle groups (legs, abs, arms, hips and back).
I did pilates before I started lifting and while I agree it's great for flexibility and I did gain some strength with it, I didn't get any results in terms of aesthetics until I started lifting.
If OP really hates lifting when doing it properly, then she should do something else. But it sounds like she isn't following the program and is frustrated with her lack of results, so I still think she should try tweaking some things before she switches.0 -
I hate lifting too
I also HATE lifting
I thought I was the only one on this entire website that hates lifting!
Hate is a particularly strong word for something that one chooses to do, and perhaps suggests something more fundamental in the relationship with training.
From a personal perspective I find lifting incredibly boring, and given that it's very "stop/ start" as one faffs around with plates I don't get into the same mental frame of mind that I do with a good run or ride. the other aspect for me is that it's an indoor activity, and I prefer my phys to be outside where I can get some fresh air.
Notwithstanding all of that some form of resistance training is essential to help sports performance and mitigate injury risk when doing something more interesting.
Regardless of all that I'd ask what the objectives are. without a hook to attach progress to it's meaningless. Is the originator doing Stronglifts to get botter at Stronglifts, to improve general conditioning and strength, for aesthetic purposes or as a complement to a primary sport?
Personally I do some resistance training to help improve my running and cycling performance. With that in ind it becomes a question of what resistance programme helps to support my objectives and that I can fit into my lifestyle. Essentially my personal circumstances push me towards something that has the absolute minimum amount of kit, as I travel for work and my priority for kit has to be for running.
The solution that works for me is bodyweight resistance, there are several programmes around. Yoga is good for flexibility but not really for strength training, although increasing strength allows for more advanced asanas to be adopted. Pilates has a lot of benefit for core stability and strength but it's not gong to hammer the surrounding build in the way that a more focussed resistance programme will.
Main message, if one doesn't enjoy lifting then find some other way to do resistance training that fits in with ones interests and lifestyle.0 -
Strong lifts isn't for loosing weight, it's for increasing that amount of weight you can lift. Once you start to increase, and add more Muscle, then that muscle will start to burn the calories.ive been doing stonglifts for 3 1/2 months now and eating a slight deficit since i dont have much more to lose, and so far i hate lifting, and to top it off, i took a b4 and after pic AnD took measurments and nothing has changed! all i want is a flat belly :sad:0 -
You aren't been true to yourself and trying hard enough, you need to put more weight on the bar, simple as. Please don't say it's heavy for you because my 11 year old daughter (and I'm not exaggerating) could move that weight. Hope you take this advice the right way, lifting can be a very empowering thing but you MUST lift with HEART!
There's no way you can say this. You have no idea what the OP's abilities and impediments may be. Your advice, should she take it, may lead to an injury.
So there's a very vague chance she has something genuinely holding her back, so for that reason lets *****foot around her rather than tell her the hard truths she needs to hear. I've seen it time and again in the gym, the bulk of people don't push, they simply spin the wheels and don't change and I bet you a pound to a penny she's one of them.0 -
You can have a beautiful body without lifting weights. I suppose it may depend on your age and genetics. I had a beautiful body as a young dancer. I danced intensively (to a degree most people would never do recreationally), did pilates and yoga exercises as warm up and for physiotherapy purposes. I got lots of cardio, biked, and was very active. I used some resistance training, but only as part of physiotherapy, so not heavy (this was also back in the early 90's). I didn't start heavier resistance training until I was in my twenties, and that was mostly things like glute kickbacks. And then I got tons of attention for my body still (7 months after having my two babies).
I started weights in my mid thirties and I think the main benefit is that it is very effective for preventing muscle loss and pumping up muscles back to their youthful state as we tend to decrease in activity over time and eat more. And also prevents muscle loss when you are eating at a deficit.
