Sugar and processed food good or bad?

Moderation, moderation, moderation.... the key to just about everything in life.

I totally agree with this, but if everyone could handle moderation of sugar or fatty foods, would anyone be overweight? So, based on that, I personally do believe I can label some foods as "good" or "bad" (for me, and for others), because most people have a trigger food that they cannot just have a small amount of without overindulging.:ohwell:

Sounds like more of a psychological problem, than the food itself - right?

Absolutely...food is very emotional for many people...

My point is this....if eating something is only ok in small amounts, then I would label it as bad if its something that triggers me to eat large amounts (for example..not everyone can eat just one little slice of pizza, or 10 potato chips, then walk away satisfied).

So foods which are caloric, but dense in nutrients are bad?

Moderation, moderation, moderation.... the key to just about everything in life.

I totally agree with this, but if everyone could handle moderation of sugar or fatty foods, would anyone be overweight? So, based on that, I personally do believe I can label some foods as "good" or "bad" (for me, and for others), because most people have a trigger food that they cannot just have a small amount of without overindulging.:ohwell:

Sounds like more of a psychological problem, than the food itself - right?

It makes no sense to ignore the psychological aspects of diet and weight loss. The brain is a part of the body too.

It's a personal problem if you lack willpower and the ability to control portions.

I can overeat on steak, chicken, fish etc. all of which are all "nutrient dense" foods and still end up becoming overweight. So they are now labeled bad foods by that same school of thought?

Wait, what? What school of thought?

Do you mean trigger foods? If these are trigger foods that you find difficult to eat without overeating, then yes, they would be bad. For you. As you say, it's a personal problem. Many psychological issues are personal.

Emotions aside....eating a whole pizza, or eating half a bag of chips in one sitting, IS bad, because these are not "healthy' choices

I disagree. I'm allowed to make unhealthy choices for myself if I want to. What I can't do is do that and then expect that choice to be consequence-free.

Emotions aside....eating a whole pizza, or eating half a bag of chips in one sitting, IS bad, because these are not "healthy' choices

I disagree. I'm allowed to make unhealthy choices for myself if I want to. What I can't do is do that and then expect that choice to be consequence-free.

Are we talking about 'bad' being 'bad' for our health? Because, if so, then yes...they are bad for our health. If 'bad' just being a socially constructed 'bad' thing to do, then no. Totally the choice of the person.

Emotions aside....eating a whole pizza, or eating half a bag of chips in one sitting, IS bad, because these are not "healthy' choices

I disagree. I'm allowed to make unhealthy choices for myself if I want to. What I can't do is do that and then expect that choice to be consequence-free.

Your'e right, but most of the time bad choices = bad consequences......so my point was that (personally), I do consider some foods "good" or "bad" for various reasons.

Wait, what? What school of thought?

Do you mean trigger foods? If these are trigger foods that you find difficult to eat without overeating, then yes, they would be bad. For you. As you say, it's a personal problem. Many psychological issues are personal.

::shrug:: I don't let food control me - So for me, no there is no such thing as good or bad. I don't have an issue with trigger foods.

I can't speak on behalf of others. But I think it's silly to label a food as "bad" simply because you can't control your own habits.

The less processed foods in your diet, the healthier you will be. Eat your food as close to the way God made it as possible. When food is cut up, nutrients at the surface deteriorate. The more it's processed, the more nutrients you lose, making foods that have been pulverized (like flour and sugar) pretty dead, especially if it's been sitting in a warehouse, a truck and then a store for who knows how long before you actually eat it. To counteract this, companies replace the nutrients that were lost with synthetic versions that your body does not know what to do with because they're not real food.

When food is cut up, nutrients at the surface deteriorate.

No. Just no.

They aren't inherently bad but they can become bad if they hang out with the wrong crowd

The less processed foods in your diet, the healthier you will be. Eat your food as close to the way God made it as possible. When food is cut up, nutrients at the surface deteriorate. The more it's processed, the more nutrients you lose, making foods that have been pulverized (like flour and sugar) pretty dead, especially if it's been sitting in a warehouse, a truck and then a store for who knows how long before you actually eat it. To counteract this, companies replace the nutrients that were lost with synthetic versions that your body does not know what to do with because they're not real food.

Sometimes our bodies don't know what to do with "real food".
Like my best friend, for example.
She is trying out "clean eating" and ate I don't know how many raw vegetables yesterday.

Last night, I had a serving of chicken and broccoli Chinese take-out. Followed it up with 1/2 a Ben & Jerry's ice cream bar.

My friend spent the night on the toilet with volcanic diarrhea.
Me? Nope. Not one rumble in my tummy.

But hey, whatever floats your ark.