Do carbs make you fat?
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Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
Both. And the simple fact that my body is inefficient at processing carbs.0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
I monitor body fat, waist and bellybutton measurements and scale weight. (as well as bust and hip)
The first four all go up when I am eating moderate-high levels of carbs.
Plus I feel less inclined to exercise, hungrier and if there is refined sugar I break out in pimples.0 -
As someone else already said. You cannot get more energy out of something than there is in it. Ever. No hormones can do anything about that.
Then you need to contribute yourself to science for further research since your body defies the laws of physics.Wow
I should clarify a little for me when I say carb I mean bread, pasta, rice, potato etc even whole wheat kinds
I am able to eat most fruits and vegetables and still loose weight
This is just what works for me.
In no way shape or form am I suggesting that I can eat ANY amounts of fat and proteins and lose fat, what I am saying is I DO NOT loose weight if I eat the starchy carbs regardless of how low calorie I go. Not only have I done this in a controlled setting ( using scales, measuring cups and spoons ). I have also done controlled diets such as slim fast and nutrisystem and did not lose weight.
I know what works for me, and was looking to see if people had some similar experiences or further scientific information. So thanks for those that did or at least have an open mind that the general norm or perception may not hold true for everyone.
Not that I should even respond to the negativity but for the record in no way shape or form am I lazy or unable to measure or count calories.
We are not all the same and science is continually evolving. Think of some of the wrong advice we were given by medical professionals just 20-30 years ago. Remember when all fats were evil? Just trying to expand my knowledge and connect with like minded people.
A naturally high insulin level is not really a new thing. Sorry you don't understand basic laws of biology. Seeing as more insulin is produced more quickly from complex carbs (starchy carbs like bread, pasta, rice etc) someone with a higher natural production of insulin, which varies somewhat like all chemicals/hormones from person to person, would have a much harder time losing weight while eating them. They may actually have naturally higher insulin level than you do, meaning complex carbs can ruin their diet.
Also, complex carbs break down and digest more slowly and are harder for the body to process. There's nothing stupid about wanting to avoid complex carbs for dieting and health. Before you make fun of people for defying the "laws of physics" maybe you should do some research, hmm?0 -
Then you need to contribute yourself to science for further research since your body defies the laws of physics.Wow
I should clarify a little for me when I say carb I mean bread, pasta, rice, potato etc even whole wheat kinds
I am able to eat most fruits and vegetables and still loose weight
This is just what works for me.
In no way shape or form am I suggesting that I can eat ANY amounts of fat and proteins and lose fat, what I am saying is I DO NOT loose weight if I eat the starchy carbs regardless of how low calorie I go. Not only have I done this in a controlled setting ( using scales, measuring cups and spoons ). I have also done controlled diets such as slim fast and nutrisystem and did not lose weight.
I know what works for me, and was looking to see if people had some similar experiences or further scientific information. So thanks for those that did or at least have an open mind that the general norm or perception may not hold true for everyone.
Not that I should even respond to the negativity but for the record in no way shape or form am I lazy or unable to measure or count calories.
We are not all the same and science is continually evolving. Think of some of the wrong advice we were given by medical professionals just 20-30 years ago. Remember when all fats were evil? Just trying to expand my knowledge and connect with like minded people.
A naturally high insulin level is not really a new thing. Sorry you don't understand basic laws of biology. Seeing as more insulin is produced more quickly from complex carbs (starchy carbs like bread, pasta, rice etc) someone with a higher natural production of insulin, which varies somewhat like all chemicals/hormones from person to person, would have a much harder time losing weight while eating them. They may actually have naturally higher insulin level than you do, meaning complex carbs can ruin their diet.
Also, complex carbs break down and digest more slowly and are harder for the body to process. There's nothing stupid about wanting to avoid complex carbs for dieting and health. Before you make fun of people for defying the "laws of physics" maybe you should do some research, hmm?
You mean research like the items referenced here?
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Okay, cool.
