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  • liekewheeless
    liekewheeless Posts: 416 Member
    140lb at 5'-7" is a perfectly healthy weight. Wanting to lose 5 to 10 lb at this weight is ok. (not necessary) Wanting to be 110lb may be a little to low. I can't judge what is right for you but discuss your weight goal with your doctor.

    I'm sorry you feel bad about the way you look. I'm also sorry to tell you that losing more weight probably won't solve that.
    Most people at this weight look great. I'm sure you do too. Learning to accept your body and what it can and can't be will be very important for you to move past this. If you don't feel your therapist is helping find one that can help you. You may have to go through more than one or two.
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    10 or 20 or 30 lbs above how you looked in these photos cannot make you fat. Not possible. And weight is not the problem based on what you posted. You need to talk to your therapist. Being upset about gaining lots of weight is normal. Feeling disgusted at your body when you are not just within normal weight range but right in the middle, because your goal is to be underweight, it is nor normal. You being around 105-100 will mean you will need to be hospitalised. Having such a goal is not healthy, please talk to a dr.
  • acorsaut89
    acorsaut89 Posts: 1,147 Member
    10 or 20 or 30 lbs above how you looked in these photos cannot make you fat. Not possible. And weight is not the problem based on what you posted. You need to talk to your therapist. Being upset about gaining lots of weight is normal. Feeling disgusted at your body when you are not just within normal weight range but right in the middle, because your goal is to be underweight, it is nor normal. You being around 105-100 will mean you will need to be hospitalised. Having such a goal is not healthy, please talk to a dr.

    Yepp. . . exactly
  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    110 at that height is ridiculous.

    I'm 5'8" and weigh on average between 160 170 pounds.

    If I was 110 pounds someone would have reported me and locked me up- 100% unhealthy weight.

    Seems like a perception shift is in order as well as perhaps some body recomp.

    And way more therapy. Body dismorphia and depression need to be addressed- and clearly we either have someone in dire need of help- or we have a very talented troll.
  • 4mricandy
    4mricandy Posts: 159 Member
    What would Scooby Do?
  • Lauren8239
    Lauren8239 Posts: 1,039 Member
    What would Scooby Do?

    He's mourning Kasey Kasem right now. :sad:
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    You sound like you may have a chemical imbalance. If that's true, you don't have to live like this. I suggest you consult a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist does both talk and medication therapy. A therapist just does behavioral and talk therapy. If you have a chemical imbalance in your brain, just talking about it won't fix it. You may have to fix the underlying medical problem (chemical imbalance) and then you can focus on fixing behavioral issues and talking about strategies for becoming and staying emotionally healthy. Not everybody with emotional issues has a chemical imbalance and needs medication, but it may be something to consider. :flowerforyou:



    I've always wondered, how does one get tested for an imbalance? Ive felt like this for years so I'm not sure it's that but just asking because my therapist never did anything like give me a test or diagnose me with anything other than "You sound depressed"

    Unfortunately, most mental disorders don't have an objective test. It's not like diabetes or thyroid or something where they can run a blood test and say "yep, your levels are off." The best thing would be to see a MD (psychiatrists specialize in this, but you general practitioner may be a good start anyway) and tell them you've bee dealing with depression for a long time and feel like you can't do it on your own. Ask for something to help.

    I've read through a lot of your responses, and like I said before, I can relate to a lot of what you're feeling because I've been there. The behaviors and resources people have suggested can be helpful. But, if I read your replies right, in your case they seem to be backfiring ... Which is a decent indicator that you have a chemical imbalance. Set an alarm on your phone or computer to call the doctor first thing tomorrow (as I assume that it's too late tonight) and get yourself an appointment. Then print up some of what you've written in these threads and take it in. That may be easier than trying to explain it all again.

    There's nothing wrong with needing an SSRI or something else to help you with this, just like there's nothing wrong with needing thyroid medication or insulin for a person whose body doesn't properly produce those. Once you've dealt with the mental issues, you can start looking at the body weight and image and decide what is healthy for you there (again with a doctor's assistance as you recover)
  • aauooh
    aauooh Posts: 1
    Hi there!

    I don't think all your issues are weight related. I want to ask if you're doing good work in your professional life, example are you going to school? what's your major? What have you thought about your career? What are your other goals in life, which I think are of the same importance if not more than the fitness! If you aren't kicking balls in your professional life, aren't happy with work, then somewhere all the negativeness will cloud your mind, and hence the weight gain. You need to go out more, go shopping, buy some nice dresses, make up, or whatever that makes you happy and start hanging out! Try and take a vacation, go travel countryside, take a week off, go on a road trip, and try to forget about the weight and focus on the nature, the outside beauty. If you're the person who stays indoor most of the time, don't do it! Go window shopping somewhere, point is to go out and interact. Look at the beauty in others and pick on things that you see in others that make you happy. We are so lucky to be born into this world, god has given us everything, limbs, food, lovely family. Why to clutter the mind with negativity? I suggest you to go out and enjoy the world, go out from your house! Spend the entire day outside! Do something nice for others, you'll be happy. If you have no where to go, go do some charity work. You're only 21, go do an internship in a hospital. Volunteer somewhere, and be thankful for what you have! Keep moving, don't bother weighing yourself, dress nicely put some make up and give yourself a kiss before you step out of the house if nobody else does!
  • ParkerH47
    ParkerH47 Posts: 463 Member
    5'7 and 143 is not overweight. (BMI = 22.4 = normal weight) I know you are feeling some deep feelings right now but I truly feel like this is more about self esteem than anything else. You truly need to learn to love yourself more. You need to 100% stop the negative self talk, if I sat around all day calling myself disgusting I would feel pretty fricken terrible too. Stop this nonsense and work with your therapist to find a way to love yourself.

