Bringing Dog to Gym
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You're right about some people are allergic to dogs
Thanks for the supportive comments
NoxDineen, I'm really really really sorry to hear that you were raped
How long is the feelings of fear and helplessness going to last? I want them to go away, IDK what to do, I have to deal with this ****e on my own and I don't know how to feel normal again, it's now 4 am in Taiwan and I'm not tired but I"m going to try to sleep....I blame myself, if I was thinner Kazimierz would not have stopped being my friend...I would have gone to London in December and he would have protected me because he is physically strong....it's all my fault...he would tell me all this stuff like he enjoys talking to me and when am I coming to London but at the end of the day he decided to cut off contact with me because of my weight...the day that the guy was at my house I called him over and over and he ignored me...he didn't know what had happened but he ignored me even though I never would call over and over like that...and he ignored me for 1.5 weeks and finally I called him from a UK number and he picked up right away and when I said why are you ignoring me, he hung up.....I feel so alone and scared all the time and the feeling is not going away and I don't even remember what the heck the therapist said and I just wish I had been good enough for Kazik, imagine how much safer I would feel right now if I had just been thinner and didn't disgust him
why are you carrying on and mooning over some guy who is a d!ckhead?
Tell me you're kidding.....
While I agree that this guy was a d!ckhead to her, the reason she is "carrying on and mooning" is because she currently feels victimized and is trying to her hardest to find reason why. The reasoning is incorrect, yes, but that is still part of the process that she will go through to heal.
No, I'm not kidding.
What happened IS NOT HER FAULT!!!
And the guy is a complete *kitten* to tell her he dropped her because of her weight. From her picture, it looks like she's normal sized.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But basically telling her to stop feeling something that she needs to feel in order to move on isn't going to help. She needs to come to grips with these feelings and realize that she is not in the wrong and never was. That takes time, tears, patience, and in her case some therapy.
I happen to disagree. She can feel whatever she wants, but she's not helping herself by blaming herself instead of who should be blamed. And also recognize that Kaziwhatever isn't all that and a bag of chips like she thinks he is.
Normal guys don't drop a normal weight person because they're too fat. Normal guys help when a friend calls in distress. He ain't normal, or worth pining for.0 -
You're right about some people are allergic to dogs
Thanks for the supportive comments
NoxDineen, I'm really really really sorry to hear that you were raped
How long is the feelings of fear and helplessness going to last? I want them to go away, IDK what to do, I have to deal with this ****e on my own and I don't know how to feel normal again, it's now 4 am in Taiwan and I'm not tired but I"m going to try to sleep....I blame myself, if I was thinner Kazimierz would not have stopped being my friend...I would have gone to London in December and he would have protected me because he is physically strong....it's all my fault...he would tell me all this stuff like he enjoys talking to me and when am I coming to London but at the end of the day he decided to cut off contact with me because of my weight...the day that the guy was at my house I called him over and over and he ignored me...he didn't know what had happened but he ignored me even though I never would call over and over like that...and he ignored me for 1.5 weeks and finally I called him from a UK number and he picked up right away and when I said why are you ignoring me, he hung up.....I feel so alone and scared all the time and the feeling is not going away and I don't even remember what the heck the therapist said and I just wish I had been good enough for Kazik, imagine how much safer I would feel right now if I had just been thinner and didn't disgust him
why are you carrying on and mooning over some guy who is a d!ckhead?
Tell me you're kidding.....
While I agree that this guy was a d!ckhead to her, the reason she is "carrying on and mooning" is because she currently feels victimized and is trying to her hardest to find reason why. The reasoning is incorrect, yes, but that is still part of the process that she will go through to heal.
No, I'm not kidding.
What happened IS NOT HER FAULT!!!
And the guy is a complete *kitten* to tell her he dropped her because of her weight. From her picture, it looks like she's normal sized.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But basically telling her to stop feeling something that she needs to feel in order to move on isn't going to help. She needs to come to grips with these feelings and realize that she is not in the wrong and never was. That takes time, tears, patience, and in her case some therapy.