There's no such thing as insulin resistance, diabetes or PCOS. Those are just myths that fatties made up to excuse themselves. Good to know.
I don't even have a problem with carbs. I LOVE carbs and I love complex starchy carbs a lot. Until I gained weight from a reaction to medication (also clearly fake, right? Lol that can't happen, just a lying fatty) I ate carbs all the time with no issues with my weight. Im saying people process food differently. People are not 100% the same. Chemical levels can affect people differently and it's not like insulin resistance is super rare and unless you actually develop diabetes, many people have no idea they have it.
But no, that's clearly wrong and everyone who has troubles losing weight for one reason or another is a liar. You people are ridiculous. Good for you you're not insulin resistant but quit sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "nah nah nah" because it turns out it's not the same for everyone.0 -
How many times to do you see nah nah nah in a thread; very interesting thread......Hey Hey. . . .nah na nah nah. . . .Hey Hey. . . .0
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Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
Both. And the simple fact that my body is inefficient at processing carbs.
If your body was inefficient at processing carbs that would mean that you get LESS calorically from carbs compared to most people which would mean that eating carbs for you would give you less calories and therefore do the opposite of what you are saying.
Do you mean that you are more efficient at processing carbs?0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
I monitor body fat, waist and bellybutton measurements and scale weight. (as well as bust and hip)
The first four all go up when I am eating moderate-high levels of carbs.
Plus I feel less inclined to exercise, hungrier and if there is refined sugar I break out in pimples.
waist, bellybutton and scale weight could all go up due to the water retention and common issues of constipation related to carb intake. What was the method of determining your bodyfat? If it was a bioelectric impedence scale then that would be thrown off by the water retention associated with carbs as well. If it was a tape measurer that would be innacurate due to the bloating.
I believe that carbs cause water retention in everyone and bloating/constipation in some but I'm very skeptical about fat gain so I'm wondering if anyone had some accurate bodyfat measure like DEXA or a dunk tank.0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
I went by scale weight AND measurements. Mine actually went up when eating high carb and low fat. They went down when I switched to low carb and high fat. I'm sure some of it was from glycogen being depleted, but the rest was fat loss that just wasn't happening on the standard diet.0 -
Wow
I should clarify a little for me when I say carb I mean bread, pasta, rice, potato etc even whole wheat kinds
I am able to eat most fruits and vegetables and still loose weight
This is just what works for me.
In no way shape or form am I suggesting that I can eat ANY amounts of fat and proteins and lose fat, what I am saying is I DO NOT loose weight if I eat the starchy carbs regardless of how low calorie I go. Not only have I done this in a controlled setting ( using scales, measuring cups and spoons ). I have also done controlled diets such as slim fast and nutrisystem and did not lose weight.
I know what works for me, and was looking to see if people had some similar experiences or further scientific information. So thanks for those that did or at least have an open mind that the general norm or perception may not hold true for everyone.
Not that I should even respond to the negativity but for the record in no way shape or form am I lazy or unable to measure or count calories.
We are not all the same and science is continually evolving. Think of some of the wrong advice we were given by medical professionals just 20-30 years ago. Remember when all fats were evil? Just trying to expand my knowledge and connect with like minded people.
If you want to find like minded people, go to the low carb, keto, and/or paleo groups.0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
Well it ain't 34#'s of muscle or water I lost, since cutting carbs to < 20 g a day :laugh:
Since I've been weight training for the last 15 yrs, I expect it was mostly fat =P0 -
People are not 100% the same. Chemical levels can affect people differently and it's not like insulin resistance is super rare and unless you actually develop diabetes, many people have no idea they have it.
This is exactly what happened to me. It took 15 yrs to fully lose enough beta cells to move me from the sub-clinical to the clinical camp. I trained heavy, took classes, spent 5 days a week at the gym, ate low fat/high carb, low meat etc.
Pfft. You wouldn't believe the frustration I had when I first got here & even though I weighed everything, had a very active job (dog walker) worked out etc, still wasn't able to put a dent in my weight....until I happened to go to the doctor for a pain in my tummy.