    Consider that if you consider yourself disgusting at 5'7'' and 143, what would you think of me at 5'6 and 165? You wouldn't call me disgusting would you? So how is it that you are nicer to a complete stranger than you are to yourself. Its crazy when you think of it like that...
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Well damn.
  • xDawnsgrace
    xDawnsgrace Posts: 436
    okay. First, you may want to express this to your therapist. Ask them if they would be willing to screen you for depression, and possibly BDD(if you haven't already), and go from there.


    Second, i understand. But i want to remind you and everyone else, that if you don't love yourself before, you won't love yourself after. Loving yourself is hard, and i haven't gotten there quite yet, but i believe you can if you challenge the negative thoughts. For every negative intrusive thought you have about yourself, point out one good thing you DO like about yourself. (ex: "i'm disgusting", then think, "but hey, i really like (enter what you like about yourself. it can be anything)".) When i was seeing a therapist, she told me to try that and if you keep it up, it does work.

    another thing you could try doing is try to treat yourself like your best friend. You wouldn't call your best friend ugly and disgusting, so why should you be calling yourself that?

    Before working on your body, first work on how you feel about yourself as a whole.

    If you need to chat, feel free to add me or message me whenever. You don't have to go through anything alone.

    ETA: If it makes any difference, i was seeing a therapist for an eating disorder, body dysmorphic disorder, major depressive disorder, social phobia/anxiety, and self-injury. I can't take the place of a therapist, but i can be a friend.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    You are a super downer! This seems like self hate and you need to be having this conversation with a therapist. This isn't something we can help with on here, you need more serious help than anyone on the internet can provide. Maybe you need a different therapist or more visits...

    ^^^^ this

    the fact that you still hated yourself when you were thinner shows that this self hatred does not come from you being fat (or at least not you being a little bit fat right now... it might stem from you being fat when you were younger if you suffered abuse/mistreatment from people because of it..... or by any kind of trauma or mistreatment, or maybe some other deep-rooted cause)...... this is very deepseated and losing the fat will not fix the self hatred issues. You need to continue with the therapy. If you don't feel you're getting anywhere with your current therapist, don't be afraid to find a new one. If you have a good relationship with your therapist and want to continue with the same one, maybe find out whether you can do some kind of more intense therapy or some other approach that's going to help you more. Seriously, this issue is due to a problem with the way you think and feel about yourself as a whole person, and nothing you do to your body is going to fix it.

    If you're really carrying too much fat (a lot of people with the level of self-hatred that you have exaggerate the amount of fat they're carrying in their mind, so I'm guessing that you're not actually carrying too much fat at all and that you look great to other people) then getting rid of it is good for your health and your apperance, but your degree of self hatred and hatred of this fat is way beyond normal and completely pathological.... it's eating you up and destroying your life. The way to fix that is to overcome whatever it is in your mind that's making you think and feel this way. (and if you're not really fat then trying to lose it will harm your health)

    Just for a comparison, I gained too much fat on my last bulk. I'm now cutting to get back to the weight where my wilks score was best (that's a weightlifting thing, whereby you calculate strength relative to bodyweight) and ultimately I'm planning to cut to about 5lb less than that, because I want to compete in powerlifting and it's the cut-off for one of the weight categories. So anyway...... right now I don't like the area between my navel and mid thighs that much, because there's more fat there than there should be. But I like myself as a person still. I can smile at myself in the mirror, I like how my upper body and the rest of my legs look. I like myself as a person, and don't tear myself to pieces mentally over this little bit of extra fat. I don't like the extra fat much, but it's not going to stop me doing anything I want to do and it doesn't affect how I view myself as a person. I'm just going to continue with this cut and get rid of it, kind of like how I'll go get my legs waxed because I don't like the hair on them, but I'm not going to tear myself to pieces over a bit of hair that's easily removed... obviously fat loss is not so easy to do as getting your legs waxed, but that's how you should view excess fat, i.e. it's okay to want to get rid of it but it shouldn't evoke such intense self hatred.

    I'm writing this to illustrate the difference between the vehement, intense, self-hatred that you have, and a healthy reaction to excess fat. Really you need to understand that your self hatred is waaaay over the top and the cause of this self hatred isn't the extra fat you're carrying, it's much more deeply rooted that that, and it probably will take professional help (i.e. a good therapist) to help you to change the way you feel about yourself and free you from this so you can enjoy your life. Excess fat on your body should not stop you from living your life to the full - you don't have to like the actual fat and you can still take steps to get rid of it, without your mind and life being clouded by such intense hatred. Please continue with the therapy and keep working towards freeing yourself from this, and working towards being able to enjoy your life and be confident and successful in your music career. Don't let this issue stop you from sharing your talents with the world. I don't even know you but I'd like to see/hear some of your music if you want to share (if you don't then don't feel obliged, I'm just some random internet stranger who likes nearly all styles of music and loves hearing new music, I won't be offended if you don't want to share)
  • MEK1960
    MEK1960 Posts: 50 Member
    You know you can do it because, well, you've DONE it. So do it again. Also, stick with the therapy and add some exercise to get some positive feelings going. You CAN do it and you WILL do it.
  • PrincessEliNa
    PrincessEliNa Posts: 524 Member
    I'm not going to lie, your words got me pretty down :( I think there is so much power in words, and you gotta start there. You ARE worth it. You ARE beautiful. You are STRONG. Don't give up.

    Have you ever heard of the law of attraction? I recommend it. :) best wishes my friend!
  • BruceHedtke
    BruceHedtke Posts: 358 Member
    The best measure of health is not a number or a size. Stop trying to achieve what your body is resisting. It's resisting to keep you safe. Listen to it.


    I understand but it looks absolutely hideous and disgusting, I feel to just beat myself in frustration if I could, it ruins my life, and I just want it to not be this way, it can't do anything spectacular. I do my best and I get no change, I just want to be healthy, and strong, and feel happy and beautiful so this can all go away. I feel badly saying these things- I know I need to put in the work but I hate that I have to spend time out of my life to go and do all of this just for the sake of getting better at it when for most people it comes easier it seems and they get their goals. Work for them, I work for it and get nothing.
    But I will not stop.

