Too much sugar and you won't lose weight even in defecit?

Jeez, it's really tough to learn when every time I turn around people say different things that seem to contradict what others said just moments ago.

I eat a couple bananas a day. Someone told me I shouldn't do that because of the sugar. They said that even if I'm in a calorie defecit (which I am every day), I'll still NOT lose or I'll gain weight because of all the sugar.

Any truth to this?
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  • VBnotbitter
    VBnotbitter Posts: 820 Member
    None at all
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    No. Not true.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Nonsense. Enjoy your bananas, OP.
  • AnswerzPwease
    AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
    I honestly didn't think so.

    Just wanted to make sure. Thank you.

    Someday I won't have to ask such stupid questions! Haha

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  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    People say that because bananas are high in carbs/sugar.

    If you are doing low carb, you won't want to eat a couple bananas a day.

    If you have medical conditions like diabetes, insulin resistance, etc., you won't want to eat bananas.

    However, if you do not have those issues and stay under your daily caloric goal, you can eat a couple bananas a day and not gain weight.

    It's all about calories in vs. calories out. As long as you are burning more calories than you are consuming, you will lose weight.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    false
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Who said this?
  • Valrotha
    Valrotha Posts: 294 Member
    Fruit contains fructose, which is a type of sugar. However, fruit also contains fiber which offsets the negative effects of sugar. Also, fruit typically tends to be low in calories compared to, say, a candy bar or soda, or even fruit juice which contains fructose without the fiber.

    So unless you're really overdoing it caloriewise, you should be ok with fruit in your diet.
  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    People say that because bananas are high in carbs/sugar.

    If you are doing low carb, you won't want to eat a couple bananas a day.

    If you have medical conditions like diabetes, insulin resistance, etc., you won't want to eat bananas.

    However, if you do not have those issues and stay under your daily caloric goal, you can eat a couple bananas a day and not gain weight.

    It's all about calories in vs. calories out. As long as you are burning more calories than you are consuming, you will lose weight.

    Even someone with an insulin resistance issue could eat bananas within reason. They have a moderate glycemic load at 16 (anything over GL 20 is considered high) per serving. So don't pop 3 of 'em into a blender to make yourself a smoothie and you're probably alright. lol
  • j3haughe
    j3haughe Posts: 9
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    This is incorrect. Eat at a caloric defecit. You will lose weight, even if you only eat twinkies.
  • Supertact
    Supertact Posts: 466 Member
    There is A LOT of stupid people on these forums. Sorry mods.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    This is incorrect. Eat at a caloric defecit. You will lose weight, even if you only eat twinkies.
    +1 the body can't create energy out of thin air
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    I go over on carbs almost every day (though mine are set at 40) and it has not hurt my progress. Bananas are tasty.
  • ketoambahh
    ketoambahh Posts: 67
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    ^ This. So much.

    I mean, if you want to eat your entire calories in cakes and sweets, then surely you're going to be hungry after you eat all of your calories for the day. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.
  • newdaydawning79
    newdaydawning79 Posts: 1,503 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    ^ This. So much.

    I mean, if you want to eat your entire calories in cakes and sweets, then surely you're going to be hungry after you eat all of your calories for the day. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.

    A good idea? No, not at all. Will you lose weight? Yes. See: Twinkie Diet.
  • fivethreeone
    fivethreeone Posts: 8,196 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    ^ This. So much.

    I mean, if you want to eat your entire calories in cakes and sweets, then surely you're going to be hungry after you eat all of your calories for the day. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.

    That's not what the post said, first of all. And secondly, hunger isn't the question.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    ^ This. So much.

    I mean, if you want to eat your entire calories in cakes and sweets, then surely you're going to be hungry after you eat all of your calories for the day. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.

    Going low carb is one way to achieve a defecit. That doesn't mean is the best method, or that everyone will find it sustainable.
  • tarcotti
    tarcotti Posts: 205 Member
    What a silly idea! I made rice krispie treats and have been eating them all last week for dessert. Sometimes I had so many calories left over I'd eat 2! So yeah, lots of sugar, I still lost my weekly 2 lbs. Its just me, but I don't think all that matters, just the calorie deficit. Plus, bananas are good for you anyway. Its not like your eating sugary crap like me this past week!
  • AnswerzPwease
    AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
    Who said this?

    A friend.
  • kwantlen2051
    kwantlen2051 Posts: 455 Member
    I think you can answer that - are you losing weight while eating X number of bananas a day?
  • AnswerzPwease
    AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    Ok, this is what I mean.

    You're saying if you eat too many carbs it will be hard to lose weight.... Even in a calorie defecit?

