Thyroid RANT
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You are very lucky that you were able to lose weight with a non-functioning thyroid.
Not everyone is so lucky.
I spent many years trying to tell doctors I didn't eat too much and did exercise, but couldn't lose weight. I saw the looks on people's faces that I'm sure you have when they tell you that. People did not believe me. It was frustrating and depressing.
I definitely can relate to the years spent trying to explain to doctors that there was something wrong. It's such an ostracizing feeling when people don't believe your struggle. For me it wasn't just the weight gain, I lost a lot of hair, and my energy levels were pitiful (I often fell asleep immediately after dinner because I was experiencing such significant fatigue).
I think at the end of the day we can all accept that we're each on our own journey, and it's very likely that our struggles are not the same. I took this original post in a motivating way; that there's hope and no matter how impossible it may feel there is indeed light at the end of the tunnel.0 -
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It wasn't an excuse. It was a fact.You are very lucky that you were able to lose weight with a non-functioning thyroid.
Not everyone is so lucky.
I spent many years trying to tell doctors I didn't eat too much and did exercise, but couldn't lose weight. I saw the looks on people's faces that I'm sure you have when they tell you that. People did not believe me. It was frustrating and depressing.
When my miracle happened and I was diagnosed, it was to the doctor, to the endo, to the cardiologist (I had trouble breathing, so needed cardiac clearance), and surgery. All of them saw me (as a new patient!) very quickly, because each office called the next and said, "She needs this surgery now." It was less than a month - I think it was 18 days total from the possibility of a diagnosis to surgery.
I couldn't exercise because I couldn't breathe well enough because my thyroid was strangling me. I couldn't even get up a flight of stairs without a break.
I was choking all the time. I had coughing fits that would lead to a total inability to breathe. Scared the hell out of my family. I'd wake up at night, panicked because I couldn't breathe.
I ate a LOT of carbs toward the end there, because if had NO energy and I craved them like a starving person craves food.
I'm happy for you that you're able to lose weight. I really, very much am happy for you and everyone else who succeeds.
But do remember that other people might have different and even bigger problems than you do before you start yelling about them and how lazy they are.
Your situation is extreme and does not apply to the "I cant lose weight because of my thyroid" group.
Sorry you had to go through that however, it does not sway my feelings on the subject.
I dont buy into sickness as an excuse, you are talking to someone who has survived a tumor and brain anuerism and a thyroid condition...all in the same year.
I empathize with the struggles of illness, but it is not my excuse or lifestyle.
So again, sorry you had to go through that, next question, now that you know what are you doing now?
Lay off people who have problems. Fix yourself. Fix whatever is wrong with you that causes you to go online and yell at people whose lives are already rough. Whatever it is about you that is making you want to set yourself up as better...to the point that you must start a thread announcing how much better you are than other people...work on it.
Use your "No excuses" line on yourself. Fix whatever it is that makes you feel so low that you have to start threads putting other people down.
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We all get that.What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.
make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.
And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.
The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.
Ta. So much nicer than how u started the post.
It wasnt ment to be "nice" or helpful, hence the capitolized "RANT" title
The question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?0 -
No one has to go it alone. Read the groups and (just as with the advice in this thread) take what you need & leave the rest.0 -
What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.
make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.
And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.
The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.
Either that or you'll consume your limited supplies of bio-available iodine and go into myxedema coma.
MY advice if you have or suspect you have a thyroid disorder is *get treated*. TREATED thyroid disorders have no effect on lifespan. UNTREATED THYROID DISORDERS CAN KILL YOU.
I have "subclinical hypothyroidism", which means only my TSH is out of spec.
I had a family practice doc tell me I was "just telling me symptoms trying to get thyroxine because you want to lose weight", despite having muscle cramps, losing my coarse hair, losing the outer half of my eyebrows, having heavy and thick looking skin, lack of energy, "brain fog", and a resting heart rate of 50. How the hell am I supposed to "fake" a resting heart rate of 50? My TSH and T4 were within her (outdated) guidelines--and she was ignoring the last line of the list which was "unless the patient is symptomatic". The <insert profanity here> HID my bad TSH number from me for 2 years--I only learned of it when she slipped and revealed it while going over my (rising but marginally in-spec) cholesterol numbers. (rising cholesterol is *also* a symptom of hypothyroidism)
I switched to a new doc and got diagnosis and treatment on my first visit.
Now my numbers are in spec--including my cholesterol & triglycerides going back to the bottom of the normal range, as they had been before I developed thyroid problems. My resting heart rate remains low at around 62, suggesting that I may be mildly hypothyroid despite normal numbers--but now I can function after effectively losing several years of my life to feeling every day the way most people might feel the day after they fell off a roof or something.