    I am not trying to be mean, but when you say "work for it", how hard do you work for it? I can guarantee you this: those people that you envy (the ones with the perfect bodies, looks, etc) all had to work damn hard to achieve what they have. Take your pick of any of those people and they've all hit that barrier and wanted to stop, to quit, to just take the easy way out. What did they do? They kept going. I'm sure they wanted nothing more than to lie down on the ground and stop the agony. You can't expect to work out for a few months and then look in the mirror and say "why don't I look fabulous yet???"

    Getting your body in shape is difficult but not nearly as difficult as getting your mind right. None of the dieting or exercise is going to make you feel good about yourself until you can love yourself. The mirror isn't going to suddenly start showing you a person you adore, no matter how thin you become. As others have said, you are only seeing the negative you right now.

    If you don't have anyone you consider friends, try joining up with some activity group. Plenty of people join groups to go kayaking, riding bikes, hiking, skiing, snowshoeing...the list is almost endless. If you spend all your time alone, you're forcing yourself to only think about you and your issues. That's a vicious cycle to be in. Get out, meet people, smile and laugh. I know you'll probably think they'll all think you're hideous, but they won't. That's you projecting your thoughts onto others. I just think you need to get away from yourself for a little bit.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    The best measure of health is not a number or a size. Stop trying to achieve what your body is resisting. It's resisting to keep you safe. Listen to it.


    I understand but it looks absolutely hideous and disgusting, I feel to just beat myself in frustration if I could, it ruins my life, and I just want it to not be this way, it can't do anything spectacular. I do my best and I get no change, I just want to be healthy, and strong, and feel happy and beautiful so this can all go away. I feel badly saying these things- I know I need to put in the work but I hate that I have to spend time out of my life to go and do all of this just for the sake of getting better at it when for most people it comes easier it seems and they get their goals. Work for them, I work for it and get nothing.
    But I will not stop.

    I am not trying to be mean, but when you say "work for it", how hard do you work for it? I can guarantee you this: those people that you envy (the ones with the perfect bodies, looks, etc) all had to work damn hard to achieve what they have. Take your pick of any of those people and they've all hit that barrier and wanted to stop, to quit, to just take the easy way out. What did they do? They kept going. I'm sure they wanted nothing more than to lie down on the ground and stop the agony. You can't expect to work out for a few months and then look in the mirror and say "why don't I look fabulous yet???"

    Getting your body in shape is difficult but not nearly as difficult as getting your mind right. None of the dieting or exercise is going to make you feel good about yourself until you can love yourself. The mirror isn't going to suddenly start showing you a person you adore, no matter how thin you become. As others have said, you are only seeing the negative you right now.

    If you don't have anyone you consider friends, try joining up with some activity group. Plenty of people join groups to go kayaking, riding bikes, hiking, skiing, snowshoeing...the list is almost endless. If you spend all your time alone, you're forcing yourself to only think about you and your issues. That's a vicious cycle to be in. Get out, meet people, smile and laugh. I know you'll probably think they'll all think you're hideous, but they won't. That's you projecting your thoughts onto others. I just think you need to get away from yourself for a little bit.

    Have you seen the OP's pics and really read what she's saying? She's not fat, she has an extremely distorted self-image and an extreme amount of self hatred. She's never going to be able to look in a mirror and think she looks fabulous, because the "I'm so disgusting" thing comes from her mind, not from her body. Telling her to keep on going and that other people work harder than her is not good advice, and it's not true, other people don't work harder.... other people have a more realistic view of themselves. She needs to learn to love herself the way she is, and stop ripping herself to shreds in her mind. If she really does have excess fat that she wants to lose (which I seriously doubt) then she'll find it a lot easier to lose it after she's overcome this problem in her mind that's making her think the way she is.

    OP: seriously, you have an extremely distorted view of yourself, you need to fix that to be happy. Trying to fix your body when there's nothing wrong with your body is never, ever going to work. You know that scene in MacBeth (shakespeare play) where Lady MacBeth keeps on trying to wash the blood off her hands... no amount of water is going to wash off the blood, because there's no blood on her hands, the blood is in her mind.............. that's what you're doing to yourself. Except whatever mental state or past trauma has led you to feel this way about yourself is not your fault. But you need to recognise that the cure for this is to overcome whatever it is in your mind that's made you think this about yourself, and free yourself from it so you can see yourself as the beautiful person that you are and be free from this to be able to enjoy your life and appreciate your successes in life.
  • kirili3
    kirili3 Posts: 244 Member
    I could've written this!

    One very good thing to do is find out the underlying problem. If you are that focused on appearance, it seems that you think appearance will make you happy. It won't. It hasn't made anybody happy except narcissists, for obvious reasons.

    Remember that physical beauty is transient. What matters in life is what we live for, the meaning that we focus on. When we have a crisis of meaning we tend to obsess on looks.

    It's a good time to think about things that really matter. How you look really doesn't.
  • xiamjackie
    xiamjackie Posts: 611 Member
    Have you read this yet?

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1324837-a-different-kind-of-transformation

    It's about a woman who had similar struggles as you are having now. It's not hopeless. You were created by God, and He loves you. There is healing from self-loathing. Big hug!


    I've just read it and I love her outlook, inner confidence and self love is the key. Thank you for sharing this with me.

    I do just feel that I will not be confident and happy with myself at this size because it causes problems in my life, I hate it, and don't want to be this way. I hate feeling so terrible and hateful about it because I love love and hate feeling so horrible about myself.

    I won't be happy with the way I look if I am like this, I want to be healthy, inside and out. More so inside. Too much of nothing/negativity at this size. I feel the rolls in my back so much they are like weights. I just keep grabbing them wishing I could rip them off of my body, and leave me alone. I hate this so much, it's terrible and realy terrible to express such negativity to others but I just need to release this to others, on here is perfect because I have lovely people as in all of you to correspond to about an issue that others may have gone through or may understand.

