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  • meridianova
    meridianova Posts: 438 Member
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    My friend just had her RMR tested, you could always do that to get a more accurate view of your calorie needs. Perhaps you really do have a lower daily energy requirement than the calculators are saying.

    Also make sure you aren't double counting your exercise calories (ie, including them in the MFP/TDEE calculations and then also adding them to your diary). I can't tell if they are or not by what MFP gives you.

    I'm not double-counting. There are days I go over my limit, but they aren't based on "oh I exercised today so I can eat more." The way I log my food, I do all the food first and make sure I'm under, then log the exercise after I'm done with logging food for the day.
  • Lindzpnc
    Lindzpnc Posts: 98 Member
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    nevermind
    :ohwell:
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
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    I only saw results when I took DRASTIC, and I do mean DRASTIC measures... its taken me a lot of work and starvation to do so

    I truly think it's a mistake to offer the OP the advice to do something "drastic" like starving herself.
  • YamaMaya1
    YamaMaya1 Posts: 49 Member
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    If you have a history of Anorexia and calorie talk is a problem for you, I suggest you you get off these boards. There is no magic fix if your body is holding on to weight, you just have to adjust your routine. If you want matter of fact advice this is a good place to get it. If you want something else, MFP isnt for you.
  • Lindzpnc
    Lindzpnc Posts: 98 Member
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    I only saw results when I took DRASTIC, and I do mean DRASTIC measures... its taken me a lot of work and starvation to do so

    I truly think it's a mistake to offer the OP the advice to do something "drastic" like starving herself.

    no im not suggesting her to do that... I have an appointment with the specialist.. I was exactly where she was and didn't see results until I cut calories even further... this is NOT what she wanted to hear.

    I merely was stating that I understand where she is coming from. I cant keep this up myself its been 2-3 weeks of way under calories and though I like the results I know the moment I stop it will all go downhill... its stupid but I have issues so hence that's why I was once 358 pounds.. the issues will never ever go away.
  • azwen
    azwen Posts: 237 Member
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    Hang in there. Sounds like you're doing a lot of things right. I think you've almost certainly lost more than a pound of fat this month. Since your weight fluctuates due to water, etc., weighing once a month is not going to give you the most accurate picture. I personally weigh myself every morning, and don't worry when it stays the same or shows a "gain"; I just update my results when the number is lower than it's been before. For example, according to the scale I've somehow "gained" two pounds overnight, but of course that's water, not fat. I understand why you might not want to weigh daily, but just keep in mind that weighing monthly isn't going to give you the best info, especially just once! You need to be patient.
    If your jeans are looser, you're losing weight! :-)
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    While it's possible I've gained muscle, it's far more likely that I've gained muscle TONE instead. In my mind, 4lbs of muscle is a lot to put on in a month and my circuit training has been in the 30-45lb range. I don't have a fat analyzer, but I do have a mirror :wink:. Most of my problem is all in my torso, but I certainly wouldn't complain to see my thighs trim down.

    You don't tone muscle, you gain muscle. Making muscles bigger is what makes you look "toned"
    Though this brings up another question... is a 1" waistline reduction (and I'm estimating here, just based on how that particular pair of jeans fit last time) an acceptable, expected improvement for a month, or is that low too?

    1'' is a respectable reduction. It could even be more since you estimated based on how your jeans fit. Depending on how much you have to lose, it can take a while for whole inches to disappear.

    Correct that you don't "tone" muscle, but making muscle bigger doesn't make you look toned. Reducing the fat covering them does.
  • meridianova
    meridianova Posts: 438 Member
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    I only saw results when I took DRASTIC, and I do mean DRASTIC measures... its taken me a lot of work and starvation to do so

    I truly think it's a mistake to offer the OP the advice to do something "drastic" like starving herself.

    No no no... please don't think that I'd take her post as an indication that I should go back to starving myself. Lindzpnc was simply letting me know that I'm not the only one, that she's in the same boat I am, and has gone through the same struggles. It's heartening to know I'm not alone.
  • Lauren8239
    Lauren8239 Posts: 1,039 Member
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    Ask your doctor to test your cortisol levels. It has to be done between 7:00 and 8:00 am to be accurate. It might be too high. I'm going through the same thing. I've been at this for a couple of years and I haven't lost more that about 5 pounds.

    My endocrinologist appointment is at 11am. Is there a home method for testing cortisol, or is that strictly lab work?


    the first test for cortisol testing is with urine. You collect it in a big jug for 24 hours and they test the levels of cortisol. My daughter had that done, and it's not such a bad thing lol.
  • Chelsarrr
    Chelsarrr Posts: 65 Member
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    Throw away your scale. Use a measuring tape and track your body fat instead. It's messing with you, but your body IS improving.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
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    Here is an example from my own data. As can be seen in the graph below, I "gained" weight over the last weeks even though I kept or reduced my calories. What is going on is that I changed my workout routine and increased intensity of training - the response was water retention, thus the apparent weight gain.

    This last week, I'm getting a little more used to the change and we can see some loss.

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    Weight loss is not linear...

    Where did you get that graph made? That's amazing! I love it! The reports available here aren't bad, but they aren't great for comprehensive tracking like this.

