Me running/eating less calories vs me eating more/lifting
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No, I was just asking cause clearily I'm doing it wrong
most of the machines at my gym are for arms anyway
Your first mistake is relying on machines. Machines don't engage your core like compound movements using a barbell. That's what you're doing wrong.
machines aren't that bad. they are designed with a purpose if used correctly. I have seen so many success stories of people who survived “livefit", a program primarily using gym machines.0 -
Look at Stronglifts 5x5 and Simple Strength as good starting points. You can watch the two full Stronglifts workouts on YouTube. Progressive heavy lifting is a very efficient way to get great results in a fairly nominal time commitment in the gym.
Thank you for sharing this! Call me a pansy but I have always been intimidated by the weight room. As soon as I can get the gaggle of guys out of the way I should jump to the squat rack and take my turn.0 -
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Look at Stronglifts 5x5 and Simple Strength as good starting points. You can watch the two full Stronglifts workouts on YouTube. Progressive heavy lifting is a very efficient way to get great results in a fairly nominal time commitment in the gym.
Thank you for sharing this! Call me a pansy but I have always been intimidated by the weight room. As soon as I can get the gaggle of guys out of the way I should jump to the squat rack and take my turn.
I think most women feel this way in the beginning. I definitely did! I had a really good PT for awhile to show me the ropes so I didn't have to walk over there blind.
These feelings will fade though over time. I used to always be concerned with guys judging my form and thinking "she's obviously a newb" and whatnot. I am not bothered with these thoughts anymore.0 -
Cool results girl
Of course as an aside, weight lifting does very little for your cardiovascular health unless you tempo lift. I think there is a place for both activities. Lifting obvious increases strength and is very good for the ego (which is important particularly in women) but whilst your muscles will grow and strength increase, unless you are matching all that gym work with running/CV exercise, then your heart will not be improved by weightlifting.
The two types of exercise are fundamentally different and form different purposes. Like I said there is reason to do both but it is important that you are taking part in cardiovascular activity. I used to run to the gym, strength lift session and run home. I don't lift currently because I felt a decline in my CV fitness and with limited time, it was more important for me to use that time running.
Weightlifting is fundamentally about appearance but has great psychological effects particularly for women (it is very empowering) and running is about fundamentally about health and fitness. This does mean that it doesn't necessarily provide you with a sculpted appearance but for me the decision was about feeling that heart fitness which I love so much.
There is sometimes a blurring on the conversations on this site about about what is health and appearance. The two are quite separate
Glad that you are happier though 0 -
haha.Cool results girl
Of course as an aside, weight lifting does very little for your cardiovascular health unless you tempo lift. I think there is a place for both activities.
OP's post isn't about doing only one. False argument there.
You need to go there?Lifting obvious increases strength and is very good for the ego (which is important particularly in women) but whilst your muscles will grow and strength increase, unless you are matching all that gym work with running/CV exercise, then your heart will not be improved by weightlifting.
Fundamentally wrong - you are confusing weight lifting and body building. WL is about strength and muscular capacity - every dedicated athlete includes some for strength, power and endurance.Weightlifting is fundamentally about appearance but has great psychological effects particularly for women (it is very empowering) and running is about fundamentally about health and fitness.
(and you went there again. )There is sometimes a blurring on the conversations on this site about about what is health and appearance. The two are quite separate
Your health goals might not match someone else's / as someone that has long term tri-athlete goals I would never exclude weight lifting - and yet you do. You are blurring your goals about your health with what might not be the goals of others ...
Simply increasing lbm is one healthy goal.0 -
Thing is -you run for a healthy heart - and you do weights for healthy muscles - you should be doing a bit of both
You look great!0 -
Thing is -you run for a healthy heart - and you do weights for healthy muscles - you should be doing a bit of both
You look great!
Thank you.
With all due respect, you do not need to run. I don't know why but people seem to think running is the only way to get cardiovascular exercise. It isn't.