    I feel I won't love myself and can't love myself at this size comfortably. Whenever I do, and get comfortable, I gain weight. This just makes me hurt so badly.


    I am so glad that someone offered to you what I wrote yesterday.

    5 years ago I was you. I hated everything about myself. I was disgusted at the way I looked to the point where I would refuse to leave the house. I remember going into the bathroom to turn the shower on, stripping naked, looking at myself in the mirror, and crawling into a heap on the floor, bawling my eyes out because I hated my appearance THAT much. I had an incredible boyfriend of 3 years, I pushed him away because I thought no one would ever love me because of how hideous and stupid I was.

    I ate about 500 calories a day, max. I would spend hours in front of a mirror, twisting and contorting myself to try to take the best "selfie" of myself I could (btw, the word "selfie" wasn't even a thing then). I would suck it in and hope I looked skinny in the mirror, take the picture, or two, or a thousand, hate them all and delete them. I would take a nap in the middle of the day just to get my mind off of how hungry I was.

    Believe me when I say I was there.

    Also believe me when I say where I am now. THE OTHER SIDE. I love myself now, and I'm truly 100% in all honesty saying that. Am I society's idea of perfect? Hell no. But I am striving to be the best version of myself I can be. I'm about 15 pounds heavier than those days where I tortured myself, but along with being HEAVIER, I am also STRONGER (mentally and physically), WISER, FUNNIER, I am driven, I have accomplished things, I have an amazing amazing amazing fiance who loves me for who I am and loves the strength I own (And for my cooking.... that's not too bad either).

    You will make it to the other side if you let yourself, but you have to let yourself. It may take time. It took me 5 years to get to this point. I no longer fear food, I treat it as fuel. I need food to fuel my heavy lifts.

    I also realized that no one liked me better when I was skinnier. It didn't solve any of my problems. The way I treated myself back then created so many more problems for me than imagineable. No one wants to be around someone who hates themselves all the time! They just don't. And no one can replace the love you can have for yourself (And that Jesus has for you....... yeah, I'm THAT guy. I wasn't fulfilled until I loved myself and until I fully recognized the love that the Lord has for me) You will never be happy unless you love yourself.

    Feel free to add me as a friend.
  • Fugeela
    Fugeela Posts: 96
    I will be responding to everyone as soon as I can. for anyone who may have sent a message, I will get back to you as soon as I can as well, I have read and appreciate all of them, as soon as I can I will respond to questions about this and the advice I've gotten individually.

    Thank you for taking the time to help me through this or try to help me.
  • bryannakay
    bryannakay Posts: 198 Member
    Have you read this yet?

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1324837-a-different-kind-of-transformation

    It's about a woman who had similar struggles as you are having now. It's not hopeless. You were created by God, and He loves you. There is healing from self-loathing. Big hug!


    I've just read it and I love her outlook, inner confidence and self love is the key. Thank you for sharing this with me.

    I do just feel that I will not be confident and happy with myself at this size because it causes problems in my life, I hate it, and don't want to be this way. I hate feeling so terrible and hateful about it because I love love and hate feeling so horrible about myself.

    I won't be happy with the way I look if I am like this, I want to be healthy, inside and out. More so inside. Too much of nothing/negativity at this size. I feel the rolls in my back so much they are like weights. I just keep grabbing them wishing I could rip them off of my body, and leave me alone. I hate this so much, it's terrible and realy terrible to express such negativity to others but I just need to release this to others, on here is perfect because I have lovely people as in all of you to correspond to about an issue that others may have gone through or may understand.

    I feel I won't love myself and can't love myself at this size comfortably. Whenever I do, and get comfortable, I gain weight. This just makes me hurt so badly.


    I am so glad that someone offered to you what I wrote yesterday.

    5 years ago I was you. I hated everything about myself. I was disgusted at the way I looked to the point where I would refuse to leave the house. I remember going into the bathroom to turn the shower on, stripping naked, looking at myself in the mirror, and crawling into a heap on the floor, bawling my eyes out because I hated my appearance THAT much. I had an incredible boyfriend of 3 years, I pushed him away because I thought no one would ever love me because of how hideous and stupid I was.

    I ate about 500 calories a day, max. I would spend hours in front of a mirror, twisting and contorting myself to try to take the best "selfie" of myself I could (btw, the word "selfie" wasn't even a thing then). I would suck it in and hope I looked skinny in the mirror, take the picture, or two, or a thousand, hate them all and delete them. I would take a nap in the middle of the day just to get my mind off of how hungry I was.

    Believe me when I say I was there.

    Also believe me when I say where I am now. THE OTHER SIDE. I love myself now, and I'm truly 100% in all honesty saying that. Am I society's idea of perfect? Hell no. But I am striving to be the best version of myself I can be. I'm about 15 pounds heavier than those days where I tortured myself, but along with being HEAVIER, I am also STRONGER (mentally and physically), WISER, FUNNIER, I am driven, I have accomplished things, I have an amazing amazing amazing fiance who loves me for who I am and loves the strength I own (And for my cooking.... that's not too bad either).

    You will make it to the other side if you let yourself, but you have to let yourself. It may take time. It took me 5 years to get to this point. I no longer fear food, I treat it as fuel. I need food to fuel my heavy lifts.

    I also realized that no one liked me better when I was skinnier. It didn't solve any of my problems. The way I treated myself back then created so many more problems for me than imagineable. No one wants to be around someone who hates themselves all the time! They just don't. And no one can replace the love you can have for yourself (And that Jesus has for you....... yeah, I'm THAT guy. I wasn't fulfilled until I loved myself and until I fully recognized the love that the Lord has for me) You will never be happy unless you love yourself.

    Feel free to add me as a friend.

