Low Carb or No Carb … pros and cons of either?

vvancol_rose
vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
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I'm really trying to turn my diet around and I know the basics stay away from processed foods and sugars, candy,soda but I really want to know if cutting out carbs all together would harm or help me or I'm looking for any diet tips anyone may have that has worked for them thanks!!
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  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Why hate on the carbs? They're just food, like all the rest. It makes sent to maybe cut down on the carbs which have little to no nutritional value, like sugar, but whole grains, beans, etc. are very healthy.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    I'm really trying to turn my diet around and I know the basics stay away from processed foods and sugars, candy,soda but I really want to know if cutting out carbs all together would harm or help me or I'm looking for any diet tips anyone may have that has worked for them thanks!!

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  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    Not necessarily Hating :) I've just heard that people have gotten some good results by going low or no carb and just looking to see if it would be beneficial for me or not.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    I'm really trying to turn my diet around and I know the basics stay away from processed foods and sugars, candy,soda but I really want to know if cutting out carbs all together would harm or help me or I'm looking for any diet tips anyone may have that has worked for them thanks!!

    Clearly you don't.
  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    was there a point to this post? or where you just looking to waste my time….
  • PurpleCupcakes01
    PurpleCupcakes01 Posts: 141
    I'm really trying to turn my diet around and I know the basics stay away from processed foods and sugars, candy,soda but I really want to know if cutting out carbs all together would harm or help me or I'm looking for any diet tips anyone may have that has worked for them thanks!!

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    Lol
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    was there a point to this post? or where you just looking to waste my time….

    The point is you clearly don't know the first thing about proper nutrition even though claim to "know the basics". Not at all...cutting out foods or food groups from your diet is how you fail in the long run.
  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    Well I'm on here asking for help if you have some knowledge you would like to share please enlighten me. I'm all ears
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Eat the foods you like. Eat at a deficit. Lose weight.
    /thread
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Well I'm on here asking for help if you have some knowledge you would like to share please enlighten me. I'm all ears
    Eat the foods you like. Eat at a deficit. Lose weight.
    /thread

    This little light of mine... Imma let it shine.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    1. Set a calorie goal for weight loss

    2. Set up proper macronutrient goals (0.82g per lb of body weight for protein. 0.4g per lb of body weight for fat. Remaining calories go to carbs)

    3. Eat WHATEVER YOU WANT as long as you don't exceed your calorie goal, and you at least match or exceed your goals for protein and fat.

    THE END
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    All those big fat Asians and their carby white rice carbs!!!
  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    so Instead of ridiculing me with pointless a meme why not share some info that may be beneficial? I'm on this forum because I'm trying to learn if you have some advice you would like to share I'm ready to listen. I don't have the time for condescending remarks, comments or memes
  • asciident
    asciident Posts: 166 Member
    Fruit and veg have carbs. So "no carb" is not a practical diet plan.

    Set a reasonable calorie deficit. Eat what you like in reasonable amounts. Try to hit your macros. You do not need to avoid carbs unless you have a specific medical condition.

    Read through this:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1175494-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    so Instead of ridiculing me with pointless a meme why not share some info that may be beneficial? I'm on this forum because I'm trying to learn if you have some advice you would like to share I'm ready to listen. I don't have the time for condescending remarks, comments or memes

    Scroll Up. It has been provided multiple times now.

    Eat a calorie deficit, lose weight. No need to eliminate whole groups of macronutrients.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    Sexy pants link! Don't over complicate it! Calorie deficit for weight loss, macro and micro balance for overall health and well being. ;)
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    so Instead of ridiculing me with pointless a meme why not share some info that may be beneficial? I'm on this forum because I'm trying to learn if you have some advice you would like to share I'm ready to listen. I don't have the time for condescending remarks, comments or memes

    The instructions have already been provided. Also...settle down
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
    1. Set a calorie goal for weight loss

    2. Set up proper macronutrient goals (0.82g per lb of body weight for protein. 0.4g per lb of body weight for fat. Remaining calories go to carbs)

    3. Eat WHATEVER YOU WANT as long as you don't exceed your calorie goal, and you at least match or exceed your goals for protein and fat.

    THE END

    This is excellent advice and not condescending at all.

    In addition to the sexy pants link here are two more good reads. You also need a food scale and start to weigh all of your solid food and measure all of your liquids, and learn how to log everything.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide
  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it everyone hahaha probably should have mentioned maybe I meant the simple carbs I should be cutting out all together right? ( white bread, white rice,pasta etc.)
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it everyone hahaha probably should have mentioned maybe I meant the simple carbs I should be cutting out all together right? ( white bread, white rice,pasta etc.)

    NO NO NO NO a thousand times NO!
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Not really, though. I mean, the whole point isn't just to lose weight, but to do so in a sustainable way so that you're not fat again in a year or five or ten. Do you plan to ALWAYS cut sugar and other simple carbs? Your whole life? Or would you rather learn to make peace with sugar and eat sugary treats in reasonable moderation within your caloric budget?
  • stephe1987
    stephe1987 Posts: 406 Member
    Low carb is fine. Some carbs have a lot of calories so it's kind of good to stay away from certain carbs (i.e. white bread) to be able to get proper nutrition and still stay under your calorie goal. You don't want to overdo it on carbs and not be able to meet your other goals without going over your calorie goal and losing your deficit.