Thyroid hormone is the *only* way for your body to transport iodine to your cells. Without it, no matter how much iodine is in your diet, your cells are starved for it--malnourished. I suspect this may be why hypothyroid people feel hungry--since cells are starving for iodine, they probably signal the body to eat more iodine, which under ordinary conditions would mean eat more stuff preferably containing iodine. But no matter how much you eat, without thyroid hormone that iodine can never get to the cells, so they remain hungry and calling for you to eat more.
Iodine is also essential to actin and myosin in muscles being able to un-clasp so that your muscles can relax and lengthen again after contracting to do work. It's easy to imagine how this could lead to muscle aches--but also illustrates how heavy exercise with untreated hypothyroidism could drive a person to a medical crisis if they depleted all their muscles' limited local supply of iodine.
Your irritation with people using thyroid disorders as an explanation of their weight gain or weight-loss difficulty reveals you really don't understand thyroid disorders. Your own personal experience doesn't necessarily reflect the situation of everyone with a similar condition.
In my opinion it is mean of you to fault others as having a character flaw/lack of willpower because their disease affects them more seriously than your disease affected you. There is no reason to make people who feel bad and demotivated feel even worse and more demotivated.
Thyroid disorders are medically treatable and not a character flaw. Meanness, on the other hand...a little introspection might be of use to you.0 -
you rant, and others "blame"...this is what a forum is for, right? When people are frustrated they just need find an outlet...
I will skip the posts I don't like to read...and reply to those where I might have a thing or 2 to contribute...
Hoestly, I find this kind of "fitness/weight loss" forums sometimes full of "angry messages"...maybe eating more food might help?0 -
saying thisWe all get that.
and then this
in the same post makes absolutely zero senseThe question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?0 -
Yeah I'm not too sure how this thread devolved. Im pretty sure OP stated she has thyroid issues and was just saying it is in fact possible to lose weight even with thyroid issues. People need to stop jumping up and down. Its friday. Everyone needs to chillax a bit.
I am lucky that I have a functioning thyroid but I have other medical conditions that impact my ability to lose weight. That being said it is possible just slower than most. Slow is good. Slow is sustainiable.
Anyway. Happy friday!0 -
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OP, I have the opposite problem--hyperthyroid. I was so worried about gaining weight when put on medication but with counting calories and exercising I have it under control. You're right, it can be done. But first people need to get their thyroid under control and THEN they can work on their weight.0
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Yeah I'm not too sure how this thread devolved. Im pretty sure OP stated she has thyroid issues and was just saying it is in fact possible to lose weight even with thyroid issues. People need to stop jumping up and down. Its friday. Everyone needs to chillax a bit.
I am lucky that I have a functioning thyroid but I have other medical conditions that impact my ability to lose weight. That being said it is possible just slower than most. Slow is good. Slow is sustainiable.
Anyway. Happy friday!
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She said she wasn't trying to be nice, but was ranting.saying thisWe all get that.
and then this
in the same post makes absolutely zero senseThe question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?
Why? Why does she feel the need to rant?
What causes the inadequacy that leads to starting threads announcing that she is better than others?
Something is wrong there. There is a reason she felt she had to that.
Deep down, she doesn't feel as good as other people. She has an anger. She needs to strike out, but can't do it in real life and so began a thread to put other people down on the Internet. She is trying to make herself feel better. She thinks that by being nasty to others and announcing how great she is, that she will feel better. And it works for a bit.
But something is wrong. She needs to address whatever makes her feel inadequate in the first place. Then she will be a happier person and not need to start threads that pick on people with medical issues just to make her out to be better. Because she won't feel, deep down, like she's worse.
Maybe therapy?0 -
OP, I have the opposite problem--hyperthyroid. I was so worried about gaining weight when put on medication but with counting calories and exercising I have it under control. You're right, it can be done. But first people need to get their thyroid under control and THEN they can work on their weight.
I thought hyperthyroid makes some lose weight quickly although they constantly feel hungry？0 -
She said she wasn't trying to be nice, but was ranting.saying thisWe all get that.
and then this
in the same post makes absolutely zero senseThe question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?
Why? Why does she feel the need to rant?
What causes the inadequacy that leads to starting threads announcing that she is better than others?
Something is wrong there. There is a reason she felt she had to that.
Deep down, she doesn't feel as good as other people. She has an anger. She needs to strike out, but can't do it in real life and so began a thread to put other people down on the Internet. She is trying to make herself feel better. She thinks that by being nasty to others and announcing how great she is, that she will feel better. And it works for a bit.