    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!! I want to thank you all for posting this. And to you XIAMJACKIE, girl you are awesome and amazing and such an inspiration....I was trying to think of a really "cool big girl word" to use besides inspiration but, I couldn't think of one....you truly are my version of success!!!!!!

    And to Fugeela.....I feel like this post was a cry for help for you and you just needed random strangers on MFP to help you though what you are going through. Almost everyone has been at a stage in their life where they feel the way you feel about yourself....it is just that we all don't have the guts to write it on a forum posting :blushing: So, take this and the advice and run with it....because sooner or later, you will be in XIAMJACKIE's state of mind :smile: Good luck, your MFP family is here for you!!
  • ravengal
    ravengal Posts: 39
    Find a volunteer opportunity in your area. It may help you spend less time focusing inward.
  • cholepapi
    cholepapi Posts: 79
    Wow. So the real question here is who the hell hurt you or what did you see in your life to make you feel that way?
  • Flab2Fab27
    Flab2Fab27 Posts: 461 Member
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  • Polishprinsezz
    Polishprinsezz Posts: 249 Member
    i know i cannot wait til i weigh 143. i am the same height as you. i say it is time to see a therapist. it is hard to give support to someone who has a such a distorted view on their weight. many women would be thankful to to be your weight. including myself/ good luck.
  • Rocky791
    Rocky791 Posts: 52 Member
    Wow... at my lightest I was about your weight and I am exactly your height. My sister struggled with an eating disorder for years and never felt she was thin enough during that time. As others have said you have a distorted view of yourself. I am sorry that you are struggling with this... the negative self talk is so destructive but also a difficult habit to break. I have struggled with it also. I would suggest finding activities to get involved in that you enjoy and also finding a professional who can help you with the negativity/depression and possible eating disorder that you are struggling with. *Hugs*
  • 12by311
    12by311 Posts: 1,716 Member
    you either hate how things are and you work to change them.
    or you hate how things are and just complain about it.

    Honestly I see paragraph after paragraph of depressing hate... and 2 sentences describing what you are doing about it.

    Spend more time focusing on what you are doing, where you are going and how you are going to get there and about 95% less time ruminating about how much you hate yourself.

    Thisssss. So much this!

    And I agree with Jo also about getting "down" when I'm not actively pursuing a goal or I'm too idle in life.

    OP, I see you are 21. To be honest, I went through some kinda tough inner ish in my early twenties. Even though I was at a university and accomplishing some goals, it was still tough. 1) I think it's just a tough age. 2) Most early twenty year olds (myself definitely) are pretty self-absorbed in the grand scheme of things.

    I'm 31 now…and life is flying. I don't have enough TIME in the day to even worry about all that's wrong in this life. haha
    Find a volunteer opportunity in your area. It may help you spend less time focusing inward.

    So yeah.
  • Fugeela
    Fugeela Posts: 96
    Hi there!

    I don't think all your issues are weight related. I want to ask if you're doing good work in your professional life, example are you going to school? what's your major? What have you thought about your career?

    What are your other goals in life, which I think are of the same importance if not more than the fitness! If you aren't kicking balls in your professional life, aren't happy with work, then somewhere all the negativeness will cloud your mind, and hence the weight gain. You need to go out more, go shopping, buy some nice dresses, make up, or whatever that makes you happy and start hanging out! Try and take a vacation, go travel countryside, take a week off, go on a road trip, and try to forget about the weight and focus on the nature, the outside beauty. If you're the person who stays indoor most of the time, don't do it! Go window shopping somewhere, point is to go out and interact. Look at the beauty in others and pick on things that you see in others that make you happy. We are so lucky to be born into this world, god has given us everything, limbs, food, lovely family. Why to clutter the mind with negativity? I suggest you to go out and enjoy the world, go out from your house! Spend the entire day outside! Do something nice for others, you'll be happy. If you have no where to go, go do some charity work. You're only 21, go do an internship in a hospital. Volunteer somewhere, and be thankful for what you have! Keep moving, don't bother weighing yourself, dress nicely put some make up and give yourself a kiss before you step out of the house if nobody else does!

    I saw this question and just wanted to reply as soon as I could as I hope you're still around, but it brought up a lot of questions that are relevant to me. I am not doing good work in my professional life. I'm not going to school, but by choice, and unfortunately though however my father said some pretty negative and horrible things to me almost 17 months ago. He also did something horrible which was get violent and harass me, in turn dislocating my left pinky tendon (finger). I resent my family a lot, and while I don't hate them, I feel they are unprogressive, annoying, and terrible people. I know they mean well, but I don't like their behavior and unprogressive nature/lives, they are not motivated, they are all talk and bitter/terrible energy, which is why it does not help being around them. I wanted to move to London (i'd have a place to stay, I have many family there, people I have good contact with who arent as well) to try my hand with my music career, he tore my dreams down in turn, called me worthless for not being in school, a dunce, (LOL this was funny coing from someone who must then think of himself as one because he never went to school), called me horrible names, and in turn I was disabled for 7 months thanks to him along with two surgeries, and went through a terrible terrible depression. This was along the same time that I was going through a lot with friends just because I had some other issues, dealing with my weight yet again/appearance. He made things worse. I live with him now only because I drive his car, in fact I can't stand him or living in this area where I live. It is incredibly surburban, and rural at the same time, no life, no dreams, it makes my attitude and outlook terrible so I have to keep focused and dream and work hard for my dreams, but also keep faithful which is very hard to do.

    My mother does not live far away, she lives the next town over, she works in a corporate setting. She is a beautiful and strong woman but also very annoying, overbearing, and can be unprogressive not by nature but just extremely annoying and although encouraging, it's hard taking advice from someone who does not understand and tells me what to do. They have no respect for me as an individual, in fact she still likes to tell me how I should fix my hair, what I should wear, etc. When in reality I deep down wish they would all "f off" and let me be who I am, I can't be who I am around them, they live and lead boring lives. Yet they are content and thankful as they should be, but she is one person who loves to sit down and also say how "Fat" she is. She has been a size 2 nearly all of her life, yet now when almost 50 has gained weight and is not that size anymore complains about it everyday, yet has poor nutrition and barely eats at all, if so, not always the most efficient things for her as she has allergies and is a selective eater. She has a terrible gluten allergy but still eats anything because she doesn't eat much.