I happen to disagree. She can feel whatever she wants, but she's not helping herself by blaming herself instead of who should be blamed. And also recognize that Kaziwhatever isn't all that and a bag of chips like she thinks he is.
Normal guys don't drop a normal weight person because they're too fat. Normal guys help when a friend calls in distress. He ain't normal, or worth pining for.
I am not disagreeing with you that she shouldn't blame herself. Nor am I disagreeing that this guy is a terrible character. Right now, she feels like a victim. That doesn't mean she is, but she is feeling it. She is grasping at anything that will help her make sense of this. However, telling her to NOT feel something that she is feeling, isn't going to help her get past it.0 -
You would need to see a therapist and discuss the possibility of being prescribed a service dog. Most public places do not allow dogs due to allergies and health/safety of others.
With or without a service dog, you should go see a doctor/therapist about what happened.0 -
It's hard for me not to think about Kazik because in my eyes he is the closest I was to feeling safe. Sure, I might meet a nice strong person in the future, but I want to feel safe NOW, and I feel like I would have been feeling safe now had I been thinner. You're right though, it was uncool of him to abandon me. We used to have good conversations and I haven't acted in a rude way towards him or anything so it sucks that he couldn't let my weight go. I do feel quite sad about him. He didn't come across as a bad guy at all so I blame myself. Some days I even think, "Wow, I must suck really bad for him to leave me alone to deal with this" Some days I think I deserved it
I have seen a therapist twice, maybe I'll ask her if she can write something stating that my dog is for emotional reasons. I hope she wouldn't laugh at me if I ask her about this0 -
I would definitely do what others have suggested and register your dog as an emotional support animal. Apparently it's quite easy to do, you just have to pay a small fee, and once you do it you can't be denied entry to places and landlords can't refuse to rent to you because of your dog either.
OP, I just read back and see that you aren't in the states. I'm not sure how the laws work where you are. I'm going to leave this here for others, though.
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I would caution people against this method. In some states, it's a felony if your dog isn't 1) properly trained and 2) you have a Dr.'s approval/prescription. In some states, emotional therapy animals don't "count" as legitimate need for a service dog. Please, look into your local and state laws. If you have approval by your Dr. for a dog, and your dog is trained, you do NOT need to pay a fee to these scam companies.0 -
your poor dog. please dont bring him to the gym if you are going to leave him outside for anyone to abuse him.
Or for someone to steal him. That's what happened recently in my neighborhood right outside a large grocery store.0 -
It's hard for me not to think about Kazik because in my eyes he is the closest I was to feeling safe. Sure, I might meet a nice strong person in the future, but I want to feel safe NOW, and I feel like I would have been feeling safe now had I been thinner. You're right though, it was uncool of him to abandon me. We used to have good conversations and I haven't acted in a rude way towards him or anything so it sucks that he couldn't let my weight go. I do feel quite sad about him. He didn't come across as a bad guy at all so I blame myself. Some days I even think, "Wow, I must suck really bad for him to leave me alone to deal with this" Some days I think I deserved it
I have seen a therapist twice, maybe I'll ask her if she can write something stating that my dog is for emotional reasons. I hope she wouldn't laugh at me if I ask her about this
Have you talked to your therapist about Kazik? It sucks that there are horrible men like him in this world, but they do exist. You need to figure out how to get through feeling as though this is your fault. You are equating your weight with the assault. That is not the case. It may have happened if Kazik was there, it may not have. You will never have those answers. I understand wanting and needing to feel safe, but he has left you with a pretty low blow to your self esteem which is just another piece of yourself that you need to get back in order to over come everything.0 -
You're right about some people are allergic to dogs
Thanks for the supportive comments
NoxDineen, I'm really really really sorry to hear that you were raped
How long is the feelings of fear and helplessness going to last? I want them to go away, IDK what to do, I have to deal with this ****e on my own and I don't know how to feel normal again, it's now 4 am in Taiwan and I'm not tired but I"m going to try to sleep....I blame myself, if I was thinner Kazimierz would not have stopped being my friend...I would have gone to London in December and he would have protected me because he is physically strong....it's all my fault...he would tell me all this stuff like he enjoys talking to me and when am I coming to London but at the end of the day he decided to cut off contact with me because of my weight...the day that the guy was at my house I called him over and over and he ignored me...he didn't know what had happened but he ignored me even though I never would call over and over like that...and he ignored me for 1.5 weeks and finally I called him from a UK number and he picked up right away and when I said why are you ignoring me, he hung up.....I feel so alone and scared all the time and the feeling is not going away and I don't even remember what the heck the therapist said and I just wish I had been good enough for Kazik, imagine how much safer I would feel right now if I had just been thinner and didn't disgust him
why are you carrying on and mooning over some guy who is a d!ckhead?