But something is wrong. She needs to address whatever makes her feel inadequate in the first place. Then swill be a happier person and not need to start threads that pick on people with medical issues just to make her out to be better. Because she won't feel, deep down, like she's worse.
Maybe therapy?
Dude. Chill. OP said she has thyroid issues. She gets it. How is what your saying any help to anyone. You are pissed because you feel she is being mean to people with medical issues so you call her "swill" and "inadequate"? thats pretty screwed up.0 -
or you're reading way too much into this because OP made a post that you didnt like. people have to rant sometimes.
She said she wasn't trying to be nice, but was ranting.saying thisWe all get that.
and then this
in the same post makes absolutely zero senseThe question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?
Why? Why does she feel the need to rant?
What causes the inadequacy that leads to starting threads announcing that she is better than others?
Something is wrong there. There is a reason she felt she had to that.
Deep down, she doesn't feel as good as other people. She has an anger. She needs to strike out, but can't do it in real life and so began a thread to put other people down on the Internet. She is trying to make herself feel better. She thinks that by being nasty to others and announcing how great she is, that she will feel better. And it works for a bit.
But something is wrong. She needs to address whatever makes her feel inadequate in the first place. Then swill be a happier person and not need to start threads that pick on people with medical issues just to make her out to be better. Because she won't feel, deep down, like she's worse.
Maybe therapy?0 -
Throughout the years I have learned slowly not to judge others just based on the face value...I don't know them and their lives. So maybe some of the "blame" posts are just another type of "ranting", not necessarily meaning they have given up? I know I rant a lot with my friends about my weight loss stuggle but I know I haven't give it up and won't give it up...
Just a thought.0 -
That wasn't supposed to be "swill". It was supposed to be "she will." iPad. Sorry.
She said she wasn't trying to be nice, but was ranting.saying thisWe all get that.
and then this
in the same post makes absolutely zero senseThe question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?
Why? Why does she feel the need to rant?
What causes the inadequacy that leads to starting threads announcing that she is better than others?
Something is wrong there. There is a reason she felt she had to that.
Deep down, she doesn't feel as good as other people. She has an anger. She needs to strike out, but can't do it in real life and so began a thread to put other people down on the Internet. She is trying to make herself feel better. She thinks that by being nasty to others and announcing how great she is, that she will feel better. And it works for a bit.
But something is wrong. She needs to address whatever makes her feel inadequate in the first place. Then swill be a happier person and not need to start threads that pick on people with medical issues just to make her out to be better. Because she won't feel, deep down, like she's worse.
Maybe therapy?
Dude. Chill. OP said she has thyroid issues. She gets it. How is what your saying any help to anyone. You are pissed because you feel she is being mean to people with medical issues so you call her "swill" and "inadequate"? thats pretty screwed up.
Inadequate, though, is obvious. There is no other reason for the thread.0 -
That wasn't supposed to be "swill". It was supposed to be "she will." iPad. Sorry.
She said she wasn't trying to be nice, but was ranting.saying thisWe all get that.
and then this
in the same post makes absolutely zero senseThe question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?
Why? Why does she feel the need to rant?
What causes the inadequacy that leads to starting threads announcing that she is better than others?
Something is wrong there. There is a reason she felt she had to that.
Deep down, she doesn't feel as good as other people. She has an anger. She needs to strike out, but can't do it in real life and so began a thread to put other people down on the Internet. She is trying to make herself feel better. She thinks that by being nasty to others and announcing how great she is, that she will feel better. And it works for a bit.
But something is wrong. She needs to address whatever makes her feel inadequate in the first place. Then swill be a happier person and not need to start threads that pick on people with medical issues just to make her out to be better. Because she won't feel, deep down, like she's worse.
Maybe therapy?
Dude. Chill. OP said she has thyroid issues. She gets it. How is what your saying any help to anyone. You are pissed because you feel she is being mean to people with medical issues so you call her "swill" and "inadequate"? thats pretty screwed up.
Inadequate, though, is obvious. There is no other reason for the thread.
Maybe she felt like ranting. Whats it to you. I rant all the time. Its cathartic. It doesnt meant I'm inadequate.0 -
OP, I have the opposite problem--hyperthyroid. I was so worried about gaining weight when put on medication but with counting calories and exercising I have it under control. You're right, it can be done. But first people need to get their thyroid under control and THEN they can work on their weight.
I thought hyperthyroid makes some lose weight quickly although they constantly feel hungry？
Not always (/wave). I could still out-eat my metabolism when I my thyroid went hyper during and right after my last pregnancy.0 -
if anyone here is coming off as inadequate, its you caused by your attempts to demonize the OP. she posted a rant and you're honestly taking it this seriously?That wasn't supposed to be "swill". It was supposed to be "she will." iPad. Sorry.