    She doesn't ask me anything about my music. Well, she does, but she tells me to get a job that does this/that/other, when she does not realize my job is FOCUSING ON MY MUSIC and ART, I have no problem getting my own funds but they do not help me, she has no respect for my creativity and she can also be incredibly cheap when it comes to helping me. It is okay as I am responsible for myself, but she could do more to help, she just sees things from a different angle.

    Next, I live with my grandma and father, she can't drive, never learned, is 76. I love her and am very close to her but I feel she slows me down and actually this all makes me hate them deep down, it makes me resent them so much. They are unprogressive, depressing, no interest, having people. She causes big problems, in fact, my father is a mama's boy who still can't wash his own dishes and leaves all his debris on the computer desk space and glasses of juice everywhere. I can't stand him, and then she has to clean everything up for her big boy. She slaves for him, cooks everyday, hard food that they shouldn't be eating. (We're Jamaican and the thing is that it's great to eat our food, but that is too intense for a kidney transplant patient, a woman on dialysis for 10 years prior, and a woman aging, no matter how strong) She does not enjoy her life. She is very religious so she is content, but she is damn right boring and unmotivated and she does the best she can to help me but holds me back in the process. She secretly, to me, tries to sabotage me. It's like everytime I go away she asks when I'm "coming" home and manipulates/tells me horrible things so I can be inclined to come back and do nothing. I have no inspiration here, it hurts me terrible artistically, but as a young woman, a young bright hearted and eyed soul ready for the beauty of the world and GROWTH. THEY NEVER GROW, they just stay the SAME. Which is a big part of why I feel this way.

    They hold me down and back, then I have to help them financially, meanwhile my father's only liking is sitting on the computer when my grandmother cooks him a meal for dinner every bloody evening, over a hot stove making pork, redmeat, or some other strenuous sort of thing. And she's such a pushover, she says she won't do it but yet still does, just a damn shame. She sits down and stares into space and talks on the phone everyday because she has no life and I feel badly because she can't even travel. She gets her pension money every month, but can't even use it for her ownself because she'll try to help me and then in turn has to STILL support her big baby one and only boy (my father), it is okay to work as a unit for help, but he does nothing for her. He makes her do things that she can't damn well do, like beg her to drop things places, HOW ON EARTH DOES SHE GET TO THESE PLACES? You know what happens? That's where I have to get involved. They slow me down, as I type this I feel my heart heavy and head raging with hurt, I can't wait to get away from them, and grow, I hate it here so much. He basically ruins my life, because I have to do things for him when he in turn does nothing absolutely nothing for me. I am thankful, because he helps pay the bills, but I don't really and truly like him. All he does is speak badly of others, gossip, talk about money he doesn't have, twenty years ago, etc. I would hate to be like them, and when I am around them, I can't help but to feel these ways about myself because I get ugly because I start to feel ugly. They are just slow. Our has been remodeling for 2 plus years now, instead of him doing anything to make it better, he sits and does nothing. My 73 year old grand-aunt (nan's sister) came for a week and she had the strength of a warrior. She hammer-shot old pieces of furniture, axed old 40 foot trees covered in fungus in our yard, did intense garden work, pulled old heavy appliances/couches/etc dirt/garbage/excess into a bin and garage. Most of this was done in a DAY. My grandma has been sleeping on the couch for almost two years until her sister came and brought a mattress and bed spring from the basement into her room, in which she cleaned up and removed old 18th century remains in. I hated when she left, she was someone who actively saw the nonsense in what I go through. Even she was disgusted by him.

    My grandma has not left the US in years. She left Jamaica decades ago, moved to Canada, then NYC, then to where we are now. The woman can't even damn well travel. She lost her birth certificate, and everything else. And her only form of ID is a rinsed passport................ALMOST 22 years expired. She says it with pride! "I HAVE MY PASSPORT" She just gets on my damn nerves with her nonsense as well. She causes so much problems with these things, it's ridiculous. She can't do anything because of it, and she is not ambitious to go and get it solved. Not like she can either because whenever she has money, she gives it to her son, my father, to make up for what he lacks, nearly everything, and then some. And in the interim, she will give me anything she has if she can, but I don't want it because she does not have it, it is time now for her to enjoy her life. I will do anything to make her happy but it is too much out of my life, my dreams, and it slows me down. I want her to have fun in life, but she does not have one. It's like she wants me to go to church with her multiple times a week, how in the world do we get there? She puts all this pressure on me, I don't even like going, in general, and it is far away. About 45 minutes, which is nothing in the greater scheme to hear the word. But how could I be happy going to church on a Friday night? I AM YOUNG and want to enjoy my life, and why be around old boring folks just doing praise and worship? NO EXPERIENCE. I am not experiencing anything but sadness. Oh and being around her is work because her favorite thing to do and that she can do is get DRIVEN places by her chauffeur who is deemed me. I can't stand them. And she loves asking me to drive her to the supermarket, almost everyday. It is sick, it is ridiculous. I just feel to cry in frustration about this, instead I am actually laughing because this all seems ridiculous and drawn out, "How can you feel so strongly about your life?" In fact it seems ungrateful, I am not, but I am fed up, and a lot of what I deal with on an emotional level is actually dealing with multiple things that I am around on a day to day basis. They could make anyone be depressed.

