Study: People lost more weight drinking diet soda...

ScottH_200
ScottH_200 Posts: 377 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
I knew it! All the people on here trash talking diet soda.

"Makes you crave sugar...It's poison...Causes you to bloat..." blah, blah, blah.

This study PROVES that diet soda drinkers lose more weight on average than those who just drank water while dieting. Case closed!

Stop trash talking diet soda! I love Diet Pepsi and have lost almost 80 lbs in 7.5 months while drinking it. ;-)

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/life/wellness/health/2014/05/31/study-reported-people-drinking-diet-soda-lost-weight-drinking-water/9787445/
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  • dtorocol
    dtorocol Posts: 1
    I don't have to read the study.
    Good luck with all the trash chemicals Diet Pepsi has (Aspartame, etc...)

    Water has no long term effects, we need it. Biology says it's a fundamental need for life.

    Just keep drinking Diet Pepsi for years and years and only you will see the long-term effects of so much Diet Pepsi
  • Velum_cado
    Velum_cado Posts: 1,608 Member
    I'm not interested enough to read that whole article, but could it be that the people drinking diet soda would normally have been drinking regular soda, and therefore their calories were reduced even more by drinking the diet? I'm not convinced that adding diet soda to my diet will increase my weight loss, which is what the study suggests.

    I don't think diet soda is bad for you, in and of itself. Everything in moderation and all. I have a couple diet sodas a month just because I find regular soda too sweet (although my husband says this is because I don't add enough whiskey to it) >.<
  • keeponkickin
    keeponkickin Posts: 1,520 Member
    Stop trash talking diet soda! I love Diet Pepsi and have lost almost 80 lbs in 7.5 months while drinking it. ;-)

    I saw that on the news the other morning. I started drinking diet soda 35 years ago. I was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic and regular soda wasn't an option after that point in time. I have also lost 110 pounds in a year. Well, not from diet soda but from the change of diet and exercise. :laugh:

    I haven't sprouted a third eye, tail or glow in the dark from diet soda. :drinker:
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  • violetbluemornings
    violetbluemornings Posts: 99 Member
    I drank diet pepsi for 25 years. 2 litre a day or so lol Nothing wrong with me health wise. It also never deterred me from losing weight. I only stopped drinking it because of financial reasons. Wanted to put more money back into my budget. I still enjoy a diet soda from time to time.
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  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I don't have to read the study.
    Good luck with all the trash chemicals Diet Pepsi has (Aspartame, etc...)

    Water has no long term effects, we need it. Biology says it's a fundamental need for life.

    Just keep drinking Diet Pepsi for years and years and only you will see the long-term effects of so much Diet Pepsi

    So what are the long term affects? Where are your links to studies that prove any detrimental long term affects?

    What about the chemicals they put in water these days?

    Not fussed either way because I don't often drink any soda but just because we believe things are true does not make them so
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  • Noogynoogs
    Noogynoogs Posts: 1,028 Member
    And the cleanest stomaches lol
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    Who funded this thing?
  • kkozla
    kkozla Posts: 1
    Just so you know that study was funded by the American Beverage Association (or the soda companies).

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/27/health/diet-soda-weight-loss/
    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/05/28/316321004/industry-study-finds-diet-drinks-help-dieters-shed-more-lbs-than-water

    It MAY be biased.

    I am not saying it is or it isn't as I myself do drink diet soda (even though I am trying to back off of aspartame and get on natural sugar free sweeteners).

    I am just saying I would like to see a study done by a third party who has no interest one way or the other. Otherwise it is just like we are asking the Tobacco company to do a study on how bad Nicotine really is for us.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    I don't have to read the study.
    Good luck with all the trash chemicals Diet Pepsi has (Aspartame, etc...)

    Water has no long term effects, we need it. Biology says it's a fundamental need for life.

    Just keep drinking Diet Pepsi for years and years and only you will see the long-term effects of so much Diet Pepsi

    And those long term effects would be…? Diet sodas have been around for decades, people have been drinking them for decades, we should have more than enough case studies available if there were any data indicating diet soda had negative health effects from long-term consumption.
  • princessmommy122
    princessmommy122 Posts: 135 Member
    Lol, this is so funny. I keep my diet soda drinking in the closet. It definitely helped me lose 14 pounds. But I only mention it in hushed tones.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    Right, this one study (by the American Beverage Association, no less) proves that once and for all.

