Pushy Spelling/Grammar People
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I like when people correct me when I attempt to speak/write foreign languages. I want to know how to write/speak correctly. I would think everyone would. If I'm doing something wrong, I want to know. My best friend struggles with English, and I help him fix things because i don't want him to be embarrassed or get judged by anyone because of it. I want to help him get better.0
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I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.0 -
You seem nice!0
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Chris gets up to give a presentation in a new, tailored suit, hair done well, obviously well-groomed, and speaks in a clear, confident voice while maintaining eye contact with the audience.I realize that when 'texting' people will use short cuts, make spelling errors due to closeness of keys, use text speak, etc., and that is well and fine and understood as trying to be quick about communication. When I read online posts with spelling mistakes, and/or grammar errors, I judge the writer's credibility. What is being said (written) is less credible to me with spelling errors. I find that I start correcting the grammar and spelling rather than caring to understand their viewpoint.
I think that is something you need to work on then.
I don't think discrediting people's point of view because of spelling errors is something to be proud of ( or of which to be proud, if you prefer
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Pat gets up to give a presentation in disheveled, dirty clothes, hair uncombed and obviously not well-groomed, and speaks in a quiet mumble, all the while staring down at the notes.
Is it your contention that you'd judge both presentations equally, or solely on content rather than including delivery in your evaluation?
Hardly the same context as an online forum.
However, to answer the question,I would try very hard to not let presentation get in the way of content. I am not saying I would be entirely successful - but I wouldn't automatically dismiss the content of the poorer presentor, whilst being proud of doing so.
That's the way that poster came across to me - taking pride in dismissing content when there were spelling errors, rather than trying to see past presentation.0 -
On an online forum, the words you choose are the clothes you wear, the way you style your hair, and the manner in which you speak. If you do not see the analogy, I guess that's too bad.
Chris gets up to give a presentation in a new, tailored suit, hair done well, obviously well-groomed, and speaks in a clear, confident voice while maintaining eye contact with the audience.I realize that when 'texting' people will use short cuts, make spelling errors due to closeness of keys, use text speak, etc., and that is well and fine and understood as trying to be quick about communication. When I read online posts with spelling mistakes, and/or grammar errors, I judge the writer's credibility. What is being said (written) is less credible to me with spelling errors. I find that I start correcting the grammar and spelling rather than caring to understand their viewpoint.
I think that is something you need to work on then.
I don't think discrediting people's point of view because of spelling errors is something to be proud of ( or of which to be proud, if you prefer )
Pat gets up to give a presentation in disheveled, dirty clothes, hair uncombed and obviously not well-groomed, and speaks in a quiet mumble, all the while staring down at the notes.
Is it your contention that you'd judge both presentations equally, or solely on content rather than including delivery in your evaluation?
Hardly the same context as an online forum.
However, to answer the question,I would try very hard to not let presentation get in the way of content. I am not saying I would be entirely successful - but I wouldn't automatically dismiss the content of the poorer presentor, whilst being proud of doing so.
That's the way that poster came across to me - taking pride in dismissing content when there were spelling errors, rather than trying to see past presentation.0 -
Some people just don't understand pedantry.
Many may not understand what it is but some are very good at it
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It is super annoying to correct grammar/spelling errors.0
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I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
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On an online forum, the words you choose are the clothes you wear, the way you style your hair, and the manner in which you speak. If you do not see the analogy, I guess that's too bad.
Chris gets up to give a presentation in a new, tailored suit, hair done well, obviously well-groomed, and speaks in a clear, confident voice while maintaining eye contact with the audience.I realize that when 'texting' people will use short cuts, make spelling errors due to closeness of keys, use text speak, etc., and that is well and fine and understood as trying to be quick about communication. When I read online posts with spelling mistakes, and/or grammar errors, I judge the writer's credibility. What is being said (written) is less credible to me with spelling errors. I find that I start correcting the grammar and spelling rather than caring to understand their viewpoint.
I think that is something you need to work on then.
I don't think discrediting people's point of view because of spelling errors is something to be proud of ( or of which to be proud, if you prefer )
Pat gets up to give a presentation in disheveled, dirty clothes, hair uncombed and obviously not well-groomed, and speaks in a quiet mumble, all the while staring down at the notes.
Is it your contention that you'd judge both presentations equally, or solely on content rather than including delivery in your evaluation?