Casual BG of 260is mg/dl.
Long story short, I ignored the IFIFYM crowd & got with the LCHF Keto & never looked back. 34#'s later, I say, do what works for you :drinker:0 -
No eating makes people fat. Just stop eating.
Unless you are diabetic or pre-diabetic there is no good point in doing low carb.0 -
Yeah, a calorie is a calorie.
It's just a coincidence that when I eat more carbs like bread, pasta, etc..., I start gaining again and when I cut back on them, I lose those extra pounds. It's probably totally because carbs don't fill me up at all so I'm hungry an hour later, so end up eating more. If I stick to mostly fat and protein, I stay satisfied longer and end up eating less total calories over the entire day. I swear I could eat an entire box of cereal or a loaf of bread and still eat a meal afterwards. I have a couple eggs or some full fat cheese and I'm good for most of the day,0 -
I love carbs. I'm not fat.
That is my anecdotal evidence you are wrong.0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
By maintaining a diet of an average of 65/g per day of carbs, over the last year and a half I've lost almost 60 pounds and nearly 80 inches. My body fat has gone from 36% to 27% (using a handheld gadget, not a chart).
I did A LOT of experimenting, tinkering, and researching before finally discovering what worked for my body. If I go over 100 grams of carbs, especially if it's a lot of starchy carbs, I gain weight even if I am eating at a deficit. 1400 calories of high carb and I gain weight. 1400 calories of low carb and I lose weight. Yes, this defies all of what science says but for me it's truth.0 -
Carbs don't make me fat, but a lot of carby foods make me hungry. Food shouldn't make you hungry. It should make you not hungry. Or at least less hungry. T'ain't natural, I tell you.0
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People are not 100% the same. Chemical levels can affect people differently and it's not like insulin resistance is super rare and unless you actually develop diabetes, many people have no idea they have it.
This is exactly what happened to me. It took 15 yrs to fully lose enough beta cells to move me from the sub-clinical to the clinical camp. I trained heavy, took classes, spent 5 days a week at the gym, ate low fat/high carb, low meat etc.
Pfft. You wouldn't believe the frustration I had when I first got here & even though I weighed everything, had a very active job (dog walker) worked out etc, still wasn't able to put a dent in my weight....until I happened to go to the doctor for a pain in my tummy.
Casual BG of 260is mg/dl.
Long story short, I ignored the IFIFYM crowd & got with the LCHF Keto & never looked back. 34#'s later, I say, do what works for you :drinker:
If you are making a point to hit certain numbers on your LCHF Keto, you are practicing IIFYM. IIFYM can be applied to all kinds of eating styles - all it says is to choose foods that allow you to hit your numbers. There is no specific type of food one has to eat to do IIFYM.0 -
People are not 100% the same. Chemical levels can affect people differently and it's not like insulin resistance is super rare and unless you actually develop diabetes, many people have no idea they have it.
This is exactly what happened to me. It took 15 yrs to fully lose enough beta cells to move me from the sub-clinical to the clinical camp. I trained heavy, took classes, spent 5 days a week at the gym, ate low fat/high carb, low meat etc.
Pfft. You wouldn't believe the frustration I had when I first got here & even though I weighed everything, had a very active job (dog walker) worked out etc, still wasn't able to put a dent in my weight....until I happened to go to the doctor for a pain in my tummy.
Casual BG of 260is mg/dl.
Long story short, I ignored the IFIFYM crowd & got with the LCHF Keto & never looked back. 34#'s later, I say, do what works for you :drinker:
If you are making a point to hit certain numbers on your LCHF Keto, you are practicing IIFYM. IIFYM can be applied to all kinds of eating styles - all it says is to choose foods that allow you to hit your numbers. There is no specific type of food one has to eat to do IIFYM.
Maybe I was hasty....the MFP crowd who promotes 'everything in moderation'...if that isn't the IIFYM crowd, then I apologize.
Either way, no moderation for me.
And truth be told, the only numbers I'm trying to hit is < 20 g carb per day, as much fat as I can possibly eat & a bit of protein. Since I'm still losing weight, I'm supposing I'm at a deficit.
To put a finer point on things, I don't count calories, just eliminated all sugar & starch from my diet.0 -
I love carbs. I'm not fat.
That is my anecdotal evidence you are wrong.
I like anecdotal evidence. I am trying to gain weight (bulk). I eat too much carbs. I drink too much beer. I am gaining too little weight. My conclusion is beer is a magical weight loss vehicle.0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
Both. And the simple fact that my body is inefficient at processing carbs.
If your body was inefficient at processing carbs that would mean that you get LESS calorically from carbs compared to most people which would mean that eating carbs for you would give you less calories and therefore do the opposite of what you are saying.
Do you mean that you are more efficient at processing carbs?
You clearly don't know what insulin resistance is.0 -
Just out of curiosity is anyone in the "carbs make me fat" crowd actually monitoring their body composition or just going off scale weight?
Both. And the simple fact that my body is inefficient at processing carbs.
If your body was inefficient at processing carbs that would mean that you get LESS calorically from carbs compared to most people which would mean that eating carbs for you would give you less calories and therefore do the opposite of what you are saying.
Do you mean that you are more efficient at processing carbs?
You clearly don't know what insulin resistance is.
Why are you concluding that?0 -
Hello Meredith
The conventional wisdom out there will drive you nuts..Perhaps some new know how is in order in your case...
Its not carbs thats making you fat...Whats occuring based on your extensive personal experience which will also verify my reply..
Is your body has identified the key resource for unwanted body fat.. That resource is call the Lipolytic ezymne..
The good news is you have great data.. you have an enoromus learning relationship with your body food energy library to pull from.
Whats occuring is this some the type of carbs you eat is allowing tis fat burning enzyme to stimulate production and poytency as well as grow in number. the more food energy you give them the more unwanted body fat deweaponizes..
Notice i did not say calories..These enzymes operate on food value and your proetin number (Pn#) not a calorie calculation. they could care less about the calories you eating as you have witnessed.. they want to know just how much fertilizer is available to conquer and beat back the crab grass of fat. The type of carbs you eat in combination with protein supercharge lypolytic enzymes and other type of cards stripped or not in tandem with protein do little to give these enzyme warriors to go on
Certain foods in combination spawn enormous life force of enzymes that go to work like savages on body fat. So for you you dont wnat to limit carbs if you like them so much.. you want to pair those suspect carbs with the protein amount your body needs to keep the fat cell from getting out of hand.
That way you can eat all the carbs you like while controlling unwanted body fat..
What would work for you immensely is knowing the food frequency formula, creating a food energy plan, and a performing food energy audit..
The first step is to measure your replenishment index (Rpndx%)
No calorie counting or special food limiting...
You will most likely be consuming more carbs with greater lifeforce value..
I love my chips and pasta and breads..I simply a just my protein number to offset low food energy value and bamm I deweaponize fat magnets no sweat..
cardio only 12 to 20 minutes..2 times a week..
as you do not want to become a slave to the process as so many millions are doing using the calorie method.
If you wnat to know how I know all this lets chat.. im here to make fiends0 -
^That sounds like a whole bunch of crap. For starters, where does the energy go that the enzymes would supposedly release when they "go to town" on your fat storages? It can't poof into nothingness and your body has no need for it unless you raise your TDEE.0
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Hello Meredith
The conventional wisdom out there will drive you nuts..Perhaps some new know how is in order in your case...
Its not carbs thats making you fat...Whats occuring based on your extensive personal experience which will also verify my reply..
Is your body has identified the key resource for unwanted body fat.. That resource is call the Lipolytic ezymne..
The good news is you have great data.. you have an enoromus learning relationship with your body food energy library to pull from.