Lifting weights is incredibly affective. I am pleased with the results and with what is possible. But, everyone has different physique goals in terms of what they want to work towards.0 -
You aren't been true to yourself and trying hard enough, you need to put more weight on the bar, simple as. Please don't say it's heavy for you because my 11 year old daughter (and I'm not exaggerating) could move that weight. Hope you take this advice the right way, lifting can be a very empowering thing but you MUST lift with HEART!
There's no way you can say this. You have no idea what the OP's abilities and impediments may be. Your advice, should she take it, may lead to an injury.
So there's a very vague chance she has something genuinely holding her back, so for that reason lets *****foot around her rather than tell her the hard truths she needs to hear. I've seen it time and again in the gym, the bulk of people don't push, they simply spin the wheels and don't change and I bet you a pound to a penny she's one of them.
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When I started out, I only startred with 5 pounds and did that for 2 weeks just to make sure my form was in check. I must have read the program wrong and didn't know I was supposed to add5 lbss to every workout. I am 115 pounds and am 5'0 for those who asked. I eat between 1300-1700 calories. My goal is to just have a flat belly since the rest of me is nice and firm, and I have a pooch belly. I know many say they have a pooch and its really nothing but mine is really " fatty". I wish I had a pick to show my body, but I don't at the momment. What can I do to get rid of this problem?0
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When I started out, I only startred with 5 pounds and did that for 2 weeks just to make sure my form was in check. I must have read the program wrong and didn't know I was supposed to add5 lbss to every workout. I am 115 pounds and am 5'0 for those who asked. I eat between 1300-1700 calories. My goal is to just have a flat belly since the rest of me is nice and firm, and I have a pooch belly. I know many say they have a pooch and its really nothing but mine is really " fatty". I wish I had a pick to show my body, but I don't at the momment. What can I do to get rid of this problem?
Do you hate lifting because of the lack of progress or for itself? If the former, reread the program and follow it correctly. If the latter, find a different type of progressive loading strength training and do that.
But the progressive loading (adding weight/difficult over time) is the part that yields results.
How much protein are you getting? I'd aim for 95 grams for you.
What has your weight done over the past 4 weeks?0 -
I hate it for both reasons I guess but if I gotten results, id be happy and continue with it. I don't have to much protein so that could be it. In the past month I've lost. 1.5 pounds0
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I hate it for both reasons I guess but if I gotten results, id be happy and continue with it. I don't have to much protein so that could be it. In the past month I've lost. 1.5 pounds
Okay then your deficit seems pretty good. Increase your protein and try actually following the program. You will not get results if you don't progressively add weight to the bar.0 -
When I started out, I only startred with 5 pounds and did that for 2 weeks just to make sure my form was in check. I must have read the program wrong and didn't know I was supposed to add5 lbss to every workout. I am 115 pounds and am 5'0 for those who asked. I eat between 1300-1700 calories. My goal is to just have a flat belly since the rest of me is nice and firm, and I have a pooch belly. I know many say they have a pooch and its really nothing but mine is really " fatty". I wish I had a pick to show my body, but I don't at the momment. What can I do to get rid of this problem?
Did you read the summary or the actual free pdf? I suggest reading/re-reading how to do SL 5x5 and follow the routine.0 -
Something's missing here. I feel like the meat's for the cat.
OP, what's your medical history, eating history, etc. etc.? With no pictures, no stats (other than CURRENT lifts...would like to know what you started out with), I feel like there's a key piece of information missing in all of this.
I did Stronglifts 5x5; I progressed very slowly. It took me MAYBE the same amount of time as you to get OHP to even be the bar. Key? I have a history of anorexia, very little LBM compared to most people as a result, and I STILL wasn't eating enough while I was lifting.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what's going on here.
ETA:i am 4'11 and weigh 117 which i know i can go lower due to my height. i am now my goal and still hate the way i look. i should have started strength training from the beginning but i didnt know of its benefits until recently. is it too late for me to become leaner? i have a belly pooch that i loathe!!