Tell me you're kidding.....
While I agree that this guy was a d!ckhead to her, the reason she is "carrying on and mooning" is because she currently feels victimized and is trying to her hardest to find reason why. The reasoning is incorrect, yes, but that is still part of the process that she will go through to heal.
No, I'm not kidding.
What happened IS NOT HER FAULT!!!
And the guy is a complete *kitten* to tell her he dropped her because of her weight. From her picture, it looks like she's normal sized.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But basically telling her to stop feeling something that she needs to feel in order to move on isn't going to help. She needs to come to grips with these feelings and realize that she is not in the wrong and never was. That takes time, tears, patience, and in her case some therapy.
I don't think that is what I got from the post... No one said to stop feeling feelings. Coming here and discussing feelings about this subject is unfortunately not an appropriate place. A professional's office is though.0 -
I would definitely do what others have suggested and register your dog as an emotional support animal. Apparently it's quite easy to do, you just have to pay a small fee, and once you do it you can't be denied entry to places and landlords can't refuse to rent to you because of your dog either.
OP, I just read back and see that you aren't in the states. I'm not sure how the laws work where you are. I'm going to leave this here for others, though.
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I would caution people against this method. In some states, it's a felony if your dog isn't 1) properly trained and 2) you have a Dr.'s approval/prescription. In some states, emotional therapy animals don't "count" as legitimate need for a service dog. Please, look into your local and state laws. If you have approval by your Dr. for a dog, and your dog is trained, you do NOT need to pay a fee to these scam companies.
Agreed. I have only seen people who have PTSD get service animals.. Beyond that and physical/developmental disabilities her chances are slim in getting a service animal.0 -
Wow thank you for the supportive comments (I've had 2 sessions with a therapist)....I like that I could register it was an emotional support dog. So, how does this usually work? Do you go through a government agency or your vet? I live in Taiwan, but I'd like to get an idea...of how it generally works.
I thought Les Mils body pump was exclusive to Goodlife gyms.
Is there one in Taiwan?0 -
Are you telling me not to talk about it? If so tell me more directly like "stop talking about this" because I'm not good at sarcasm or irony I did mention Kazik to my therapist, I forget what she said, it went by really fast. I feel like I would feel safer now if Kazik were still friends with me because he is physically strong. That's why I started losing weight, so that he would talk to me again and then I would feel safe. Sigh it's 5:30 am and it's getting light outside, won't be able to do anything all day because of weird sleeping hours. Sigh.
Les Mills Body Pump, Body Combat, Body Attack, and Body Jam and the cycling thing are available at World Gym in Taiwan and may be available at other gyms here, I don't know.0 -
I think what people are saying is to continue to talk about it more appropriate places e.g. a therapist's office or a support forum for survivors. You'll meet many other people who are strong if you allow yourself to heal and find ways of addressing your fear vs using your experience as a crutch to bend the rules.0
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Wow thank you for the supportive comments (I've had 2 sessions with a therapist)....I like that I could register it was an emotional support dog. So, how does this usually work? Do you go through a government agency or your vet? I live in Taiwan, but I'd like to get an idea...of how it generally works.