    No carb is a bad idea and a lot of people got sick when they tried those diets. I think a huge red flag was when they said they couldn't eat an apple because the apple has carbs. People who didn't get sick still lost weight, but it is super easy to gain it back quickly (and more!) when you end the no carb diet. Basically, no carb is not a sustainable diet. You need to choose a diet you can stick to even when you hit your goal weight and go into body sculpting or maintenance mode. Weight loss is important but maintaining a healthy lifestyle is even more important.
  • _KitKat_
    _KitKat_ Posts: 1,066 Member
    All those big fat Asians and their carby white rice carbs!!!

    ....and noodles and dumplings, egg rolls, wontons and pot stickers....Yum, I wonder why Asians have such a slim population ( must be hard to follow adkins on their diet) and diabetes isn't a crisis in the community. Now tomorrow will be blown to hell, because I will sleep thinking about all these wonderful options.

    OP stop demonizing any food unless you have a medical condition. Deprivation of pleasure is not a noble trait and one humans fail at more often than succeed. Moderation is key and also weight loss is basic math.....calories consumed - calories burned = either a surplus, deficient or a zero is maintenance. Nutrition is a separate subject to weight loss.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it everyone hahaha probably should have mentioned maybe I meant the simple carbs I should be cutting out all together right? ( white bread, white rice,pasta etc.)

    http://evidencemag.com/why-calories-count/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8&list=WL36825C9108E5F7AF

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-the-dirt-on-clean-eating-written-by-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon.html

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
  • flatlndr
    flatlndr Posts: 713 Member
    You're going to get a lot of "calories in, calories burned" types of replies.

    Personally, I cut out foods with either refined carbs or added sugar, as I found I was hungry soon after eating these foods. I do, however, still get about 50% of my calories from carbs, coming from whole grains, fruits, vegs & beans. The difference for me is the higher fiber content of these foods, helping me to stay full longer, so that I don't get hungry ... thereby staying at/under my calorie goals.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    I've lost 53 lbs eating bagels, rice, ice cream, pizza, fast food, food...more food. I didn't eliminate anything. Did I make conscious decisions to pick more nutrient dense foods to meet my nutritional needs? Sure. Did I sometimes eat less of the tasty foods I enjoy? Sure. But I taught myself moderation and enjoyed myself along the way. Set myself up for after I reached my goal.

    If you can live the rest of your life happily eliminating something from your diet. Go for it. But I have no intention of giving up foods I love forever. I'd rather balance them into my day and live happily ever with my Talenti pint ;P
  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    Not really, though. I mean, the whole point isn't just to lose weight, but to do so in a sustainable way so that you're not fat again in a year or five or ten. Do you plan to ALWAYS cut sugar? Your whole life? Or would you rather learn to make peace with sugar and eat sugary treats in reasonable moderation within your caloric budget?

    I do have sweets here and there but I wouldn't die if I cut them out all together. It's always been the salty snacks that have gotten me potato chips, dips those sorts of things which I've cut back on tremendously so I think I genuinely could cut out processed sugary sweets all together
  • msbunnie68
    msbunnie68 Posts: 1,894 Member
    Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it everyone hahaha probably should have mentioned maybe I meant the simple carbs I should be cutting out all together right? ( white bread, white rice,pasta etc.)

    whaaaat....no carbs...low carbs...

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    In all seriousness though, calorie counting/mfp etc isn't a case of just excluding foods until your weight has magically disappeared because what happens then? Have you set in place an eating and exercise regime that is so restrictive that you cannot continue this and carry on in maintenance of your weight? Are you saying goodbye to carbs forever?

    Try to set your eating patterns to suit your lifestyle and circumstances. Eat in a way that is sustainable after weightloss. Maintenance is still calorie counting but with a few more calories to spend so your food intake should be similiar sorts of foods but with varying amounts.

    A better way would be to educate yourself on what you can eat of certain foods and how much you should eat of certain foods - learn about portion sizes and don't look for the quick food fixes that leads to yo-yoing once you stop the diet of the day that you set for yourself.
  • vvancol_rose
    vvancol_rose Posts: 30 Member
    I've lost 53 lbs eating bagels, rice, ice cream, pizza, fast food, food...more food. I didn't eliminate anything. Did I make conscious decisions to pick more nutrient dense foods to meet my nutritional needs? Sure. Did I sometimes eat less of the tasty foods I enjoy? Sure. But I taught myself moderation and enjoyed myself along the way. Set myself up for after I reached my goal.

    If you can live the rest of your life happily eliminating something from your diet. Go for it. But I have no intention of giving up foods I love forever. I'd rather balance them into my day and live happily ever with my Talenti pint ;P

    It sounds like you've got it all figured out! lol I just need to develop better self discipline in terms of the portion sizes when eating those types of foods
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    I've lost 53 lbs eating bagels, rice, ice cream, pizza, fast food, food...more food. I didn't eliminate anything. Did I make conscious decisions to pick more nutrient dense foods to meet my nutritional needs? Sure. Did I sometimes eat less of the tasty foods I enjoy? Sure. But I taught myself moderation and enjoyed myself along the way. Set myself up for after I reached my goal.

    If you can live the rest of your life happily eliminating something from your diet. Go for it. But I have no intention of giving up foods I love forever. I'd rather balance them into my day and live happily ever with my Talenti pint ;P

    It sounds like you've got it all figured out! lol I just need to develop better self discipline in terms of the portion sizes when eating those types of foods

    food scale.

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