Hardly the same context as an online forum.
However, to answer the question,I would try very hard to not let presentation get in the way of content. I am not saying I would be entirely successful - but I wouldn't automatically dismiss the content of the poorer presentor, whilst being proud of doing so.
That's the way that poster came across to me - taking pride in dismissing content when there were spelling errors, rather than trying to see past presentation.
I didn't say I couldn't see the analogy - I said I would try hard in each case ( the live presenter and the online post) to see past the presentation to the content - as opposed to taking pride in dismissing the content because of oresentation.
Having said that, online errors really don't bother me much anyway.0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
OMG! Right?! Someone was rude to someone else being preachy on the interwebs. I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
Thanks for the offer, but I'm going to politely decline. :flowerforyou:0 -
It infuriates me when others correct spelling and grammar. Even though I can see the error it is not my position to correct them on it. I do not have the red pen and I really don't give a rodents behind as long as they get the point across.0
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Woo me with words. I admit I've FR people on here that have excellent vocabulary.
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All I know is I have crazy ADD and do not always take the time to check to make sure I have spelled everything correctly lol...
I gonnna learns to be more caireful though
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^thats prefect :-)0
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I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
Classy (sacrasm)0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
Classy (sacrasm)
Ouch (sarcasm)0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
Classy (sacrasm)
Ouch (sarcasm)
This is better than tennis!0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
Classy (sacrasm)
Ouch (sarcasm)
This is better than tennis!
I think there is more "love" in tennis.
I apologize to whoever I offended, though.0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
I'm sure the grace you afforded your new boss, was returned to you tenfold. I mean really, without having known his situation, you judged him and called him out in front of the entire office, and then proceeded to continue the pissing match by email for all to see. . He must have thought you were a hero.
What if one of his family members had just died, or a child was sick, or he had been in a car accident? without knowing anything about him, you judged him.
Sorry, but not cool.
He actually turned out to be one of the better bosses I had. Became fairly good friends until he retired a couple years ago. Blow me.
Classy (sacrasm)
Ouch (sarcasm)
This is better than tennis!
I think there is more "love" in tennis.
I apologize to whoever I offended, though.
Well, you DID offer to let me blow you... that's pretty loving.... no? :laugh:
no offence taken over here.
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I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
did anyone reply to your email?0 -
I absolutely despise when people use incorrect grammar.. particularly when they use the wrong your, you're, they're, their, or there.
-_-
When I see someone type out the incorrect word, especially in a post that is particularly intelligent, it tells me one of two things:
1) You're too lazy to reread or even to go back and correct your own work
2) You're not educated enough to use the correct word
Either way, it directly changes my view of how credible your take is on whatever it is we are discussing.
That being said... I rarely ever go out of my way to correct the spelling or grammar of others in a public forum. I form my opinion of you immediately, and it would be a futile effort to start a pointless battle over highlighting your errors. People tend to only make my view of them worse by arguing that their poor use of grammar "shouldn't matter" if their facts are correct.0 -
Rightly or wrongly, I am a sticker for spelling and grammar even though I rarely point it out.
I tend to ignore obvious typo errors (we all get caught out on that one from time to time) but I am not a fan of text speak. I agree with the above poster that language needs to evolve but a lot of people use that reasoning to mask laziness. A bugbear of mine is people inserting “lol” into sentences that clearly don’t need it.
Although to be fair, I post on other messageboards and the standard of spelling and grammar are far better on here than others.
sorry is it not "stickler" instead of sticker? or was that for humor's sake?0 -
if you use than instead of then, were instead we're and your instead of you're you deserve to be corrected no matter how well written the post is and no matter who you are
text speak is ok between people and is cool to cut down the amount of typing/swiping and everything you have written whilst not correctly spelled does appear to be correct word usage except for "their" when they meant "there" for which they should be corrected.
Language has to change and evolve over time and does need to keep up with the times and its usage, so writing things in text speak is acceptable from this view, but again this doesn't mean that you can use the wrong word just because of the way you speak, things like the above (than/then etc) aren't really acceptable within this evolution, saying UR/ur instead of your when wanting to say your correctly whilst infuriating to some is acceptable.
Hope that makes sense
TL;DR
- kinda wrong is wrong
- really wrong is ok0 -
1. I went back and read the whole thread; could you highlight the person who said they take pride in correcting written errors, please? I saw nobody using that phrase except you, to dismiss those who do it.