Before each lifting session, I spend 10 minutes walking on the treadmill at a high incline and steady speed. I do HIIT once a week that heavily involves the row machine. I go on occassional hikes. I go on walks, not including all the walking I do when I take public transportation and walking all over campus with a heavy backpack on my back.0 -
Thing is -you run for a healthy heart - and you do weights for healthy muscles - you should be doing a bit of both
You look great!
Thank you.
With all due respect, you do not need to run. I don't know why but people seem to think running is the only way to get cardiovascular exercise. It isn't.
Before each lifting session, I spend 10 minutes walking on the treadmill at a high incline and steady speed. I do HIIT once a week that heavily involves the row machine. I go on occassional hikes. I go on walks, not including all the walking I do when I take public transportation and walking all over campus with a heavy backpack on my back.
AGREED! I don't know if you guys know who Jen Sinkler is , but she has a great shirt that reads- Q- What do you do for Cardio?
A- I lift weights FASTER!
I must get that shirt.
I do kettlebell sport which requires ALOT of endurance. I lifted the kettlebell for 10 straight minutes without putting it down, one hand switch. IT never leaves my hand. That's my conditioning. I havent run for over 2 years since doing kb work. I pair it with heavy barbell work and it's a great workout.
Alot of people will tell me I need to run too..and then they try KB Sport..and realize,,its not necessary. There are different ways to do cardio and get your conditioning on...running is but one option.0 -
No, I was just asking cause clearily I'm doing it wrong most of the machines at my gym are for arms anyway
I still leave the gym and think I didn't do anything today because I am not dripping of sweat from running on hour on machines. But trust me you can see major results with lifting.
Totally feel this way too sometimes! On leg day after squats and lunges and such I am sweating but I am not dripping sweat like I would be after a spin class for example. On other days I am hardly sweating at all and I feel like I didn't do anything - however the next day when I can't even hold up my hair dryer to blow dry my hair, I get a very different picture.
You look amazing and I am so glad to see this progress - especially when so many women think they will just bulk right up. Congrats!!!!0 -
I need to get my head around this.
Currently doing 5 hours a week intense cardio and minimal weights/core training.
I've lost a fair bit of weight and not a million aways from my goal - but I still feel bullky and squishy and like I take up too much room for what I weigh.
All the lifting ladies I've seen are lean and compact - which maybe I should switch my goal to instead of number on the scales.
I feel like half the battle of this is the head-f**k I'm going through - eat more than I have in the last AGES and still be compact? WAIT WHAAAAAAT?!!
One day. Goals.0 -
I need to get my head around this.
Currently doing 5 hours a week intense cardio and minimal weights/core training.
I've lost a fair bit of weight and not a million aways from my goal - but I still feel bullky and squishy and like I take up too much room for what I weigh.
All the lifting ladies I've seen are lean and compact - which maybe I should switch my goal to instead of number on the scales.
I feel like half the battle of this is the head-f**k I'm going through - eat more than I have in the last AGES and still be compact? WAIT WHAAAAAAT?!!
One day. Goals.
In the grand scheme of things, I find scale weight to be an incredibly trivial piece of data.
I mean, honestly, I had to tell myself - who gives a crap if I weigh more on the scale? If I look hotter than that's all I care about, LOL.0 -
This is awesome!0
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I need to get my head around this.
Currently doing 5 hours a week intense cardio and minimal weights/core training.
I've lost a fair bit of weight and not a million aways from my goal - but I still feel bullky and squishy and like I take up too much room for what I weigh.
All the lifting ladies I've seen are lean and compact - which maybe I should switch my goal to instead of number on the scales.
I feel like half the battle of this is the head-f**k I'm going through - eat more than I have in the last AGES and still be compact? WAIT WHAAAAAAT?!!
One day. Goals.
