You people are sooooo mean!

Foul.

Hair in my food.

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

Please, don't forget that sitting in a hot tub is her idea of cardio and then she linked to a website that sells hot tubs, which talked about sitting in a hot tub to promote cardiovascular health as proof. Really, that was the golden turd right there.

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

So pretty much when our body metabolizes animal protein the protein creates an acid. Our bodies combat this acid by releasing calcium from our bones. Over time this weakens the bones. This is just one of the many health side effects to consumption of meat. Instead of trying to use my own words against me, research a little on your own and then use your own intellect. Earlier I was just trying to find something quick and only glanced at it when I posted. Since I actually got my information over time and from many sources, it's a little harder to prove unless I saved every link, movie, and book.

It burns more calories. hehe

Lol

LEAVE BIBLEMAN ALONE!

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

So pretty much when our body metabolizes animal protein the protein creates an acid. Our bodies combat this acid by releasing calcium from our bones. Over time this weakens the bones. This is just one of the many health side effects to consumption of meat. Instead of trying to use my own words against me, research a little on your own and then use your own intellect. Earlier I was just trying to find something quick and only glanced at it when I posted. Since I actually got my information over time and from many sources, it's a little harder to prove unless I saved every link, movie, and book.

What is the biochemical difference between "animal protein" and protein from any other source? Are they not oligomerized peptides of the same amino acids?

Protein does not "create an acid" proteins are comprised of amino acids which are zwitterionic containing both an amino group that is positively charged under neutral pH and a carboxyl group that is negatively charged under neutral pH. This means that amino acids are pH neutral. Now there are some amino acids that are acidic based on their side-chain but an equal amount that are basic. The overall effect is that proteins, polypeptides of amino acids, are pH neutral...they are not acidic. The blood is pH buffered by bicarbonate and no amount of protein is going to turn your blood acidic. This is utter nonsense.

If this is true why wouldn't mamallian carnavors which subside solely on animal protein and have the same biochemical digestive metabolism as us have issues with calcium depletion in their bones?

How does a zwitterionic molecule disrupt a bicarbonate buffered solution?

Please, don't forget that sitting in a hot tub is her idea of cardio and then she linked to a website that sells hot tubs, which talked about sitting in a hot tub to promote cardiovascular health as proof. Really, that was the golden turd right there.

Wait...have these threads been deleted already? I would love to read them. You know, for the science...

The link contained links and medical citations. Another fault of a quick search to appease you all. Either way it states you can find the study on the mayo clinic web site. Any bother to go look? And I said "light cardio" as a hot tub will burn calories (more than just sitting there but less than any other cardio workout) through it's effects on our cardiovascular system. Again, you know how to use google.

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

That is from 1996.

You know what is more recent? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

You should be familiar with that. But here's the summary, one more time: Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.

I bolded the part that specifically references the '96 study.

Please, don't forget that sitting in a hot tub is her idea of cardio and then she linked to a website that sells hot tubs, which talked about sitting in a hot tub to promote cardiovascular health as proof. Really, that was the golden turd right there.

Wait...have these threads been deleted already? I would love to read them. You know, for the science...

The link contained links and medical citations. Another fault of a quick search to appease you all. Either way it states you can find the study on the mayo clinic web site. Any bother to go look? And I said "light cardio" as a hot tub will burn calories (more than just sitting there but less than any other cardio workout) through it's effects on our cardiovascular system. Again, you know how to use google.

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

That is from 1996.

You know what is more recent? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

You should be familiar with that. But here's the summary, one more time: Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.

I bolded the part that specifically references the '96 study.

By all means then, attack me for not keeping up with this massive amount of information out there where people can easily get confused.

Again, Making me look dumb does not make you look smart. Just makes you look like an as$hole

Not attacking you for being confused, attacking you for propagating and disseminating mininformation in a public forum before bothering to get your facts straight by investigating the publically available research. If you don't know enough about a subject, don't talk about it publically or if you do expect people to chime in with any critisisms.

So pretty much when our body metabolizes animal protein the protein creates an acid. Our bodies combat this acid by releasing calcium from our bones. Over time this weakens the bones. This is just one of the many health side effects to consumption of meat. Instead of trying to use my own words against me, research a little on your own and then use your own intellect. Earlier I was just trying to find something quick and only glanced at it when I posted. Since I actually got my information over time and from many sources, it's a little harder to prove unless I saved every link, movie, and book.

What is the biochemical difference between "animal protein" and protein from any other source? Are they not oligomerized peptides of the same amino acids?

Protein does not "create an acid" proteins are comprised of amino acids which are zwitterionic containing both an amino group that is positively charged under neutral pH and a carboxyl group that is negatively charged under neutral pH. This means that amino acids are pH neutral. Now there are some amino acids that are acidic based on their side-chain but an equal amount that are basic. The overall effect is that proteins, polypeptides of amino acids, are pH neutral...they are not acidic. The blood is pH buffered by bicarbonate and no amount of protein is going to turn your blood acidic. This is utter nonsense.

That was a hot mess of super science. I think........ I think I love you.