Because thigh gaps: clarification

and to add some minute validity to your comment, I do not accept lesbianism as a valid sexual orientation, nor will i ever.But thats not what we were talking about here now was it?

Wait, wait. Hold the phone. Just out of morbid curiosity, how can you "not accept" a valid sexual orientation that you yourself are not capable of having?

mkay. My position stands as do my statements.
and to the cat lady above, I didnt delete that, the Mods did when they sent me an email about it.
Need I make it clearer that I never meant to imply rape, or beter yet will ever have the need to force anyone to do anything, again?

i have my reasons

Well, that is some solid logic you have there.

The only "Logical" explanation I have for all of this.

The mother of those beautiful kids in the background left him for a female (this explain the non acceptance)

Which he attempted to change from liking women (which he totally failed and will not try "again")

JMO

Although false, and not on topic with the thread, you are entitled to your opinion(more like an assumption). and I accept it.

they are right it is a orientation a choice, but it is not natural they cannot procreate.

In nature, that may be one reason that animals turn to homosexuality. As a means of population control. So no, I don't think you can call it unnatural from a position of procreation.

Romans 1:25-27)
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

I don't see anything in there about procreation.

Genesis 1:28

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

If God truly meant for every human to procreate, then there wouldn't be women in this world with fertility issues.

Seriously, I'm as Christian as the next person. But Jesus taught us to love in the name of God, not hate. If homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God, then it will be God who judges for it. Jesus said let he who have NO sin cast the first stone. God hasn't given anyone on this earth the right to judge others with the exception of those who hold the title of judge.

Please stop using the words of the bible to justify your right to look down on others and feel superior to them and their lifestyles. Because that, my friend, is NOT biblical!

"Hope, faith and love.... but the greatest of these is love" I can't provide a specific scripture as I'm quoting from memory... but there ya go, there's bible verses out there that refute the bible verses you're using to attempt to bash people.

and to add some minute validity to your comment, I do not accept lesbianism as a valid sexual orientation, nor will i ever.But thats not what we were talking about here now was it?

Wait, wait. Hold the phone. Just out of morbid curiosity, how can you "not accept" a valid sexual orientation that you yourself are not capable of having?

mkay. My position stands as do my statements.
and to the cat lady above, I didnt delete that, the Mods did when they sent me an email about it.
Need I make it clearer that I never meant to imply rape, or beter yet will ever have the need to force anyone to do anything, again?

i have my reasons

Well, that is some solid logic you have there.

The only "Logical" explanation I have for all of this.

The mother of those beautiful kids in the background left him for a female (this explain the non acceptance)

Which he attempted to change from liking women (which he totally failed and will not try "again")

JMO

Although false, and not on topic with the thread, you are entitled to your opinion(more like an assumption). and I accept it.

they are right it is a orientation a choice, but it is not natural they cannot procreate.

In nature, that may be one reason that animals turn to homosexuality. As a means of population control. So no, I don't think you can call it unnatural from a position of procreation.

Romans 1:25-27)
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

I don't see anything in there about procreation.

Genesis 1:28

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

If God truly meant for every human to procreate, then there wouldn't be women in this world with fertility issues.

Seriously, I'm as Christian as the next person. But Jesus taught us to love in the name of God, not hate. If homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God, then it will be God who judges for it. Jesus said let he who have NO sin cast the first stone. God hasn't given anyone on this earth the right to judge others with the exception of those who hold the title of judge.

Please stop using the words of the bible to justify your right to look down on others and feel superior to them and their lifestyles. Because that, my friend, is NOT biblical!

Luke 17:3

So watch what you do. "If your brother sins, tell him he is wrong. Then if he turns away from his sins, forgive him.


Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Well I am telling you that you are sinning by judging people and being a hypocrite. Are you going to stop now so that I can forgive you?

Probably not...

I cant judge you only god can, but what I can tell you is that is his words not mine.

Yes, they are His words, but you are misinterpretting them to justify your behavior towards others. That is the problem that I have. The verse in Genesis had absolutely NOTHING to do with homosexuality. But you still used it to YOUR purposes. That's a sin too, you know.

and to add some minute validity to your comment, I do not accept lesbianism as a valid sexual orientation, nor will i ever.But thats not what we were talking about here now was it?