    You do realize that this study is getting published merely for the fact that it's result is controversial, right? There are many other studies that show no correlation whatsoever. And even if they did, correlation=/=causation. Eating ice cream doesn't cause polio: http://theglyptodon.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/polio-caused-by-ice-cream/

    Nice try. Enjoy your cancer.
  • BCLION515
    BCLION515 Posts: 1 Member
    My wife got sick and almost died drinking Diet Pepsi. Most Diet Sodas have NutraSweet (Aspartame) in them and NutraSweet contains monosodium glutamate (MSG) as one of its ingredients. MSG works directly on your nervous system to make you think something taste better. My wife was an Epileptic and the MSG in the NutraSweet caused her to get very ill and actually may have been part of the reason for her early demise at age 53. NutraSweet is very dangerous and should be banned from the market and all Diet Sodas should be also unless the makers can find a safer sweetener to use in them.
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    I NEED DIET SODA FOR MY VODKA

    Sugar Free Red Bull and Vodka for the win!
  • pander101
    pander101 Posts: 677 Member
    My wife got sick and almost died drinking Diet Pepsi. Most Diet Sodas have NutraSweet (Aspartame) in them and NutraSweet contains monosodium glutamate (MSG) as one of its ingredients. MSG works directly on your nervous system to make you think something taste better. My wife was an Epileptic and the MSG in the NutraSweet caused her to get very ill and actually may have been part of the reason for her early demise at age 53. NutraSweet is very dangerous and should be banned from the market and all Diet Sodas should be also unless the makers can find a safer sweetener to use in them.

    MSG is in a lot of things.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    My wife got sick and almost died drinking Diet Pepsi. Most Diet Sodas have NutraSweet (Aspartame) in them and NutraSweet contains monosodium glutamate (MSG) as one of its ingredients. MSG works directly on your nervous system to make you think something taste better. My wife was an Epileptic and the MSG in the NutraSweet caused her to get very ill and actually may have been part of the reason for her early demise at age 53. NutraSweet is very dangerous and should be banned from the market and all Diet Sodas should be also unless the makers can find a safer sweetener to use in them.

    My father and my brother both have violent reactions to aspartame, causing headaches, nausea, dizziness, and even paranoia. My mother used to get headaches from eating taco bell before they stopped putting MSG in their food. These man-made "flavorings" are scary science experiments gone wrong.
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    My wife got sick and almost died drinking Diet Pepsi. Most Diet Sodas have NutraSweet (Aspartame) in them and NutraSweet contains monosodium glutamate (MSG) as one of its ingredients. MSG works directly on your nervous system to make you think something taste better. My wife was an Epileptic and the MSG in the NutraSweet caused her to get very ill and actually may have been part of the reason for her early demise at age 53. NutraSweet is very dangerous and should be banned from the market and all Diet Sodas should be also unless the makers can find a safer sweetener to use in them.

    So because SOME people can't handle it ALL of it should be regulated for ALL people? Hell nah.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    Right, this one study (by the American Beverage Association, no less) proves that once and for all.

    You do realize that this study is getting published merely for the fact that it's result is controversial, right? There are many other studies that show no correlation whatsoever. And even if they did, correlation=/=causation. Eating ice cream doesn't cause polio: http://theglyptodon.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/polio-caused-by-ice-cream/

    Nice try. Enjoy your cancer.

    Either post a study linking diet soda consumption to cancer in humans, or knock it off. I'm sorry, but having seen people die of cancer who never did any "bad" things for their health, I just don't find throwing cancer around to be funny.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    My wife got sick and almost died drinking Diet Pepsi. Most Diet Sodas have NutraSweet (Aspartame) in them and NutraSweet contains monosodium glutamate (MSG) as one of its ingredients. MSG works directly on your nervous system to make you think something taste better. My wife was an Epileptic and the MSG in the NutraSweet caused her to get very ill and actually may have been part of the reason for her early demise at age 53. NutraSweet is very dangerous and should be banned from the market and all Diet Sodas should be also unless the makers can find a safer sweetener to use in them.

    MSG is in a lot of things.

    A lot of restaurants and food manufacturers have removed MSG from their products due to consumer demand. Taco Bell for one. Also, most Chinese restaurants. The MSG in snack foods (like Doritos, etc) has been shown to be one of the reasons these foods are so addicting.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    Right, this one study (by the American Beverage Association, no less) proves that once and for all.

    You do realize that this study is getting published merely for the fact that it's result is controversial, right? There are many other studies that show no correlation whatsoever. And even if they did, correlation=/=causation. Eating ice cream doesn't cause polio: http://theglyptodon.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/polio-caused-by-ice-cream/

    Nice try. Enjoy your cancer.

    Either post a study linking diet soda consumption to cancer in humans, or knock it off. I'm sorry, but having seen people die of cancer who never did any "bad" things for their health, I just don't find throwing cancer around to be funny.