I thought Les Mils body pump was exclusive to Goodlife gyms.
Is there one in Taiwan?
Goodlife Fitness is just in Canada, Les Mills is a world wide program of classes. Goodlife is simply the only gym in Canada that supports/markets its classes.0 -
Got 3 hours of sleep finally at 8 am So I contacted my therapist and she is going to write an emotional support animal letter for my dog. I called a guy from Forumosa who works at World Gym in Taipei to ask if World Gym can accept it. I go to the World Gym in Taichung but the staff there are not very friendly. I am waiting for him to call me back because he wasn't there when I called him. I have to run an errand at 1:30 pm so if he doesn't call me back by then, whatever. And I have to go look at the pool also and ask how much it costs. Sucks doing stuff on a low amount of sleep.0
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I am so sorry to hear about your assault. I hope you can find a gym that will let you have a dog there. The laws vary from state to state. In our state, we are having a big problem with "unofficial therapy dogs" going into stores, restaurants, etc. and not being properly potty trained, resulting in messes on the floor and in some cases getting into fights with other unofficial therapy dogs. One thing about dogs is that some people, like myself, are somewhat allergic to dogs. If I am around dogs with certain kinds of fur, my asthma act up. That would be really hard for me if there was a dog at the gym and it caused an asthma flare up.0
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I think what people are saying is to continue to talk about it more appropriate places e.g. a therapist's office or a support forum for survivors. You'll meet many other people who are strong if you allow yourself to heal and find ways of addressing your fear vs using your experience as a crutch to bend the rules.
THIS THIS THIS!!!!!!0 -
I was also raped when I was 22. I didn't have a dog, but I was terrified Everytime I had to go out in public. What helped was time and facing my fear and getting stronger. I too joined a gym and the physical empowerment helped me feel safer. Like I could defend myself if necessary.
Each time you do go out and nothing happens it reaffirms a small piece of your feeling of safety. Eventually you have enough of those times that you don't feel like something will happen Everytime you go out. Keep,with it, dog or not, scared or not. Hold your head high and take a deep breath and take on the day feeling strong. Or, pretend you feel strong and eventually you will.0 -
I'm really sorry to hear about what happened to you.
http://www.pandys.org = free, anonymous, online peer support for survivors of sexual violence through a forum and chat room, along with lots of articles and information.
I just want you to know that, as a survivor myself, it gets better and you will be okay. It takes time and work, and you will always carry it with you in some form, but things will get brighter. Please take care of yourself. And this is the most important thing to remember, in my opinion: there is only ONE person responsible for what happened - the rapist.0 -
get the dog registered as a therapy dog
Therapy dogs aren't protected by US law as service animals areCan I do that for a beagle?
Yes, you can register ANY breed as a therapy dog or a service dog, provided they can pass the required training.I know a girl who has her dog registered as a service animal. They cannot refuse service or entry to any business or establishment if the dog can pass the registry tests.
+1I think what people are saying is to continue to talk about it more appropriate places e.g. a therapist's office or a support forum for survivors. You'll meet many other people who are strong if you allow yourself to heal and find ways of addressing your fear vs using your experience as a crutch to bend the rules.
Wow, did you really just say that? Neither service dogs nor therapy dogs are "crutches" and your indication they they are is insulting not only to the millions of people who utilize them, but also to every persona and organization that advocates for their use. Crawl back into whatever hole you came from and take your ignorance with you.
