You people are sooooo mean!

Please, don't forget that sitting in a hot tub is her idea of cardio and then she linked to a website that sells hot tubs, which talked about sitting in a hot tub to promote cardiovascular health as proof. Really, that was the golden turd right there.

Wait...have these threads been deleted already? I would love to read them. You know, for the science...

The link contained links and medical citations. Another fault of a quick search to appease you all. Either way it states you can find the study on the mayo clinic web site. Any bother to go look? And I said "light cardio" as a hot tub will burn calories (more than just sitting there but less than any other cardio workout) through it's effects on our cardiovascular system. Again, you know how to use google.

I dont know how to do gifs lol TEACH ME!

{IMG}http://www.iamsofreakingfullofawesome.gif

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

That is from 1996.

You know what is more recent? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

You should be familiar with that. But here's the summary, one more time: Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.

I bolded the part that specifically references the '96 study.

By all means then, attack me for not keeping up with this massive amount of information out there where people can easily get confused.

Again, Making me look dumb does not make you look smart. Just makes you look like an as$hole

I dont know how to do gifs lol TEACH ME!

{IMG}http://www.iamsofreakingfullofawesome.gif

The second img tag has to be /img

Just take any post with a gif, click "quote" and you'll see how it's done.

Just because ...

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

That is from 1996.

You know what is more recent? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

You should be familiar with that. But here's the summary, one more time: Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.

I bolded the part that specifically references the '96 study.

By all means then, attack me for not keeping up with this massive amount of information out there where people can easily get confused.

Again, Making me look dumb does not make you look smart. Just makes you look like an as$hole

My goal in explaining to you why you aren't using the best sources to prove your point is totally making me look like an *kitten* and if I wouldn't be doing that you'd totally be coming off as the Einstein of our generation.

Just because ...

Every time this commercial comes on, my fiance has to rewind it and watch it again. :laugh:

I'm sorry, the glory of all that lies within this shirt can only be seen through the power of love farts. And you don't want to know what you have to do to get that power. Lets just say I'm still removing glass from my *kitten*.

It's always great when a newbie jumps on these boards and demands attention.

Where's that "muppet-attention-*kitten*" gif when I need it?

I certainly didn't try to get this attention. Who would? *Smacks you upside head* Use your common sense!

*you're

Nice detour... Who would want all this negative attention? Why can't I just post without having it? It appears you guys are calling me an attention wh0re when all you guys are doing is giving it to me. Not only is it counter productive but a huge contradiction. How on earth can you call me an attention *kitten* when you are the ones showing all the attention?! This logic boggles my mind.

Guess what? Your "medical proof with no proof" post about something completely asinine is NOT the first to be posted! Not everything is about you. You might want to take a vacation from the interwebz today.

It seems you guys can't help but to make it about me. Has this thread not turned into the same attackers from earlier making the same lame points and jokes? Maybe you should scroll the comments and read again to get a better view before you go accusing people of liking the horribly excused behavior you all seem to exhibit.

This thread isn't about YOU -- it's about the MFP noob cliché.


You posted BS that has been posted and debunked a million times before. You reacted in a way that most do (poorly, with name calling and meanie response threads).

I didn't see a single debunk. I can tell you what i saw, but I think you know. Quit making excuses for bad behavior. Like I deserved it or something. WOW!

Okay..debunk. Lets see. Here is the citation you provided for why eating the amount of protein most people eat is "medically proven" to be bad for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

Keep in mind this is the citation that you yourself provided to back up your claim.

I invite you to now actually read your own citation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

That is from 1996.

You know what is more recent? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

You should be familiar with that. But here's the summary, one more time: Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.

I bolded the part that specifically references the '96 study.

By all means then, attack me for not keeping up with this massive amount of information out there where people can easily get confused.

Again, Making me look dumb does not make you look smart. Just makes you look like an as$hole

My goal in explaining to you why you aren't using the best sources to prove your point is totally making me look like an *kitten* and if I wouldn't be doing that you'd totally be coming off as the Einstein of our generation.

I investigated your link to cornell.

This article is referencing a book, non-peer reviewed, by a Dr. T. Collin Campbell cited here:

[1] Campbell, T. Colin, PhD, with Thomas M. Campbell II, The China Study: Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss, and Long-Term Health, Dallas: BenBella Books, 2004, p. 4.

Dr. Campbell, a vegetarian and political activist, wrote this book and published it. It has been widely discredited but is thumped like a bible by vegitarians who want to claim that eating protein is bad for you. There are no studies that back this up in the peer reviewed literarture...at all. Your link, although on the cornell.edu website, is an editorial article talking about Dr. Campbell's findings and not in and of itself a study.

All studies and metaanalysis in the peer review literature either directly refute the claims made in this book or do not support them.

I invite you to google "Dr. Campbell China study" and look into this for yourself.

I'm pretty much a target right now

Oh you pretty much deserved what you got in that thread. But as was stated earlier I don't think this thread is about you, it is about your archetype sure...it was probably inspired by you yeah...but to consider it all about you is taking it a bit far. I think people are just blowing off some steam related to post quality on these forums.

I can see you guys play a big part in contribution towards post quality--and I don't mean that in a good way.