    Who was being funny? It's a very real concern. Studies have shown it to cause cancer in animals. We can't replicate these studies in humans because it wouldn't be ethical. We don't know what causes most cancers in humans.
  • pander101
    pander101 Posts: 677 Member
    So aside from being potent than actual sugar I can't find any of these horrible long term effects people have been talking about. A lot of the articles I have been finding online also have very poor backing. I have been drinking diet soda for years and have been just fine. More then just 1 can a day, more like 20oz to 60oz. It has helped keep me from needlessly snacking. I also drink 40oz to 80oz of water everyday and 4 to 6 cups of tea most days so diet pop isn't my only source of fluid.

    If you don't like diet pop, fine. But don't blame weight gain or any problems on it. Just don't drink it.
  • Fionahatch
    Fionahatch Posts: 3 Member
    Please, quick show of "bumps" if you know anyone who has EVER DIED of aspertame?

    Anyone? Anyone know of anyone close to them who has DIED of aspertame?

    If you insist...

    There is a long long long history of scientific studies (independent from fizzy drinks companies) and all of them point to the same fact, asapartame is BAD for you. I can link many for you but I just picked the first 2 that came up. If you would like more evidence I can provide it.

    First paper:

    Conducted in humans with a very large sample size, therefore quite accurate. It is independent and contains no affiliations, so you can trust this paper. "Consumption of Aspartame-Containing Beverages and Incidence of Hematopoietic and Brain Malignancies". This paper showed that with increased consumption of aspartame, you have an increased incidence of brain tumors. Yes, you read correctly, you're more likely to get brain cancer. Now I understand that people that drink soda, will tend to be generally less healthy and therefore there are other factors. This is a limiting factor BUT they have accounted for this in their statistics and variables. So in conclusion their data is pretty accurate.

    http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/15/9/1654.abstract

    Second paper:

    Another study in humans but in a different approach. "Adverse reactions to aspartame: Double-blind challenge in patients from a vulnerable population" It used unipolar depressed people, so people that are more susceptible to mood swings. What they showed was so astonishing that the study had to be cut short. By these emotionally unstable people consuming aspartame, the symptoms became so severe the study was stopped. They finish by stating "We conclude that individuals with mood disorders are particularly sensitive to this artificial sweetener and its use in this population should be discouraged.".


    So here is my evidence. Aspartame is so bad for you, it increases your life probabilty chance of developing brain cancer (and others) as well as be severely bad for depressed people. You may not be depressed, but this has to make you think, why does a sweetener cause such damage to them. Clearly if its not good for them, it is not good for the rest of the population.

    http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/0006-3223(93)90251-8/abstract

    Drink water.

    (I'm not new to myfitnesspal but I have only recently started using it consistently. I'm a research doctor in cardiology and would welcome feedback, friend requests and comments).
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    If it's the study that was reported this week in my local news (probably), then keep in mind that both groups already drank diet soda at the start. They were both then asked to start a reduced calorie diet, with self-tracking and self-reporting. One group still had their diet soda, the other was told to stop. At the end, the diet soda group lost more weight.

    It wasn't that diet soda was CAUSING people to lose weight. The conjecture is that still being allowed to drink diet soda probably made it easier to adhere to other restrictions of the diet. For example, a participant allowed soda could reach for that when wanting something sweet, while one in the water group might be more likely to have a treat with calories. After all, it's easier to only make a few small changes at a time, so continuing diet soda may help in making other healthy changes.

    The study didn't suggest at all that those wanting to lose weight should START drinking diet soda. (Although switching from regular to diet could be beneficial). It just showed that those who drank diet soda before were able to lose more weight when still allowed to drink diet soda. So yeah, it's not the big, bad wolf of weight loss that will stall you out. But it isn't a cure for weight loss struggles, either.
  • emdeesea
    emdeesea Posts: 1,823 Member
    Oh come on. This study was industry-funded. Of COURSE their results came out positive in favor of diet soda. Those results were paid for.

    That's just bad science in a nutshell for you.
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  • CharlieOverby
    CharlieOverby Posts: 82 Member
    I am 72 years old and eat and drink what ever I want. I just watch calories in calories out. Life is to short to get twisted up about some things. I don't care what you eat or drink, you are not going to get our of this world alive
  • pander101
    pander101 Posts: 677 Member
    Right, this one study (by the American Beverage Association, no less) proves that once and for all.

    You do realize that this study is getting published merely for the fact that it's result is controversial, right? There are many other studies that show no correlation whatsoever. And even if they did, correlation=/=causation. Eating ice cream doesn't cause polio: http://theglyptodon.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/polio-caused-by-ice-cream/

    Nice try. Enjoy your cancer.

    Either post a study linking diet soda consumption to cancer in humans, or knock it off. I'm sorry, but having seen people die of cancer who never did any "bad" things for their health, I just don't find throwing cancer around to be funny.

    Who was being funny? It's a very real concern. Studies have shown it to cause cancer in animals. We can't replicate these studies in humans because it wouldn't be ethical. We don't know what causes most cancers in humans.

    What study?

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