You have no idea how ridiculous your post sounds, do you? People who don't have PTSD, physical or developmental disabilities should not have service dogs. I've read all her posts carefully to point where I stopped bothering. She expects her gym to allow an animal into the gym where there are potentially dangers and where people may have allergies. I have animals and would NEVER bring them to the gym - neither outside or indoors. I can't believe people are advocating for the neglect of animals so she can "feel" safe. That's sounds like a crutch to me. Its OK now to have feelings of hopelessness and fear but at some point its not only good but important for OP to be the survivor, not a victim.0 -
I was also raped when I was 22. I didn't have a dog, but I was terrified Everytime I had to go out in public. What helped was time and facing my fear and getting stronger. I too joined a gym and the physical empowerment helped me feel safer. Like I could defend myself if necessary
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get the dog registered as a therapy dog
Therapy dogs aren't protected by US law as service animals areCan I do that for a beagle?
Yes, you can register ANY breed as a therapy dog or a service dog, provided they can pass the required training.I know a girl who has her dog registered as a service animal. They cannot refuse service or entry to any business or establishment if the dog can pass the registry tests.
+1I think what people are saying is to continue to talk about it more appropriate places e.g. a therapist's office or a support forum for survivors. You'll meet many other people who are strong if you allow yourself to heal and find ways of addressing your fear vs using your experience as a crutch to bend the rules.
Wow, did you really just say that? Neither service dogs nor therapy dogs are "crutches" and your indication they they are is insulting not only to the millions of people who utilize them, but also to every persona and organization that advocates for their use. Crawl back into whatever hole you came from and take your ignorance with you.
You have no idea how ridiculous your post sounds, do you? People who don't have PTSD, physical or developmental disabilities should not have service dogs. I've read all her posts carefully to point where I stopped bothering. She expects her gym to allow an animal into the gym where there are potentially dangers and where people may have allergies. I have animals and would NEVER bring them to the gym - neither outside or indoors. I can't believe people are advocating for the neglect of animals so she can "feel" safe. That's sounds like a crutch to me. Its OK now to have feelings of hopelessness and fear but at some point its not only good but important for OP to be the survivor, not a victim.
This.0 -
Can I do that for a beagle?
You can do it for any dog. It isn't a "protection" dog, it's a dog to help you feel calm and relaxed. You could register a chihuahua or a great dane0 -
get the dog registered as a therapy dog
Therapy dogs aren't protected by US law as service animals areCan I do that for a beagle?
Yes, you can register ANY breed as a therapy dog or a service dog, provided they can pass the required training.I know a girl who has her dog registered as a service animal. They cannot refuse service or entry to any business or establishment if the dog can pass the registry tests.
+1I think what people are saying is to continue to talk about it more appropriate places e.g. a therapist's office or a support forum for survivors. You'll meet many other people who are strong if you allow yourself to heal and find ways of addressing your fear vs using your experience as a crutch to bend the rules.
Wow, did you really just say that? Neither service dogs nor therapy dogs are "crutches" and your indication they they are is insulting not only to the millions of people who utilize them, but also to every persona and organization that advocates for their use. Crawl back into whatever hole you came from and take your ignorance with you.
You have no idea how ridiculous your post sounds, do you? People who don't have PTSD, physical or developmental disabilities should not have service dogs. I've read all her posts carefully to point where I stopped bothering. She expects her gym to allow an animal into the gym where there are potentially dangers and where people may have allergies. I have animals and would NEVER bring them to the gym - neither outside or indoors. I can't believe people are advocating for the neglect of animals so she can "feel" safe. That's sounds like a crutch to me. Its OK now to have feelings of hopelessness and fear but at some point its not only good but important for OP to be the survivor, not a victim.
She probably does have PTSD right now, but I still don't 'think it's a reason to take the dog to the gym.0 -
your poor dog. please dont bring him to the gym if you are going to leave him outside for anyone to abuse him.
Or for someone to steal him. That's what happened recently in my neighborhood right outside a large grocery store.
She's talking about bringing the dog IN with her - that is the whole point.
Reading comprehension, people.0 -
get the dog registered as a therapy dog
Therapy dogs aren't protected by US law as service animals areCan I do that for a beagle?
Yes, you can register ANY breed as a therapy dog or a service dog, provided they can pass the required training.I know a girl who has her dog registered as a service animal. They cannot refuse service or entry to any business or establishment if the dog can pass the registry tests.