    Very confusing.
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    C'mon.
  • Cryptonomnomicon
    Cryptonomnomicon Posts: 848 Member
    Who said this?

    A friend.
    So your friend is a respected nutritionist/dietician/specialist?

    They probably saw a pop-up on their computer.

    Lies I tell you, ignore it!

    Setting Your Calorie and Macro Targets

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
  • princess71903
    princess71903 Posts: 56 Member
    As I said on previous post I'm living proof CICO is not all there is to it. But yet all the "know it alls" here will say its cause of my body. My body is fine according to my bloodwork. I was nauseous from meds so barely ate anything but a few 100 call cereal bars or nurtigrains a day. I gained weight like crazy the past few months. Even my doc says its cause all I ate was sugar and carbs. It is CICO but its whats in the CI! CICO is just everyones simple way of starting an argument. Even MFP tracks these but they will still all tell you to ignore it even right after they tell you that MFP gives you the correct CI count that you should have. I've been to 3 diff sites and got 3 diff CI amounts from the same info I entered in.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    Ok, this is what I mean.

    You're saying if you eat too many carbs it will be hard to lose weight.... Even in a calorie defecit?

    Very confusing.

    You had over 500 posts on your first thread debating this.
    There are going to be conflicting opinions on everything. It's up to you to read the facts presented and decide. A lot of people try different ideas to see how it works for them.
    I've done the "clean eating". I've done paleo. In the end, I believe in IIFYM. calories in/calories out for weight loss, macros/micros for health/body composition.
  • AnswerzPwease
    AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
    Who said this?

    A friend.
    So your friend is a respected nutritionist/dietician/specialist?

    They probably saw a pop-up on their computer.

    Lies I tell you, ignore it!

    Setting Your Calorie and Macro Targets

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

    Haha, no not at all.

    But she is skinny.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    It's not about sugar; it's about the carbs. A diet with too many carbs will make it very difficult for you to lose weight. There are three macronutrients: proteins, carbs, and fats. You want to keep these in balance. Myfitnesspal sets as default for your goal to be 50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20% protein. Do that and you'll do well.

    The hardest part is making sure you get your protein all the way to 20% and making sure you don't go over 50% carbs. Look for foods that are high protein and low carb and that will help a lot. Bananas are all carbs (and moderately/high glycemic as well -- google glycemic weight loss index for a much deeper discussion of how different kinds of carbs -- e.g. breads, potatoes, veggies, fruits -- all can affect weight loss and blood sure differently) so that's why you'll hear some people have concerns about bananas. There's nothing inherently wrong with bananas at all; they just don't help you keep your carbs, fats, and proteins in balance. If you're eating them together with foods that include proteins and fats, though, they're fine.

    ^ This. So much.

    I mean, if you want to eat your entire calories in cakes and sweets, then surely you're going to be hungry after you eat all of your calories for the day. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.

    Solution: Get a higher calorie goal
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    As I said on previous post I'm living proof CICO is not all there is to it. But yet all the "know it alls" here will say its cause of my body. My body is fine according to my bloodwork. I was nauseous from meds so barely ate anything but a few 100 call cereal bars or nurtigrains a day. I gained weight like crazy the past few months. Even my doc says its cause all I ate was sugar and carbs. It is CICO but its whats in the CI! CICO is just everyones simple way of starting an argument. Even MFP tracks these but they will still all tell you to ignore it even right after they tell you that MFP gives you the correct CI count that you should have. I've been to 3 diff sites and got 3 diff CI amounts from the same info I entered in.

    I would consider you living proof if the ONLY thing that changed was your diet. But it wasn't. From your own admission in the other thread you were ill, on medication, far less active than you used to be, eating a lot of take out food and not tracking.
    Any of those factors or combination thereof could contribute to weight gain, not just the food.
  • OkamiLavande
    OkamiLavande Posts: 336 Member
    As I said on previous post I'm living proof CICO is not all there is to it. But yet all the "know it alls" here will say its cause of my body. My body is fine according to my bloodwork. I was nauseous from meds so barely ate anything but a few 100 call cereal bars or nurtigrains a day. I gained weight like crazy the past few months. Even my doc says its cause all I ate was sugar and carbs. It is CICO but its whats in the CI! CICO is just everyones simple way of starting an argument. Even MFP tracks these but they will still all tell you to ignore it even right after they tell you that MFP gives you the correct CI count that you should have. I've been to 3 diff sites and got 3 diff CI amounts from the same info I entered in.

    And I'm proof CICO works eating over your sugar goal every day. I had my tonsils taken out two weeks ago and all I can eat is sugar essentially still: popsicles, jello, pudding, ice cream. I can hardly eat anything else and I've lost weight.