Although many say lifting makes you lean - and it does - I like to say it makes you solid. For what I weigh, I don't look like I weigh that much but my significant other (who is 6'5 and VERY strong) knows that you can't move me . . . I am SOLID . . . not solid muscle like I would like, but just solid. So cardio will help you lose weight provided you're at a deficit but muscles - muscles burn calories even at rest so by building muscle it's helping to maintain long term. Therefore when your LBM increases, you can have a higher caloric goal because you're BMR has increased and you're expending more energy just by breathing essentially. You won't lose as fast but you'll find it's easier to maintain because when just doing cardio, you can't possibly increase your work out enough to sustain over the long term. I look at it like cardio is good for today, lifting will never expire.
Your body will become solid by lifting, same weight (maybe) but your body composition will change! Good luck . . . and it is very addictive!0 -
I need to get my head around this.
Currently doing 5 hours a week intense cardio and minimal weights/core training.
I've lost a fair bit of weight and not a million aways from my goal - but I still feel bullky and squishy and like I take up too much room for what I weigh.
All the lifting ladies I've seen are lean and compact - which maybe I should switch my goal to instead of number on the scales.
I feel like half the battle of this is the head-f**k I'm going through - eat more than I have in the last AGES and still be compact? WAIT WHAAAAAAT?!!
One day. Goals.
In the grand scheme of things, I find scale weight to be an incredibly trivial piece of data.
I mean, honestly, I had to tell myself - who gives a crap if I weigh more on the scale? If I look hotter than that's all I care about, LOL.
Scale weight has always been an annoyance in my life because my look does match the scale number.
I tried to ditch it since I started lifting but haven't been able to do so, especially seeing those thin women who can do both: lifting weight while losing weight...I am so jealous...0 -
Kudos on your results!0
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Awesome job.0
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Wow, that's amazing0
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Best way to get started weight lifting is to do a program like Jamie Eason's Live Fit Trainer. It's a three month program (available for free!) that actually works. I completed the program last year and loved it. I had muscles for the first time in my life (definition in my arms, my legs, even some oblique action!). Highly recommend it. And I never lifted weights before.
For exercises that you're not comfortable with (pull-ups!) or don't have equipment for (donkey calf raises??) look up alternative exercises in the bodybuilding.com database. I was able to complete most of the program in a tiny gym using just dumbbells and a cable machine.
Good luck!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-eason-livefit-trainer.html0 -
Inspiring! Facinating to see the difference considering you are a similar weight in both pictures.0
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thanks for that link! I'm looking at it now.
It's something I REALLY want to do, but need to find a way to do at home... Thanks so much!0 -
OP: Congrats on all the progress, that's awesome!
For me, I think both running and lifting are complementary. My goal is not to get super shredded, but to be strong and have endurance as a runner. With more cross training, my running improves. Yes, I do see more definition in my muscles when I cross train more heavily than when I just straight up run all the time, but I don't think it has to be an "either" "or" kind of a choice.0 -
I do have a question for anyone who might know the answer. When I first started lifting I was pretty much at my goal weight (149lbs wanted to be 145lbs) I happen to find lifting and loved the way it changed my body, I was so happy. I finished the NROL4W, I ran once a week for 3.1 miles and didn't really watch my calories, I simply did portions and didn't eat crap processed foods. I was maintaining and love it. So now flash forward I had a baby was not able to eat red meat or lift during my pregnancy (wish I would have gotten a second opinion, but what's done is done and she is one happy healthy baby) So short story long, I am doing the 5/3/1 Big But Boring - Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday, and doing a 20 minute HIIT program on Wednesdays. Should I do more cardio since this time around I need to lose weight on top of building more muscle? I am 5'5".5 179lbs and I like my body at 149lbs, although would love to be 145lbs but I don't care too much about what the scale says as long as I have a healthy BMI and Body Fat %, but I certainly do not have that now and know I have to lose at least 24lbs, any thoughts would be helpful - Thanks
Weight loss is about calories in - calories out. You can run or do cardio, but a mile running is only 100 calories. That's like a banana. It would be more efficient to just eat at an appropriate deficit.