Wait, wait. Hold the phone. Just out of morbid curiosity, how can you "not accept" a valid sexual orientation that you yourself are not capable of having?

mkay. My position stands as do my statements.
and to the cat lady above, I didnt delete that, the Mods did when they sent me an email about it.
Need I make it clearer that I never meant to imply rape, or beter yet will ever have the need to force anyone to do anything, again?

i have my reasons

Well, that is some solid logic you have there.

The only "Logical" explanation I have for all of this.

The mother of those beautiful kids in the background left him for a female (this explain the non acceptance)

Which he attempted to change from liking women (which he totally failed and will not try "again")

JMO

Although false, and not on topic with the thread, you are entitled to your opinion(more like an assumption). and I accept it.

they are right it is a orientation a choice, but it is not natural they cannot procreate.

In nature, that may be one reason that animals turn to homosexuality. As a means of population control. So no, I don't think you can call it unnatural from a position of procreation.

Romans 1:25-27)
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

I don't see anything in there about procreation.

Genesis 1:28

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

If God truly meant for every human to procreate, then there wouldn't be women in this world with fertility issues.

Seriously, I'm as Christian as the next person. But Jesus taught us to love in the name of God, not hate. If homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God, then it will be God who judges for it. Jesus said let he who have NO sin cast the first stone. God hasn't given anyone on this earth the right to judge others with the exception of those who hold the title of judge.

Please stop using the words of the bible to justify your right to look down on others and feel superior to them and their lifestyles. Because that, my friend, is NOT biblical!

Luke 17:3

So watch what you do. "If your brother sins, tell him he is wrong. Then if he turns away from his sins, forgive him.


Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Well I am telling you that you are sinning by judging people and being a hypocrite. Are you going to stop now so that I can forgive you?

Probably not...

I cant judge you only god can, but what I can tell you is that is his words not mine.

Yes, they are His words, but you are misinterpretting them to justify your behavior towards others. That is the problem that I have. The verse in Genesis had absolutely NOTHING to do with homosexuality. But you still used it to YOUR purposes. That's a sin too, you know.

I guess after Jesus forgave her of her sin he was being a hypocrite

Then Jesus told the woman, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more” key word sin no more not to continue her wrong behavior.

and to add some minute validity to your comment, I do not accept lesbianism as a valid sexual orientation, nor will i ever.But thats not what we were talking about here now was it?

Wait, wait. Hold the phone. Just out of morbid curiosity, how can you "not accept" a valid sexual orientation that you yourself are not capable of having?

mkay. My position stands as do my statements.
and to the cat lady above, I didnt delete that, the Mods did when they sent me an email about it.
Need I make it clearer that I never meant to imply rape, or beter yet will ever have the need to force anyone to do anything, again?

i have my reasons

Well, that is some solid logic you have there.

The only "Logical" explanation I have for all of this.

The mother of those beautiful kids in the background left him for a female (this explain the non acceptance)

Which he attempted to change from liking women (which he totally failed and will not try "again")

JMO

Although false, and not on topic with the thread, you are entitled to your opinion(more like an assumption). and I accept it.

they are right it is a orientation a choice, but it is not natural they cannot procreate.

In nature, that may be one reason that animals turn to homosexuality. As a means of population control. So no, I don't think you can call it unnatural from a position of procreation.

Romans 1:25-27)
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

I don't see anything in there about procreation.

Genesis 1:28

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

If God truly meant for every human to procreate, then there wouldn't be women in this world with fertility issues.

Seriously, I'm as Christian as the next person. But Jesus taught us to love in the name of God, not hate. If homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God, then it will be God who judges for it. Jesus said let he who have NO sin cast the first stone. God hasn't given anyone on this earth the right to judge others with the exception of those who hold the title of judge.

Please stop using the words of the bible to justify your right to look down on others and feel superior to them and their lifestyles. Because that, my friend, is NOT biblical!

Luke 17:3

So watch what you do. "If your brother sins, tell him he is wrong. Then if he turns away from his sins, forgive him.


Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Well I am telling you that you are sinning by judging people and being a hypocrite. Are you going to stop now so that I can forgive you?

Probably not...

I cant judge you only god can, but what I can tell you is that is his words not mine.

Yes, they are His words, but you are misinterpretting them to justify your behavior towards others. That is the problem that I have. The verse in Genesis had absolutely NOTHING to do with homosexuality. But you still used it to YOUR purposes. That's a sin too, you know.