On an online forum, the words you choose are the clothes you wear, the way you style your hair, and the manner in which you speak. If you do not see the analogy, I guess that's too bad.
Chris gets up to give a presentation in a new, tailored suit, hair done well, obviously well-groomed, and speaks in a clear, confident voice while maintaining eye contact with the audience.I realize that when 'texting' people will use short cuts, make spelling errors due to closeness of keys, use text speak, etc., and that is well and fine and understood as trying to be quick about communication. When I read online posts with spelling mistakes, and/or grammar errors, I judge the writer's credibility. What is being said (written) is less credible to me with spelling errors. I find that I start correcting the grammar and spelling rather than caring to understand their viewpoint.
I think that is something you need to work on then.
I don't think discrediting people's point of view because of spelling errors is something to be proud of ( or of which to be proud, if you prefer )
Pat gets up to give a presentation in disheveled, dirty clothes, hair uncombed and obviously not well-groomed, and speaks in a quiet mumble, all the while staring down at the notes.
Is it your contention that you'd judge both presentations equally, or solely on content rather than including delivery in your evaluation?
Hardly the same context as an online forum.
However, to answer the question,I would try very hard to not let presentation get in the way of content. I am not saying I would be entirely successful - but I wouldn't automatically dismiss the content of the poorer presentor, whilst being proud of doing so.
That's the way that poster came across to me - taking pride in dismissing content when there were spelling errors, rather than trying to see past presentation.
I didn't say I couldn't see the analogy - I said I would try hard in each case ( the live presenter and the online post) to see past the presentation to the content - as opposed to taking pride in dismissing the content because of oresentation.
Having said that, online errors really don't bother me much anyway.
2. Do you not see "I think that is something you need to work on, then" as judgmental? From here, you're judging someone based on the fact that they judge people on their written word. . . .0 -
I got a new Boss a few years back. We hadn't met him yet. He called a staff meeting in a nearby Training Room. Staff showed up on time.
15 Minutes past the designated meeting time and the new Boss has not arrived. I got out of my seat and walked up to the front of the room.
I wrote on the white board "Word for the Day: Punctuality"
New Boss arrives a few minutes later. Looks at the Board. He then turned to us and introduced himself. Gave a short little presentation, then, as we were ready to leave, he points to the White Board and says, "I would have responded to that if it had been spelled correctly.
I went back to my office and looked up Punctuality on a Web Dictionary. I cut and pasted to an email that I sent to everyone that was in the room, including my new Boss.
Under the cut and pasted spelling and definition I wrote: "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right."
did anyone reply to your email?
Everyone responded verbally. My Boss was the only one that responded via email. As a matter of fact "It's not important that I'm right. It's important that you know I'm right." became his catch phrase whenever he had the opportunity to use it. I never gave him that opportunity.0 -
Does it tick you off when someone corrects your spelling and or structure in an online forum? Or, do you EVER see it as helpful? What do you think motivates a "grammar Nazi"?
I don't even get the urge when the entire post is barely English. But, occasionally, an otherwise intelligent and well-stated post makes me wonder if the writer would like to have the error pointed out. I know I would.
Godwin in one post! Wow.0 -
if you use than instead of then, were instead we're and your instead of you're you deserve to be corrected no matter how well written the post is and no matter who you are
text speak is ok between people and is cool to cut down the amount of typing/swiping and everything you have written whilst not correctly spelled does appear to be correct word usage except for "their" when they meant "there" for which they should be corrected.
Language has to change and evolve over time and does need to keep up with the times and its usage, so writing things in text speak is acceptable from this view, but again this doesn't mean that you can use the wrong word just because of the way you speak, things like the above (than/then etc) aren't really acceptable within this evolution, saying UR/ur instead of your when wanting to say your correctly whilst infuriating to some is acceptable.
Hope that makes sense
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Oh, that reminds me of a huge pet peeve: "c/would of" instead of "c/would have". Seeing that one more and more. The worst was in sophomore year of high school, when we were studying the imperfect tense in Spanish class; our teacher repeatedly rendered the English translation as "use to" (rather than "useD to"), again and again, until it was clear that she simply didn't know a "d" belonged there. Traumatic for a young grammar fanatic! ;-)0 -
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