(that being said, I love everything about running)
Thanks for the reply, I have my calories set at my TDEE - 20% - my macros - protein 30% of LBM / Fat at 35% LBM and / Carbs is the difference at 35%. I eat my workout calories back. I think I will up the time I do cardio from 20 to 30 minutes and try to add walking now that its nice, and maybe do some fast lifting on lifting days after my core muscle lifts. I know I wont build much muscle with a calorie deficit, but if I can lose the fat while maintaining my muscles and building strength I'll be happy.0 -
thanks for posting this. Your previous stats sound just like mine today.... I focus on running further and longer more so than weight training and eat 1400 cals
this gives me something to think about
Thanks!0 -
I do have a question for anyone who might know the answer. When I first started lifting I was pretty much at my goal weight (149lbs wanted to be 145lbs) I happen to find lifting and loved the way it changed my body, I was so happy. I finished the NROL4W, I ran once a week for 3.1 miles and didn't really watch my calories, I simply did portions and didn't eat crap processed foods. I was maintaining and love it. So now flash forward I had a baby was not able to eat red meat or lift during my pregnancy (wish I would have gotten a second opinion, but what's done is done and she is one happy healthy baby) So short story long, I am doing the 5/3/1 Big But Boring - Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday, and doing a 20 minute HIIT program on Wednesdays. Should I do more cardio since this time around I need to lose weight on top of building more muscle? I am 5'5".5 179lbs and I like my body at 149lbs, although would love to be 145lbs but I don't care too much about what the scale says as long as I have a healthy BMI and Body Fat %, but I certainly do not have that now and know I have to lose at least 24lbs, any thoughts would be helpful - Thanks
Weight loss is about calories in - calories out. You can run or do cardio, but a mile running is only 100 calories. That's like a banana. It would be more efficient to just eat at an appropriate deficit.
(that being said, I love everything about running)
Thanks for the reply, I have my calories set at my TDEE - 20% - my macros - protein 30% of LBM / Fat at 35% LBM and / Carbs is the difference at 35%. I eat my workout calories back. I think I will up the time I do cardio from 20 to 30 minutes and try to add walking now that its nice, and maybe do some fast lifting on lifting days after my core muscle lifts. I know I wont build much muscle with a calorie deficit, but if I can lose the fat while maintaining my muscles and building strength I'll be happy.
When I start getting fussy about my results, I go over to www.gokaleo.com and look at Amber again. Her secret was consistency. She watched her calories. She gets 45 minutes of exercise a day (a combination of lifting and other exercises). She just did it for six years.
I'm two years in with running and watching what I eat, and about 4 months in to a progressive resistance program that I'm sticking with. I can already see the results. Knowing that I've got to think long-term this time is giving me a totally different perspective.0 -
OP: Congrats on all the progress, that's awesome!
For me, I think both running and lifting are complementary. My goal is not to get super shredded, but to be strong and have endurance as a runner. With more cross training, my running improves. Yes, I do see more definition in my muscles when I cross train more heavily than when I just straight up run all the time, but I don't think it has to be an "either" "or" kind of a choice.
^^^this. Of course, it depends on what your goals are.0 -
Wow! You are so inspiring!0
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OP: Congrats on all the progress, that's awesome!
For me, I think both running and lifting are complementary. My goal is not to get super shredded, but to be strong and have endurance as a runner. With more cross training, my running improves. Yes, I do see more definition in my muscles when I cross train more heavily than when I just straight up run all the time, but I don't think it has to be an "either" "or" kind of a choice.
yes but depends on your ultimate goal and training method/intensity...ultimately, bodying building and marathon are two completely different appoaches. trying to do both might offset the result...but again...it just depends. I do both but I am neither... 0
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