    Thank you, it's part of the tool I wrote for Excel. It extracts data from MFP and provides an in-depth analysis. You'll find the details and the worksheet here:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/EvgeniZyntx/view/new-mfp-data-export-tool-major-update-659927

    If you use it, let me know if you have any questions.
  • ChaoticMiNd
    ChaoticMiNd Posts: 247 Member
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    WOW I'd take a measly pound and a full inch off my hips any day. But I'm not mental....or rude though so.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    Despite the severely depressing report from the scale, I actually have noticed some other effects. Last night I tried on a pair of reference jeans, and based on that I have probably lost about an inch in my waist (I forgot to get measurements beforehand... my bad). I have more energy and don't want to nap at lunch anymore. I can keep up with my husband when we go places or do yard work. I'm not giving up the gym... I enjoy it too much.

    Based on this paragraph it sounds like you're doing just fine.
    It took me 2 months before I started losing weight on the scale, but my measurements started changing way earlier. I've since decided to not care so much about what the scale says, I mostly use it to watch my water weight fluxuations because I find them facinating.

    Please start measuring yourself and taking progress pictures. I think that will help you so so much more then just going off what the scale says, because it sounds like you are doing a fantastic job taking care of your bosy and I would hate for the *kitten* hole scale to ruin your progress.
    This. It's also one of the problems with weighing once a month. With water weight from hormonal changes, starting a new work out, and possibly a different sodium level than other days, you could easily miss a loss. Even water weight gains/loss aren't consistent. I personally choose to weigh daily with "official" weigh ins once a week so that I can see overall trends even if a weigh in day is higher.

    However, with your history of eating disorders, living by the scale is probably a bad idea. I'd continue with your weigh ins as you are comfortable. But, you need to realize that lots of things make the scale fluctuate (and you're right, you did not gain 4lbs of muscle in a month). Combine your monthly weigh ins with monthly progress photos and measurements. Plus, go by how clothes fits. Some times everything looks the same in pictures and numbers, but a shirt that was super tight is now looser. Especially if you lose weight in weird places you'd never think to measure (for a long time I had this weird hump on my back just below my neck which is now gone, but you could never measure that).
  • seehowyousoar
    seehowyousoar Posts: 60 Member
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    I'm gonna leave this here for you.
    This is my last 30 days worth of tracking my weight daily. Look at those cute little squiggly lines of fluctuations!

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    Don't worry about it too much. It will come off. It will go crazy like mine did. It will be fine. Just stay true to yourself, to your workouts, health etc. :)

    Edited to resize the image. whoops.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    First of all, if you're not familiar with In-n-Out, they're not your typical burger joint.

    I've in SoCal for a long time and am very familiar with I-n-0. The nutritional information is at best +/- 20%, so if you want to eat there, and be sure you're not going over, add 20% more calories than it says you're eating (or just put in "1.2" for the number of servings).
  • meridianova
    meridianova Posts: 438 Member
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    Where did you get that graph made? That's amazing! I love it! The reports available here aren't bad, but they aren't great for comprehensive tracking like this.

    Thank you, it's part of the tool I wrote for Excel. It extracts data from MFP and provides an in-depth analysis. You'll find the details and the worksheet here:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/EvgeniZyntx/view/new-mfp-data-export-tool-major-update-659927

    If you use it, let me know if you have any questions.

    Holy crap... thank you!!
  • sc10985
    sc10985 Posts: 347 Member
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    You can go around and around with every member of this forum and dissect every answer they give you, but it's blatantly obvious after reading 4 pages of this nonsense that no one here can give you the response you desire. It doesn't even exist.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    First of all, if you're not familiar with In-n-Out, they're not your typical burger joint.

    I've in SoCal for a long time and am very familiar with I-n-0. The nutritional information is at best +/- 20%, so if you want to eat there, and be sure you're not going over, add 20% more calories than it says you're eating (or just put in "1.2" for the number of servings).
    I think that restaurants probably do usually give out portions larger than their specs but in general if all our estimates are 'plus or minus X%' accurate (which is true even of database foods like an apple), the pluses and the minuses cancel out and you're ok with logging the original estimate value.

    But if I ate at one restaurant a lot I might one day compare their fries portion to their spec weight and maybe mayo. The meat, cheese and buns are going to be premade to spec, though.
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
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    Also, if you are only using a number on a scale to dictate your success that is also a very inaccurate measure, because you are not taking into account that you MAY have lost 5 pounds of fat and GAINED 4 pounds of muscle, which would be very desirable. Do you have a hand-held body fat analyzer or have you ever had your body fat percentage accurately measured by a professional?

    While it's possible I've gained muscle, it's far more likely that I've gained muscle TONE instead. In my mind, 4lbs of muscle is a lot to put on in a month and my circuit training has been in the 30-45lb range. I don't have a fat analyzer, but I do have a mirror :wink:. Most of my problem is all in my torso, but I certainly wouldn't complain to see my thighs trim down.
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    No. You can not gain muscle while eating at a deficit.
    And if you had gained any muscle there's no way it would be 4 pounds in two months. Some people don't gain that in a year.

    You're eating more than you think or It's water weight from changing up your routine.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
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    Where did you get that graph made? That's amazing! I love it! The reports available here aren't bad, but they aren't great for comprehensive tracking like this.

    Thank you, it's part of the tool I wrote for Excel. It extracts data from MFP and provides an in-depth analysis. You'll find the details and the worksheet here:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/EvgeniZyntx/view/new-mfp-data-export-tool-major-update-659927

    If you use it, let me know if you have any questions.

    Holy crap... thank you!!

    :drinker: