a rant about sports fans
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As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
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So only people who attended a university or donates to it are allowed to be fans?:huh:
Oh, sure, they can be fans. But if they are not invested in the team in some way, what right do they have to demand anything? Kind of like being a citizen of your country, and complaining about the government if you do not even vote.
I disagree, if you're a fan of a college team and you buy merch or tix to games you're certainly financially supporting the team.
^^exactly.
What kind of investment into a team are you talking about? If i pay $100 for a ticket, $20 to park, $30 on 3 beers, $100 on a jersey then I am invested. It's not the same as complaining about politicians if you're not a voter. And on a side note, just because you don't vote doesn't mean you're not a citizen of a country and you still have the right to be critical of the decisions your government makes.0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
So only people who attended a university or donates to it are allowed to be fans?:huh:
Oh, sure, they can be fans. But if they are not invested in the team in some way, what right do they have to demand anything? Kind of like being a citizen of your country, and complaining about the government if you do not even vote.
I disagree, if you're a fan of a college team and you buy merch or tix to games you're certainly financially supporting the team.
Yep. If you go to the games, support the teams financially, I agree.... but if you just buy a shirt in Walmart that says "Go Dawgs", and that shirt was made in South Korea with cotton imported fromo Bangladesh and screen printing from the People's Republic., and never go to the games and buy the team merch.......that really is not an investment in the team.
actually, if you buy it in walmart, regardless of where its made, the money kicks back to the school.0 -
i am an eagles fan and recently re-watched our 2004 SUper Bowl loss that was on at a bar and the game was driving me nuts. Now i know it was 10 years ago and I cant change the past, but as a sports fan im 97% insane lol.
Your only mistake...is being an Eagles fan...:laugh:
wow, are we letting cowboys or giants fans in this thread?0 -
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You obviously don't live in Alabama - you are invested in a team just by being born here. :laugh:
So, are you invested in the Tide, or War Eagle?
I lived in Alabama for a while....War Eagle all the way.
But I am grossly invested in Auburn, so I can fuss if I want to. But I don't, I just cheer, and flash my boobs when they do something great......
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Couple things...
1) For the most part I agree with you, my least favorite is, "That is unacceptable" like they as a consumer need to be given reparations because they are so disappointed in the performance
2) Fan is short for fanatic for a reason 0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
So only people who attended a university or donates to it are allowed to be fans?:huh:
Oh, sure, they can be fans. But if they are not invested in the team in some way, what right do they have to demand anything? Kind of like being a citizen of your country, and complaining about the government if you do not even vote.
I disagree, if you're a fan of a college team and you buy merch or tix to games you're certainly financially supporting the team.
Yep. If you go to the games, support the teams financially, I agree.... but if you just buy a shirt in Walmart that says "Go Dawgs", and that shirt was made in South Korea with cotton imported fromo Bangladesh and screen printing from the People's Republic., and never go to the games and buy the team merch.......that really is not an investment in the team.
So now we have to search out and buy products of your team that are made in America? Good luck with that.
You have to go to a game to be a fan? What if you're from GA, live in California but you're a Dawgs fan? To be critical of a team now that person has to fly out to Athens every Saturday and pay a *kitten* ton of money to watch a game? You do know that they are broadcast in HD on tv right?
Still not following the logic here.0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
So only people who attended a university or donates to it are allowed to be fans?:huh:
Oh, sure, they can be fans. But if they are not invested in the team in some way, what right do they have to demand anything? Kind of like being a citizen of your country, and complaining about the government if you do not even vote.
I disagree, if you're a fan of a college team and you buy merch or tix to games you're certainly financially supporting the team.
Yep. If you go to the games, support the teams financially, I agree.... but if you just buy a shirt in Walmart that says "Go Dawgs", and that shirt was made in South Korea with cotton imported fromo Bangladesh and screen printing from the People's Republic., and never go to the games and buy the team merch.......that really is not an investment in the team.
actually, if you buy it in walmart, regardless of where its made, the money kicks back to the school.
Maybe a little bit.....but 5% of a $8.00 shirt is not like going to the university bookstore and buying a hoodie, or even a T-shirt. Yeah, they are a lot more expensive, but better quality...and in buying there at the school, from the school, they are getting a greater benefit.
Fact is, anyone has the right to holler and complain and say what they want. But they really have not earned the right to be taken seriously by the school and the administration if they do not have a real investment in the establishment.0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
So only people who attended a university or donates to it are allowed to be fans?:huh:
Oh, sure, they can be fans. But if they are not invested in the team in some way, what right do they have to demand anything? Kind of like being a citizen of your country, and complaining about the government if you do not even vote.
I disagree, if you're a fan of a college team and you buy merch or tix to games you're certainly financially supporting the team.
Yep. If you go to the games, support the teams financially, I agree.... but if you just buy a shirt in Walmart that says "Go Dawgs", and that shirt was made in South Korea with cotton imported fromo Bangladesh and screen printing from the People's Republic., and never go to the games and buy the team merch.......that really is not an investment in the team.
actually, if you buy it in walmart, regardless of where its made, the money kicks back to the school.
Maybe a little bit.....but 5% of a $8.00 shirt is not like going to the university bookstore and buying a hoodie, or even a T-shirt. Yeah, they are a lot more expensive, but better quality...and in buying there at the school, from the school, they are getting a greater benefit.
Fact is, anyone has the right to holler and complain and say what they want. But they really have not earned the right to be taken seriously by the school and the administration if they do not have a real investment in the establishment.
Go Tigers!!!0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
This is up there with one of the snobbiest things I've ever read.
I didn't go to college because neither my parents nor I could afford even a community college, let alone a major University. So you're saying that even though I pay damned good money for tickets to University of Texas football games, I'm a "sidewalk fan" and am therefore unable to have an opinion?
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OP, people talk a lot of s*it during games, and of course they can't play better. There's even a name for it: armchair quarterbacking. It's just part of the culture of sports in general.
If you pay good money for tickets, you are not a sidewalk fan. However, alumni of a school have more of a relationship and investment with the school and it's reputation as opposed to just sports fans. That's why many alums are frustrated when they see the drunk guy at a tailgate who never finished high school talking s*** to visitors from other teams.0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
So only people who attended a university or donates to it are allowed to be fans?:huh:
Oh, sure, they can be fans. But if they are not invested in the team in some way, what right do they have to demand anything? Kind of like being a citizen of your country, and complaining about the government if you do not even vote.
I disagree, if you're a fan of a college team and you buy merch or tix to games you're certainly financially supporting the team.
Yep. If you go to the games, support the teams financially, I agree.... but if you just buy a shirt in Walmart that says "Go Dawgs", and that shirt was made in South Korea with cotton imported fromo Bangladesh and screen printing from the People's Republic., and never go to the games and buy the team merch.......that really is not an investment in the team.
actually, if you buy it in walmart, regardless of where its made, the money kicks back to the school.
Maybe a little bit.....but 5% of a $8.00 shirt is not like going to the university bookstore and buying a hoodie, or even a T-shirt. Yeah, they are a lot more expensive, but better quality...and in buying there at the school, from the school, they are getting a greater benefit.
Fact is, anyone has the right to holler and complain and say what they want. But they really have not earned the right to be taken seriously by the school and the administration if they do not have a real investment in the establishment.
Still not following the logic here. Real investment?0 -
You obviously don't live in Alabama - you are invested in a team just by being born here. :laugh:
So, are you invested in the Tide, or War Eagle?
I lived in Alabama for a while....War Eagle all the way.
But I am grossly invested in Auburn, so I can fuss if I want to. But I don't, I just cheer, and flash my boobs when they do something great......
LOL Actually I'm transplanted and I'm invested in Texas A&M. Though I've been known to yell Roll Tide.0 -
So now we have to search out and buy products of your team that are made in America?
Nope, not saying they have to be made in America. I am just saying that if you are a fan, you should seek out ways to financially support the school or team that you love. Buy your gear from the team website, or the school bookstore. Go to the games if you can....buy the beer and concessions, get season tickets, subscribe to the network that carries your team's games...whatever you can do to support the school.
Fans who do not support their teams in some manner still have the right to scream and holler.....they just should not expect to be taken seriously by anyone in the organization who has a say-so.0 -
Brett Favre used to have a commercial where he went around to all these different places telling people how to do their jobs...i know he went to a barber and i think like a mechanic. I loved it...0
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I understand that some people can get really into a game, but what really irks me is that some fans complain about actions that they couldn't possibly do better if they were in that scenario. Example: the blocked penalty kick. Everyone was screaming "How could you miss that?!?!" I dunno, maybe because the other team was good? Maybe because the players are freaking exhausted? Maybe because crap happens? But everyone that was yelling was severely out of shape and acted like if they were in the game that America would have dominated.
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So now we have to search out and buy products of your team that are made in America?
Nope, not saying they have to be made in America. I am just saying that if you are a fan, you should seek out ways to financially support the school or team that you love. Buy your gear from the team website, or the school bookstore. Go to the games if you can....buy the beer and concessions, get season tickets, subscribe to the network that carries your team's games...whatever you can do to support the school.
Fans who do not support their teams in some manner still have the right to scream and holler.....they just should not expect to be taken seriously by anyone in the organization who has a say-so.
I really don't think Joe Somebody yelling at the players or at his tv really cares if anyone in the organization takes him seriously. He's still a fan and gets excited when his team wins and disappointed when they lose (unless you're a Cleveland fan then you expect to lose). So what if he bought his team gear at Wal-Mart or wherever, he still wears it with pride and has every right to be critical of the team that he not only financially invested in (although very little) but also emotionally invested in. That's what being a FANatic is all about.0 -
As someone who follows college sports, my biggest pet peeve is sidewalk, t-shirt fans (ie. people who did not attend the university or do not donate to the school) demanding excellence, calling for firings of coaches, or trashing recruits when they decide to attend another college.
End rant.
This is up there with one of the snobbiest things I've ever read.
I didn't go to college because neither my parents nor I could afford even a community college, let alone a major University. So you're saying that even though I pay damned good money for tickets to University of Texas football games, I'm a "sidewalk fan" and am therefore unable to have an opinion?
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OP, people talk a lot of s*it during games, and of course they can't play better. There's even a name for it: armchair quarterbacking. It's just part of the culture of sports in general.
This. All of this.0 -
I understand that some people can get really into a game, but what really irks me is that some fans complain about actions that they couldn't possibly do better if they were in that scenario. Example: the blocked penalty kick. Everyone was screaming "How could you miss that?!?!" I dunno, maybe because the other team was good? Maybe because the players are freaking exhausted? Maybe because crap happens? But everyone that was yelling was severely out of shape and acted like if they were in the game that America would have dominated.
End rant.
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If you buy a t shirt and "demand success from your team and refuse to give in to the others who have a loser mentality and accept mediocrity" but have no idea where to locate the commons or rec center, you're basically a tourist when you're on campus. Be nice and stay out of the way, and be aware that nobody needs your ideas on how to run the place0
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I understand that some people can get really into a game, but what really irks me is that some fans complain about actions that they couldn't possibly do better if they were in that scenario. Example: the blocked penalty kick. Everyone was screaming "How could you miss that?!?!" I dunno, maybe because the other team was good? Maybe because the players are freaking exhausted? Maybe because crap happens? But everyone that was yelling was severely out of shape and acted like if they were in the game that America would have dominated.
End rant.
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If you buy a t shirt and "demand success from your team and refuse to give in to the others who have a loser mentality and accept mediocrity" but have no idea where to locate the commons or rec center, you're basically a tourist when you're on campus. Be nice and stay out of the way, and be aware that nobody needs your ideas on how to run the place
very much disagree. THis is pure snobbery imo.0 -
i am an eagles fan and recently re-watched our 2004 SUper Bowl loss that was on at a bar and the game was driving me nuts. Now i know it was 10 years ago and I cant change the past, but as a sports fan im 97% insane lol.
Made the mistake of going to a bar when u of l and u of k played each other...I live in Kentucky.
Were you in blue or red?0 -
I understand that some people can get really into a game, but what really irks me is that some fans complain about actions that they couldn't possibly do better if they were in that scenario. Example: the blocked penalty kick. Everyone was screaming "How could you miss that?!?!" I dunno, maybe because the other team was good? Maybe because the players are freaking exhausted? Maybe because crap happens? But everyone that was yelling was severely out of shape and acted like if they were in the game that America would have dominated.
End rant.
I disagree. I consider myself a thinking fan for some sports (of course, not all or even many). I played volleyball, baseball, soccer and fencing in university. My grandfather was a reasonably successful soccer coach and I was raised to understand the game.
When watching a game, some people have commented that it's interesting that I keep seeing the periphery of the game, the moves without the ball, the shape and motions. That interests me more than whether the striker hit the ground and then the ball and then shanked the shot. Crap happens - it's sports. For me it's the process to get there that's fascinating, and the mental game.
So when I say "x player was bad for these reasons" I am not comparing it to myself, or another fat couch potato weekend warrior. I'm comparing it to his peers. Saying "Bedoya was terrible at holding possession during the US game" doesn't mean I would do better, but it does mean I think Klinsmann should have subbed Green sooner for a fresher look and fresher legs. And it's a perfectly valid (if debatable) argument.0 -
I live in Kentucky as well and the UK / UofL rivaly is passionate. Its especially crazy since both teams have been doing so well for so long now.0
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If you buy a t shirt and "demand success from your team and refuse to give in to the others who have a loser mentality and accept mediocrity" but have no idea where to locate the commons or rec center, you're basically a tourist when you're on campus. Be nice and stay out of the way, and be aware that nobody needs your ideas on how to run the place
Still missing the logic. Now we have to have an intimate relationship with the campus? I have to know where the mess hall is to be a real fan? I'm guessing by your responses that you are a fan who donates to the school? Maybe you only buy your gear from the school bookstore (which you know where the bookstore is because you're a "real" fan)? So, being that you are a "real" fan what makes you think that anyone at the school or sports department care about your opinion? Do they survey you for your opinions on running a nickel or dime package on defense? Do they ask you if the women's basketball team should attempt to run a triangle offense? News flash to those of you who think you're "real" fans because you "invest" in the school, if you're not donating millions of dollars on an annual basis they don't care what you think.0 -
I had no idea that wasn't the norm until I moved to CA.
The Aggies were playing, so I invited a few friends to watch the game, because if I couldn't actually go, I wanted to have a party. I got really into the game, because I'm a former student and I grew up in an Aggie family.. so it's kinda what I do. My friends were all shocked that I could be loud, because I'm usually pretty reserved.
Most of the time, I don't realize it, because I'm engrossed in the game, and it's what I grew up around.0 -
Most people have never played competitively in sports they like, or maybe even played at all. They don't understand the mental part of the game that has effect on performance, and just thinking everything is easy and routine, when easy and routine is usually the hardest.0
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If you buy a t shirt and "demand success from your team and refuse to give in to the others who have a loser mentality and accept mediocrity" but have no idea where to locate the commons or rec center, you're basically a tourist when you're on campus. Be nice and stay out of the way, and be aware that nobody needs your ideas on how to run the place
Still missing the logic. Now we have to have an intimate relationship with the campus? I have to know where the mess hall is to be a real fan? I'm guessing by your responses that you are a fan who donates to the school? Maybe you only buy your gear from the school bookstore (which you know where the bookstore is because you're a "real" fan)? So, being that you are a "real" fan what makes you think that anyone at the school or sports department care about your opinion? Do they survey you for your opinions on running a nickel or dime package on defense? Do they ask you if the women's basketball team should attempt to run a triangle offense? News flash to those of you who think you're "real" fans because you "invest" in the school, if you're not donating millions of dollars on an annual basis they don't care what you think.
In my opinion, you're either an alumnus, booster, a student, or a tourist. Neither is necessarily bad, but a lot of tourists get a little butthurt when they're put in their place.
Just my opinion0 -
If you buy a t shirt and "demand success from your team and refuse to give in to the others who have a loser mentality and accept mediocrity" but have no idea where to locate the commons or rec center, you're basically a tourist when you're on campus. Be nice and stay out of the way, and be aware that nobody needs your ideas on how to run the place
Still missing the logic. Now we have to have an intimate relationship with the campus? I have to know where the mess hall is to be a real fan? I'm guessing by your responses that you are a fan who donates to the school? Maybe you only buy your gear from the school bookstore (which you know where the bookstore is because you're a "real" fan)? So, being that you are a "real" fan what makes you think that anyone at the school or sports department care about your opinion? Do they survey you for your opinions on running a nickel or dime package on defense? Do they ask you if the women's basketball team should attempt to run a triangle offense? News flash to those of you who think you're "real" fans because you "invest" in the school, if you're not donating millions of dollars on an annual basis they don't care what you think.
In my opinion, you're either an alumnus, booster, a student, or a tourist. Neither is necessarily bad, but a lot of tourists get a little butthurt when they're put in their place.
Just my opinion
"put in their place" no thats not snobbery at all.0
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