Whats occuring is this some the type of carbs you eat is allowing tis fat burning enzyme to stimulate production and poytency as well as grow in number. the more food energy you give them the more unwanted body fat deweaponizes..
Notice i did not say calories..These enzymes operate on food value and your proetin number (Pn#) not a calorie calculation. they could care less about the calories you eating as you have witnessed.. they want to know just how much fertilizer is available to conquer and beat back the crab grass of fat. The type of carbs you eat in combination with protein supercharge lypolytic enzymes and other type of cards stripped or not in tandem with protein do little to give these enzyme warriors to go on
Certain foods in combination spawn enormous life force of enzymes that go to work like savages on body fat. So for you you dont wnat to limit carbs if you like them so much.. you want to pair those suspect carbs with the protein amount your body needs to keep the fat cell from getting out of hand.
That way you can eat all the carbs you like while controlling unwanted body fat..
What would work for you immensely is knowing the food frequency formula, creating a food energy plan, and a performing food energy audit..
The first step is to measure your replenishment index (Rpndx%)
No calorie counting or special food limiting...
You will most likely be consuming more carbs with greater lifeforce value..
I love my chips and pasta and breads..I simply a just my protein number to offset low food energy value and bamm I deweaponize fat magnets no sweat..
cardio only 12 to 20 minutes..2 times a week..
as you do not want to become a slave to the process as so many millions are doing using the calorie method.
If you wnat to know how I know all this lets chat.. im here to make fiends
LOL wut?0 -
Carbs don't make me fat, but a lot of carby foods make me hungry. Food shouldn't make you hungry. It should make you not hungry. Or at least less hungry. T'ain't natural, I tell you.
This is my main issue with carbs. Sugars and starches make me hungry for more sugars and starches. That exactly matches the pattern that got most of us here and to do something about it and lose that extra weight. Calorie deficits will drop those pounds, but going back to a low fat high carb diet without always counting calories will just repeat the same familiar weight gain cycle. Cut the carbs and eat more fat and you break that cycle of overeating because you're always hungry.0 -
Hello Meredith
The conventional wisdom out there will drive you nuts..Perhaps some new know how is in order in your case...
Its not carbs thats making you fat...Whats occuring based on your extensive personal experience which will also verify my reply..
Is your body has identified the key resource for unwanted body fat.. That resource is call the Lipolytic ezymne..
The good news is you have great data.. you have an enoromus learning relationship with your body food energy library to pull from.
Whats occuring is this some the type of carbs you eat is allowing tis fat burning enzyme to stimulate production and poytency as well as grow in number. the more food energy you give them the more unwanted body fat deweaponizes..
Notice i did not say calories..These enzymes operate on food value and your proetin number (Pn#) not a calorie calculation. they could care less about the calories you eating as you have witnessed.. they want to know just how much fertilizer is available to conquer and beat back the crab grass of fat. The type of carbs you eat in combination with protein supercharge lypolytic enzymes and other type of cards stripped or not in tandem with protein do little to give these enzyme warriors to go on
Certain foods in combination spawn enormous life force of enzymes that go to work like savages on body fat. So for you you dont wnat to limit carbs if you like them so much.. you want to pair those suspect carbs with the protein amount your body needs to keep the fat cell from getting out of hand.
That way you can eat all the carbs you like while controlling unwanted body fat..
What would work for you immensely is knowing the food frequency formula, creating a food energy plan, and a performing food energy audit..
The first step is to measure your replenishment index (Rpndx%)
No calorie counting or special food limiting...
You will most likely be consuming more carbs with greater lifeforce value..
I love my chips and pasta and breads..I simply a just my protein number to offset low food energy value and bamm I deweaponize fat magnets no sweat..
cardio only 12 to 20 minutes..2 times a week..
as you do not want to become a slave to the process as so many millions are doing using the calorie method.
If you wnat to know how I know all this lets chat.. im here to make fiends
Oh, I thought the magic protein # gave you a life force energy that made you rip your clothes off?
So now our magic protein # AND replenishment index need to be in check for effortless weight loss?
Please, just take my money!
I don't even want to question this logic.
I'm sure whatever your selling is the golden ticket based on this clear logic!0 -
Hello Meredith
The conventional wisdom out there will drive you nuts..Perhaps some new know how is in order in your case...
Its not carbs thats making you fat...Whats occuring based on your extensive personal experience which will also verify my reply..
Is your body has identified the key resource for unwanted body fat.. That resource is call the Lipolytic ezymne..
The good news is you have great data.. you have an enoromus learning relationship with your body food energy library to pull from.
Whats occuring is this some the type of carbs you eat is allowing tis fat burning enzyme to stimulate production and poytency as well as grow in number. the more food energy you give them the more unwanted body fat deweaponizes..
Notice i did not say calories..These enzymes operate on food value and your proetin number (Pn#) not a calorie calculation. they could care less about the calories you eating as you have witnessed.. they want to know just how much fertilizer is available to conquer and beat back the crab grass of fat. The type of carbs you eat in combination with protein supercharge lypolytic enzymes and other type of cards stripped or not in tandem with protein do little to give these enzyme warriors to go on
Certain foods in combination spawn enormous life force of enzymes that go to work like savages on body fat. So for you you dont wnat to limit carbs if you like them so much.. you want to pair those suspect carbs with the protein amount your body needs to keep the fat cell from getting out of hand.
That way you can eat all the carbs you like while controlling unwanted body fat..
What would work for you immensely is knowing the food frequency formula, creating a food energy plan, and a performing food energy audit..
The first step is to measure your replenishment index (Rpndx%)
No calorie counting or special food limiting...
You will most likely be consuming more carbs with greater lifeforce value..
I love my chips and pasta and breads..I simply a just my protein number to offset low food energy value and bamm I deweaponize fat magnets no sweat..
cardio only 12 to 20 minutes..2 times a week..
as you do not want to become a slave to the process as so many millions are doing using the calorie method.
If you wnat to know how I know all this lets chat.. im here to make fiends
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yes, every crab you ever consume will make you fat.0
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Hello Meredith
The conventional wisdom out there will drive you nuts..Perhaps some new know how is in order in your case...
Its not carbs thats making you fat...Whats occuring based on your extensive personal experience which will also verify my reply..
Is your body has identified the key resource for unwanted body fat.. That resource is call the Lipolytic ezymne..
The good news is you have great data.. you have an enoromus learning relationship with your body food energy library to pull from.
Whats occuring is this some the type of carbs you eat is allowing tis fat burning enzyme to stimulate production and poytency as well as grow in number. the more food energy you give them the more unwanted body fat deweaponizes..
Notice i did not say calories..These enzymes operate on food value and your proetin number (Pn#) not a calorie calculation. they could care less about the calories you eating as you have witnessed.. they want to know just how much fertilizer is available to conquer and beat back the crab grass of fat. The type of carbs you eat in combination with protein supercharge lypolytic enzymes and other type of cards stripped or not in tandem with protein do little to give these enzyme warriors to go on
Certain foods in combination spawn enormous life force of enzymes that go to work like savages on body fat. So for you you dont wnat to limit carbs if you like them so much.. you want to pair those suspect carbs with the protein amount your body needs to keep the fat cell from getting out of hand.
That way you can eat all the carbs you like while controlling unwanted body fat..
What would work for you immensely is knowing the food frequency formula, creating a food energy plan, and a performing food energy audit..
The first step is to measure your replenishment index (Rpndx%)
No calorie counting or special food limiting...
You will most likely be consuming more carbs with greater lifeforce value..
I love my chips and pasta and breads..I simply a just my protein number to offset low food energy value and bamm I deweaponize fat magnets no sweat..
cardio only 12 to 20 minutes..2 times a week..
as you do not want to become a slave to the process as so many millions are doing using the calorie method.
If you wnat to know how I know all this lets chat.. im here to make fiends
How incredibly devilish of you.
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LOLLL right0
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