My Experience with Raw Vegan 80/10/10 Challenge Month
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Sorry. I stopped reading at "The China Study or documentaries like Morgan Spurlock’s “Super Size Me” is enough for me to know ..."
I am astounded that people continue to draw causation conclusions from either of those works of art.
Since you had "whey protein and Hershey's chocolate syrup" for breakfast can't say I am surprised either...
That whey protein is a killer, isn't it? And did you notice the quantity of Hershey's chocolate-flavored syrup? Think the dose is sufficiently high enough to diminish my health in any way? Or do you even consider dose in your determination?
One of my favorite parts about MFP are the "righteous" eaters with closed food diaries.
Second to that are those with an open diary, but an excuse for their "transgressions".
Food diary still closed? That's too bad. I'm sure there is a lot we could learn from it.
For example, I bet it's mostly potatoes.0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?0
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Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
What about sweet potatoes?0 -
sorry if this has already been mentioned but i was too lazy to read through the 7 pages but maybe try raw till 4 approach to 80/10/10? then you get your fruit and your warm bowl of chill in the evening!0
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Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
What about sweet potatoes?0 -
I'd like to see an 80 year old here on MFP that eats either meat, dairy or eggs and is as healthy as T. Colin Campbell the author of "The China Study.
T. Colin Campbell is on MFP?!? That's awesome! I have some questions for him.
(Oh, he isn't? I guess I'll make a similarly flawed assertion then...)
I'd like to see an 80 year old here on MFP that eats this raw vegan 80/10/10 diet and is as healthy as my 91 year old grandmother.
did you not see those fruitarians that ran a marathon every day in australia?0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
What about sweet potatoes?
Can you have vodka?0 -
lol this had me dying! corn as a bookmark!0
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Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?
So I could do freedom fries if I baked them?0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?
So I could do freedom fries if I baked them?
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Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?
So I could do freedom fries if I baked them?
it would depend on how much oil you sprayed on them, even baking fries tends to add some fat.0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?
So I could do freedom fries if I baked them?
it would depend on how much oil you sprayed on them, even baking fries tends to add some fat.
Hmmmmm, how about potato pancakes then?0 -
Are they allowed to
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Are they allowed to
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I see what you did there.
I strongly approve! :laugh:0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
What about sweet potatoes?
Can you have vodka?
Of course you can........he so Absolut!! Oh wait.......he said, Absolutely. My bad!!0 -
Can you have mashed potatoes on 80/10/10?
How about boiled potatoes?
How about freedom fries?
Tater tots?0 -
What about Tater Salad?
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Food diary still closed? That's too bad. I'm sure there is a lot we could learn from it.
For example, I bet it's mostly potatoes.
No potatoes, I eat miles like you eat cookies.0 -
Food diary still closed? That's too bad. I'm sure there is a lot we could learn from it.
For example, I bet it's mostly potatoes.
No potatoes, I eat miles like you eat cookies.
One or two miles every other day or so except when you're bulking and then it's three or five miles?
And here I thought you were an elite athlete.
LOL.
But seriously, your food diary is *still* closed...which makes me wonder, what are you afraid of? I have no reason to hide my food diary, despite people like you taking potshots based on your own distorted food biases. I wonder what you're hiding. Could it be that your talk is more impressive than your walk? Perhaps you're a recent convert to this One True Way™ of eating and you don't want people to see your past history. No, that can't be it...you started here in January 2014.
*shrug*
I guess we'll never know.
ETA: I just realized that this isn't the same member who was picking apart my food diary despite him having a closed food diary, but a *different* member...who also has a closed food diary. Why is it that those who preach the loudest about their superior way of eating seem most likely to have a closed food diary???0 -
Food diary still closed? That's too bad. I'm sure there is a lot we could learn from it.
For example, I bet it's mostly potatoes.
No potatoes, I eat miles like you eat cookies.
good grief. eye roll.0 -
what about spud-u-like with tuna mayo and baked beans?0
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I love reading about weak people posturing.0
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Hello everyone, this is a great thread! Right now I'm debating between following a raw/vegan diet or following a low carb high protein diet called (see www.Bearware.info). My goal is weight loss & improved energy. Ideally, I would like to be able to call this way of eating a healthy lifestyle, not a diet.
For over a year I was gluten and dairy free, I ate protein, veggies & fruits and had soy. My energy was decent which was important due to all the training I was doing, I needed it for my swims, biking and running! Because I have a horrible sweet tooth I also ate processed foods containing lots of junk during this time. Still, I didn't have a weigt problem then, which was only a year & a half ago.
However, a number of months ago I 'fell off the wagon', & began eating too much of the wrong foods, items that my body was not conditioned to eating. To trump a newly bad diet, I stopped training. Ouch! That was a big mistake.
Although I'm getting back on track now, exercising again and my diet is improving, my BUT! Is that I need to get the unhealthy weight off fast! I'm a 31 female, 5'6 and a smaller frame.
In your experience, what type of diet has worked best for you in terms of weight loss & is this diet a way of life for you? Low carb high protein vs. raw/vegan?
For all you lovers of raw check out dr. Fuhrmans book, eat to live. He advocates a plant based diet. Amazing doctor!
Hi...
I been a raw/vegan for almost 2 years and I honestly can say that I would not go back to being a meat eater, I'm not saying that if I'm invited to a family gathering I won't eat it, I mean eating it 1 or 2 a year is not going affect your body as if you ate meat every day.
But I can honestly believe that a raw/vegan lifestyle is a great approach because not only are you providing nutrients to your body but also your feeding it elements that the body recognize/breakdown.
Its a lifestyle, not a "diet" that can be maintained for life.
I see it this way, a "diet" if you get off it, you will gain the weight back and more, because its not something you can keep up forever.
A lifestyle is what it says, its a way of living, something that can be done forever, and won't have to worry about coming off because its a lifestyle, not a "diet" that you do for 6 months and that's it.
Like I mention before I been a raw/vegan for 2 years and I can say it has helped me lose weight and maintain my weight when I don't work out, because again its a lifestyle not a "diet".
I hope this helps.0 -
Food diary still closed? That's too bad. I'm sure there is a lot we could learn from it.
For example, I bet it's mostly potatoes.
No potatoes, I eat miles like you eat cookies.
One or two miles every other day or so except when you're bulking and then it's three or five miles?
And here I thought you were an elite athlete.
LOL.
But seriously, your food diary is *still* closed...which makes me wonder, what are you afraid of? I have no reason to hide my food diary, despite people like you taking potshots based on your own distorted food biases. I wonder what you're hiding. Could it be that your talk is more impressive than your walk? Perhaps you're a recent convert to this One True Way™ of eating and you don't want people to see your past history. No, that can't be it...you started here in January 2014.
*shrug*
I guess we'll never know.
ETA: I just realized that this isn't the same member who was picking apart my food diary despite him having a closed food diary, but a *different* member...who also has a closed food diary. Why is it that those who preach the loudest about their superior way of eating seem most likely to have a closed food diary???
Elite athlete? Nah, I'm just like you, nothing. Pass the dbol & whey.
And that is what they call winning.
Jof, you have won the internet.
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Did somebody say freedom fries?0
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And that is what they call winning.
Jof, you have won the internet.
I've been working on this flawless victory for a couple of years now. I certainly didn't expect it to happen on this thread.
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