    He's barely ever traveled, much rather sit on his beloved computer or drink. He's always a burden, as a child growing up, for some reason my mother would make him come on trips with my sister and I, mess. He was just there taking up space, damn disgrace. He also would create arguments. That is another thing I can't stand him for, he has a horrible heart. He verbally abused my mother and would call her names growing up. In fact I'm not sure if I resent, but I can't stand my parents for their "relationship" they both are worthless for putting us through that. I was so happy when they divorced, they weren't even really together, just for names sake were they married. Also, my grandma lived with us, so she was always in the middle somehow. He's never grown up. He's just a mess. He doesn't have any ambition other than to have money in his life, just wants money, and sadly, he likes to tear down others with ambition. Whenever he asks me about music he asks me bull****, excuse my language, "Can you play the guitar?" Yes, I can, you **** head. Who asks someone that? You damn worthless idiot, he asks only to be faceitious, I just can't stand him. "Can you sing?" I just feel to say "SATAN BE GONE" He is by far the most provoking person I've ever encountered. I just feel terrible, all this doubt.

    When I was away in London for a long time, when I finally escaped the matrix and jungle I live in, he sent me an email harassing me about me not being in school after the fact his old stupid idiotic self put harm to me and sunk me into a big psychological mess. I was injured, and to be spiteful, his demonic self sold my car for $200, for cheap just because he didn't want me to have a way around. Then I had no way of getting to therapy or my doctor, my grandma again was at the rescue, she would find funds just to get me there via cab which would be about 300 every week. I'd have to go to occupational therapy three times a week because of him, and to my surgeon for check ups. Anyway, he has a vivid imagination because he believes I was "doing so well" in college and he "doesn't know what I'm doing and you were so focused and now not etc." he makes up things. I don't even like talking to him, so how he figures these things? His imagination or make believe confirmation from his yes man, my grandma. He knows nothing about me, he doesn't know anything, not even my favorite color. Or favorite artist> All he knows I love music. He thinks we have had a close relationship. He loves to believe people set me up to "hate him" but the reality is I hate no one! LOL, in fact, I don't care enough about him to hate him. He is a very lost man, who causes problems just by being himself, not a nice person. Everyone is human, despite my outloook towards him, I still see the positive. He is the way he is because of what he has and has not gone through, achieved, and never grew out of. He is not an evolved soul, for that his soul weeps into the beauty of others creations; burning fire into their rivers and waters of love, art, and creation not out of envy but out of bitterness towards the world and others. He causes arguments and makes it seem like my mother sets me up to dislike him, when my dislike for him is my own dislike. She always says to respect and love my father because unfortunately he is my father, and sadly, we cannot choose our parents, [this is coming from a woman who went through hell and back because of them (dad/grandma).] But, she chose him sadly, so it's all actually her fault. I look like him which makes me feel worse.

    My father, he does disgusting things like ease his body and laugh as if he's a tormented child, damn disgrace. He likes for everyone to hear his nastiness, just a sick person. He also sweeps his teeth every 2 minutes, he has a few rotten teeth he refuses to get taken out probably for the last fifteen years. He's disgusting, he eats his boogers publicly and then tries to touch you, and picks his scabs (not bashing people who do either, I'm sure some people do these things out of habit or some sort of disorder subconsciously: I am just saying what he does and laughs about as he does not seem to have any disorder other than being a damn disgrace) and does other horrible things. He is not kind when speaking about others. He puts others down, how can someone do so everyday? And not see a problem? He has made no progress with his life and I get anxious about my weight/etc because I don't want to be like them, unprogressive, or unaccomplishing. He also just ruins everything with his presence, I know this is negative talk, but please understand that I feel extremely passionate about this because this all makes it worse and makes me feel on edge which makes my problems worse.

    My goal in life is to create beautiful music, evolve and grow musically, sharing my life and sharing the truth of it, through it. I am bound to make art, I want to grow selflessly in my music and create lasting sounds people will hear forever. I admire Nina Simone, her depth, I admire all. When I listen to people like Lauryn Hill, and Amy Winehouse I love the legacy they left behind, just through their music. (Only naming them two because they're of the younger set). I want to experience life, and experience, growth. My dream is to make music and grow with beautiful experiences/people, release albums/art that are married together. I love photography, and want to document my life. My goal is not to have a lavish house, or shop in Soho comfortably at stores I don't need to. I want to defy the odds. I want to enlighten others through my vision and my sound, and I want to learn endlessly. It would be lovely to win awards for my music someday. I once dreamed of winning a noble peace prize but I probably don't sound peaceful right now speaking about my warped family. My dream is to connect to people and expose who I am through my music as the greats, in my eyes, did. So many things along the way. I never particularly dreamed of having a family, maybe when I was a younger girl, I'm still young, but time makes me so anxious now. When I feel this way and am around this I feel like, and am, robbed of my life, and my dreams. I want to move to London, I want to get a record deal so I can perform and make an album and share it to the people. I want that so badly. I hate it here, it hurts my soul. I speak with the universe, I stand outside on Sunny days with my mouth open praying just pass by a butterfly with a surprise message just for me. I believe that amazing things can happen. I want to give back to the world that has formed me, I want to travel the world, I want to see the favelas in brazil and live, I want to climb the hills of Myanmar with the natives. I want to speak Malagasy and dance around the valley of the baobab trees, and write music inspired by who I am, and what I FEEL. Because when I am here? All I feel is damn near depressed and on edge. It's gotten terrible, whenever my nice grandmother speaks to me or calls me, it's like I respond with, "WHAT?!" Although that's not me, when I'm here? That's who I become, sad, angry, and almost expecting bad to happen.

    You know, some of these celebrities, they have no idea who they are, they are not real. That's not my aspiration, to live in glamorous houses and be made up. What I loved about Nina Simone, and so many true artists of the world is that there is no glamour in being a public commodity. I don't want to represent minstrelsy because I am much deeper as a product of a higher source than to live in a matrix. I don't want billions of dollars or to buy airplanes. In fact, I just want to be around creative souls, and feed and give energy and experience. That's all it is, energy. We are just energy, apparently. And when I am here, my energy rivals that of a corpse. I think and think until the day passes me by, and all I seem to look forward to is tomorrow, to see a NEW day, because I yearn for NEW and change.