I guess after Jesus forgave her of her sin he was being a hypocrite

Then Jesus told the woman, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more” key word sin no more not to continue her wrong behavior.

Jesus had NO SIN in the FIRST PLACE!

It was HIS right, and HIS right alone to judge her...

You haven't forgiven anyone... you have condemned people... and the right to judge them is NOT YOURS!

and to add some minute validity to your comment, I do not accept lesbianism as a valid sexual orientation, nor will i ever.But thats not what we were talking about here now was it?

Wait, wait. Hold the phone. Just out of morbid curiosity, how can you "not accept" a valid sexual orientation that you yourself are not capable of having?

mkay. My position stands as do my statements.
and to the cat lady above, I didnt delete that, the Mods did when they sent me an email about it.
Need I make it clearer that I never meant to imply rape, or beter yet will ever have the need to force anyone to do anything, again?

i have my reasons

Well, that is some solid logic you have there.

The only "Logical" explanation I have for all of this.

The mother of those beautiful kids in the background left him for a female (this explain the non acceptance)

Which he attempted to change from liking women (which he totally failed and will not try "again")

JMO

Although false, and not on topic with the thread, you are entitled to your opinion(more like an assumption). and I accept it.

they are right it is a orientation a choice, but it is not natural they cannot procreate.

In nature, that may be one reason that animals turn to homosexuality. As a means of population control. So no, I don't think you can call it unnatural from a position of procreation.

Romans 1:25-27)
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

I don't see anything in there about procreation.

Genesis 1:28

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

If God truly meant for every human to procreate, then there wouldn't be women in this world with fertility issues.

Seriously, I'm as Christian as the next person. But Jesus taught us to love in the name of God, not hate. If homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God, then it will be God who judges for it. Jesus said let he who have NO sin cast the first stone. God hasn't given anyone on this earth the right to judge others with the exception of those who hold the title of judge.

Please stop using the words of the bible to justify your right to look down on others and feel superior to them and their lifestyles. Because that, my friend, is NOT biblical!

Luke 17:3

So watch what you do. "If your brother sins, tell him he is wrong. Then if he turns away from his sins, forgive him.


Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Well I am telling you that you are sinning by judging people and being a hypocrite. Are you going to stop now so that I can forgive you?

Probably not...

I cant judge you only god can, but what I can tell you is that is his words not mine.

Yes, they are His words, but you are misinterpretting them to justify your behavior towards others. That is the problem that I have. The verse in Genesis had absolutely NOTHING to do with homosexuality. But you still used it to YOUR purposes. That's a sin too, you know.

I guess after Jesus forgave her of her sin he was being a hypocrite

Then Jesus told the woman, “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more” key word sin no more not to continue her wrong behavior.

Jesus had NO SIN in the FIRST PLACE!

It was HIS right, and HIS right alone to judge her...

You haven't forgiven anyone... you have condemned people... and the right to judge them is NOT YOURS!

2 Timothy 3:16
16 Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),

The closer your thighs are together the closer you are to becoming a mermaid

Dont judge someone because they sin differently than you do.

That is entirely up to her. She is currently being raised by her mother, who is part of an extremely religious(messianic) family that does not see homosexuality/lesbianism as a way of life.
I am not religious at all, one of those things where her beliefs are being imprented on them. Shes not even allowed to wear earrings.

You see your daughter, though. Believe it or not, fathers and their opinions are very important to little girls, and it can shape who they are. All I'm suggesting is that these opinions that you have shared here are not representative of a positive male role model in a girl's life.

I know I've particpated with the others in razzing you a bit. I get that maybe you didn't communicate your views very well, and haven't really meant harm, but I would suggest you think carefully about the things you say before you say them. Especially around your daughter. Best of luck! No hard feelings, I hope.

None taken, its the internet. that was the first time I saw them since their mother and I split. I can not see them because in her culture I am lving in sin having seperated from their mother. Her family and her insist i can only see them at church. Obviously until a judge proves otherwise.

Free benevolent advice: If you are presently in a custody battle, or any other ensnarement that requires you to go to court, I do not advise posting ANYTHING controversial on the internet. Nor do I advise posting pictures of or information about your relationship, or your children. The internet is NOT private, your posts CAN be held against you in a court of law.

Use your brain.

1.its okay.
2. they are very well off, and I can not afford the legal battle at the moment..
3. Having said that, they are religious, they are well off. Judge will rule in their favor 100%,