Inadequate, though, is obvious. There is no other reason for the thread.
Why? Why do you feel the need to defend?
What causes the inadequacy that leads to hijacking threads announcing that you are better than others?
Something is wrong there. There is a reason you feel you have to that.
Deep down, you don't feel as good as other people. You have anger. You need to strike out, but can't do it in real life and so you began to hijack a thread to put other people down on the Internet. You are trying to make yourself feel better. You thinks that by being nasty to others and announcing how great you are, that you will feel better. And it works for a bit.
But something is wrong. You need to address whatever makes you feel inadequate in the first place. Then you will be a happier person and not need to hijack threads that pick on people with medical issues just to make you out to be better. Because you won't feel, deep down, like you're worse.
Maybe therapy?0 -
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I know when I was diagnosed (Hashimoto's) and went to my very next session with my trainer and told him the news, he asked me: "so, what are you going to do now?" and I responded: "I'm going to have to work twice as hard and it's likely to take me twice as long to lose the weight, but it's not going to stop me." He nodded and said: "let's go." and then kicked my *kitten*.
It's taken me two years to lose just over 90 pounds. In that time, I was diagnosed with the thyroid, plus PCOS, plus I tore most of the ligaments in my ankle that took about nine months to heal.
It's slow, it's grueling, and at times, unbelievably depressing to struggle with each pound. BUT, it can be done. Having said that, I do have compassion for those who are so overwhelmed with their diagnosis and think it's impossible. You are going to have to dig deep and find that inner beast mode.0 -
I don't really suffer from any illness that prevent me from losing weight. I guess I am super lucky in that regard.
But I come from a family of people with thyroid issues, both hyper and hypo.
The issue, really, runs a lot deeper than what you think is just an "excuse". I don't think anyone in their life wants to use illness as an excuse for not doing the things they want to achieve. But sometimes, for many people, that is just how the cards fall. I am happy that you found the strength within you to push through, even when times were rough. But not everyone is as blessed as you are in that regard. For some people, illness fall on the much more debilitating end of the spectrum. It's just the way it happens, and quite frankly, it's difficult to discern that they are using it as an "excuse" simply based off the fact that they are telling you about their health issues. And it is never as easy as saying, "Stop using your illness as an excuse!!!" If it were, wouldn't we all be much happier?
I think a bit more sympathy is in order here. Again, I am happy that you are doing well. But rather than telling people who have some very real problems that their ill health is simply an "excuse" for them not living life the way they want, it would be much more fruitful to see where they are coming from first and sympathize with them. Being annoyed or ranting at them that they should be doing better is, to me, only making the problem worse. Someone who is already discouraged about their life isn't going to magically change their entire perspective just because of being curtly told to straighten out. Tough love doesn't always work. If it does for you, great. But for most people, it only makes them feel worse and more discouraged.
I agree, there are many people who DO in fact use mild illnesses as an excuse. But like I said, I don't think shouting at them is going to help. I would much rather find out why they make such excuses and tackle the subject from that perspective. I think it's a much kinder approach, and in the long run, probably much more effective and encouraging and helpful.0 -
As a fellow thyroid sufferer i understand what the op is saying. Also am i the only one that suffers from severe legs cramps? Rapid heart beat??0
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Why do you think you started the thread that, by your own admission, was not meant to be nice or helpful, but just to rant about people who have medical conditions?
We all get that.What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.
make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.
And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.
The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.
Ta. So much nicer than how u started the post.
It wasnt ment to be "nice" or helpful, hence the capitolized "RANT" title
The question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?
What is wrong with you that makes you do that?
I am sorry that is your interpretation, your problem, not mine.
Also, very interested in how you controlled your thyroid problem with diet and exercise, lol, seeing as it isn't possible. It's not Type II Diabetes, it's a thyroid. It can't be fixed or controlled by diet and exercise.
Why do you think you went online and began a discussion about how you are better than other people?0 -
An understand and kind approach got me to where I am today. People said with my medical condition it was normal to gain weight and very hard to get it off so not to worry. But now I'm overweight, low energy and generally unhappy. It takes a kick in the pants but sometimes thats what people need. I had to come to terms with the fact that it is possible to lose weight with strange medical issues. You just have to be adaptable. Being nice and easy with myself got me here. Now i need to shape up and get my life back on track.
/end rant.
just kidding not done. I have all the empathy in the world for people with my medical condition. But that doesn't meant that their life is over and it is pre determined. The OP is simply saying that with her medical issues it is possible to lose weight. If anything it should be seen as encouraging.
The best help to people with strange medical issues is for someone else with that issue to say "hey life can get better. you just have to push for it"
/really end rant.0
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