From 2/26. HAVE you been doing Stronglifts for three and a half months...?
Quoting this because I think you may have hit on the problem.0 -
Something's missing here. I feel like the meat's for the cat.
OP, what's your medical history, eating history, etc. etc.? With no pictures, no stats (other than CURRENT lifts...would like to know what you started out with), I feel like there's a key piece of information missing in all of this.
I did Stronglifts 5x5; I progressed very slowly. It took me MAYBE the same amount of time as you to get OHP to even be the bar. Key? I have a history of anorexia, very little LBM compared to most people as a result, and I STILL wasn't eating enough while I was lifting.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what's going on here.
ETA:i am 4'11 and weigh 117 which i know i can go lower due to my height. i am now my goal and still hate the way i look. i should have started strength training from the beginning but i didnt know of its benefits until recently. is it too late for me to become leaner? i have a belly pooch that i loathe!!
From 2/26. HAVE you been doing Stronglifts for three and a half months...?
Quoting this because I think you may have hit on the problem.
Not only is she not sure how long she's been doing StrongLifts, she doesn't seem to remember how tall she is.When I started out, I only startred with 5 pounds and did that for 2 weeks just to make sure my form was in check. I must have read the program wrong and didn't know I was supposed to add5 lbss to every workout. I am 115 pounds and am 5'0 for those who asked.0 -
How carefully are you measuring your food? Food scales for solids and measuring cups/spoons for liquids are pretty essential if you are running a small deficit since cumulative errors can easily add up and get rid of your deficit.
Also, what calorie guide are you using? Are you using MFP and the eating back exercise calories. If so, the overestimation of calorie burn would also get rid of a small deficit very quickly.0 -
How carefully are you measuring your food? Food scales for solids and measuring cups/spoons for liquids are pretty essential if you are running a small deficit since cumulative errors can easily add up and get rid of your deficit.
Also, what calorie guide are you using? Are you using MFP and the eating back exercise calories. If so, the overestimation of calorie burn would also get rid of a small deficit very quickly.
She's lost 1.5 lbs over the past month so it seems like her deficit is on track (it could be a tiny bit bigger, but not much considering her weight) and it's the fact that she hasn't been doing the program correctly that is the issue.0 -
what are you eating?0
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Stronglifts at a deficit sounds miserable. Maybe try eating +10% calories (as in maintenance+10%) on lifting days and -20% on rest days?
http://rippedbody.jp/2011/10/08/leangains-intermittent-fasting-guide-how-to-do-it-by-yourself/
He recommends Starting Strength (basically the same thing) not be done at a deficit, but you can at least use the site to figure out the basic idea of calorie cycling. I honestly can't see any other way to effectively do Stronglifts and maintain a net calorie deficit.
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Stronglifts at a deficit sounds miserable. Maybe try eating +10% calories (as in maintenance+10%) on lifting days and -20% on rest days?
http://rippedbody.jp/2011/10/08/leangains-intermittent-fasting-guide-how-to-do-it-by-yourself/
He recommends Starting Strength (basically the same thing) not be done at a deficit, but you can at least use the site to figure out the basic idea of calorie cycling. I honestly can't see any other way to effectively do Stronglifts and maintain a net calorie deficit.
Good luck!
There shouldn't be any problem doing stronglifts on a deficit. It's not going to give you any mass gains, beyond newbie gains, but you can still gain strength. And more importantly you can maintain your muscle while you lose fat, which is the main reason lifting at a deficit is encouraged here.0 -
As others have mentioned, I'm wondering if you are really pushing yourself enough. Lifting is not always going to be comfortable, and while you shouldn't be in any serious pain (injury-type pain), some amount of muscle burn, etc. is par for the course. Working through a little bit of discomfort is necessary to progress.
You also aren't going to spot reduce - it just simply doesn't exist. If you are wishing for lifting to fix your stomach alone, I think you may end up frustrated or disappointed.0 -
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