+1I think what people are saying is to continue to talk about it more appropriate places e.g. a therapist's office or a support forum for survivors. You'll meet many other people who are strong if you allow yourself to heal and find ways of addressing your fear vs using your experience as a crutch to bend the rules.
Wow, did you really just say that? Neither service dogs nor therapy dogs are "crutches" and your indication they they are is insulting not only to the millions of people who utilize them, but also to every persona and organization that advocates for their use. Crawl back into whatever hole you came from and take your ignorance with you.
You have no idea how ridiculous your post sounds, do you? People who don't have PTSD, physical or developmental disabilities should not have service dogs. I've read all her posts carefully to point where I stopped bothering. She expects her gym to allow an animal into the gym where there are potentially dangers and where people may have allergies. I have animals and would NEVER bring them to the gym - neither outside or indoors. I can't believe people are advocating for the neglect of animals so she can "feel" safe. That's sounds like a crutch to me. Its OK now to have feelings of hopelessness and fear but at some point its not only good but important for OP to be the survivor, not a victim.
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your poor dog. please dont bring him to the gym if you are going to leave him outside for anyone to abuse him.
Or for someone to steal him. That's what happened recently in my neighborhood right outside a large grocery store.
She's talking about bringing the dog IN with her - that is the whole point.
Reading comprehension, people.
She also said that when she brought it to the gym they made her tie it up outside and that the gym employees apparently took the dog and tied it up across the parking lot or something like that. The OP was upset because she thought her dog got stolen and the gym employees were laughing at her.
Edited; Here it is:Last time one of the staff tied my dog really far as a joke and I asked them and the people at the front desk were laughing at me and they said it must have run away. I left the gym and was ready to file a report about the dog being gone but I went back into the gym to use the bathroom and the guy finally told me he tied it at the back of the building Sigh. They don't understand.
So yeah. Sounds like she IS leaving it outside.0 -
You also have to think about the dog - it's not fair to him to be put in a position where strangers can fool with him or even steal him.
I would think you should be able to find a staff member to walk you to your car, and to find someone else walking in and get out of your car when you see them. I don't know how you would deal in walking to or from the car to your home, though. I guess we are assuming you have a car as well. There has to be ways you can arrange this, though, but be fair to the dog also.0 -
You also have to think about the dog - it's not fair to him to be put in a position where strangers can fool with him or even steal him.
I would think you should be able to find a staff member to walk you to your car, and to find someone else walking in and get out of your car when you see them. I don't know how you would deal in walking to or from the car to your home, though. I guess we are assuming you have a car as well. There has to be ways you can arrange this, though, but be fair to the dog also.
Or someone trips over a leash and gets hurt
Or dog gets freaked and fear bites someone
Or someone drops a weight and crushes dogs foot/tail/face
Or someone gets started by dog and drops weight on oneself
Or someone is allergic to the dog
Or someone is really afraid of dogs
Or a million other safety things that could happen.
-As far as it being a service animal, she isn't in the US (even though I am pretty sure it is a troll) so laws are going to be different.
-Even if she was in the US and told people it was a service dog. They can still call her on it and she would have to prove it was. Now, they can get into some legal hot water if they call you on it and the animal actually is....but since the gym already knows the dog and the situation..even if the laws were the same as the US..they will be very quick to call her out...if they are even legally obligated to do that before they toss them both out.
-Your dog may make you feel safe and you may swear that your precious puppy friend would defend you if something happened. Please note the reality that if you ever were attacked, the first thing that dog, 99.99% of dogs would do is just bark and run away unless they are absolutely cornered and have no other choice. Sorry to break your false sense of security but it is what it is. Most breeds even known for their protective nature would run away unless they have been specifically trained.
-If, in fact, you actually aren't a troll then I think it might be in your best interest to leave you dog at home and not further alienate other gym users but instead introduce and become familiar with the gyms security guard and staff...and your therapist. That would be if you weren't a troll.0
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