    I don't have friends anymore. My friends didn't know how to handle a lot of what I was going through. I came back from London two years ago on a high, I was in love with love, and it was then I saw and felt possibilities and transformation, everyone noticed, but them. They held me back, my family, my environment. This town is full of failure and people with no vision, only because they were taught to not have anymore vision, but to live in the visions of others. We all have to use something, whether it be people, or ideas, or energy, etc. to rotate and to get somewhere. I look at people, not just my family because maybe they are normal indeed and this is just me finding myself and my own thoughts/ideas, but they all prefer to be used, and rotated, much like lab rats. Most people's lives in general, including my family, contain, work, sleep, maybe eat for some, repeat, weekend, rest, maybe head out, and let's do it again. That's no life. No joy in their eyes, my family, of their dreams. Their dreams are lost, but they can be found, they just don't think this way.

    I hurt a lot because I feel very misunderstood by others. I miss my three girlfriends, but they moved on without me, and they led me to believe we were still friends when they didn't look at me as one, but yet secluded me at a weak time as a collective instead of being honest. They didn't know how to help anymore, nor is it easy energy to be around, but when I was positive, instead of them enjoying my company, they spoke about how 'fake' or inauthentic I seemed. When in reality, I was neither, they just moved on with eachother, and not me. They had a rocky relationship and fixed it, and in the process, downplayed me.

    There are many things I want to do. I mainly want strength, and happiness. I want health, I want beauty, but not in a superficial sense, beauty is in character and talent, and through music I am able to showcase that. That is my being. I want to see the world and have stories to tell, I want to experience. I want friendship. I want memories, I want to evolve, that is my dream in life, I want to document my growth through my albums.

    This place is a crap hole, it cost a lot of money to get into the city from here, and I love being out, but it gets very lonely sometimes. I want people. I need people. But not just anyone. My friends and I connected because we got the same jokes, same outlooks, but yet different at the same time. We were a great fit, but now I resent them in a way at times, and because I can't move on, I feel worse, and like a loser. No friends. I've never had a boyfriend before either, not that I care, but in a way deep down maybe there is something there, a tiny dot of no clarity. I had a guy friend in London, he was my first kiss, I admire him as an artist as well, as he is too. He had a beautiful outlook on life. I did not worship him, as I worship no man, but I felt very deeply for him as a person because I never believed I'd experience anyone doing anything with me little less kissing me or anything of the sort as I view myself as repulsive and not attractive to men (which is fine because I'm barely attracted to most men based on aesthetic alone. I'm a bit strange because I can respect someone being handsome, but to me men are men, they are who they are, regardless of the way they look someone can be attractive. So I never really fawn over men in greased up photos, in fact that makes me laugh, I don't like overt sexuality with men outright, that makes me feel terrible, unless they are doing something, like showcasing their talent(s)/art. I more so find musicians attractive) Anyway I liked him, probably more than he liked me, he didn't really find me attractive physically, but liked my personality, it was said, and it's a long story. He ended up seeing this girl and telling her I was obsessed with him, which I was but not in a negative way, I respected him rather. She was with him, she told a whole heap of people I was stalking her because of it and was obsessed with her. Girl is a supermodel by the way. He caused a big problem in my life, because he didn't like how I looked. I know, not a big deal, but things like that I internalize not because I desire to be with him, but I internalized it because for some reason how I look makes me feel like a monster and that it may be the cause of my lack of things.
    I try to focus on my art, but just get distracted trying to find an escape. I'd do anything to go back to London or leave here and get my music deal(s), I had opportunities/have opportunities, but I wouldn't take them because of my looks, and no encouragement from my family/the demons that hold me back.

    My mother likes to buy me clothes that make me look ridiculous, they are beautiful clothes, but I just look like a hot mess in them, and they are not my style. I don't care about the clothes I care about the vision. "Fix yourself it'll make you feel better" Yes fixing inside makes one feel better, and being happy to be somewhere does too, not being around people that won't let you grow and move along. She worries about me because in her eyes I am still a child, but how can I grow if you don't allow me to? Leave me alone and go away, or help. She got mad once because I told her to stop fixing my damn blasted winter coat, she was fixing me like I was a baby, and it was annoying, leave me alone man. I'm fine, stop trying to present me and fix yourself. I am grateful for her but these things can really make someone so annoyed. I had independence and my own life was kicking while I was there, but HERE? Lord have mercy please help if you exist. I ask everyday, the sky, in the car, anywhere, "God you know my desires, PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!" And no response, I am stuck with them.

    I want to interact, I want friends, I want LIFE. I'm young, I wanna dance and experience, but this place? Dungeon cell. I practice so much and write so much, but it stifles my creativity and life. I want to enjoy.

    So dealing with my weight on top of this makes me angry. They are the cause of my weight issues because they never encouraged me instead said horrible things. And now they claim I"m too skinny, I feel they are trying to sabotage me and my goals in everyway. They tell me I'm beautiful, but how in the world could I be "beautiful" if I am around their ugly dispositions? Exactly, no way. They make me ugly. I look at most young women, and I feel the have certain pizzazz and essence I don't. I can barely speak to my mom about things like tampons, she says, "Don't try them don't try that stuff it's bad for you" or nonsense. I can't stand them. No growth, they like to stay the same, never change and just be comfortable or content and uncomfortable.

    I work hard to change this, but they suck the energy out of me so it is impossible to see the light near them. I can barely find a place to did gigs around here.

    BUt I will never give up and I am going to get back on it.
  • jtotheno
    jtotheno Posts: 123 Member
    I am 5'7" and my goal weight is 20 lbs higher than your current weight. Your goal weight is sickly for your height. It sounds like you have much deeper issues, please speak to your doctor. I haven't read the other comments, and I'm sure mine is not the first comment like this.
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