New Diet Pills (Belviq vs Qsymia)
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The problem with phentermine is that it is a stimulant. Research generally supports the idea that it is not addictive, but, as a stimulant, it carries cardiovascular risks (i.e. increased heart rate, for example), that can be particularly dangerous in obese individuals in which there may be existing cardiovascular issues.
By the way, using DEA scheduling (i.e. IV vs II) as any sort of barometer to compare drugs is useless...these schedule assignments are very arbitrary and to a large extent are not scientifically-based in the same way that, say, drugs are grouped pharmacologically or chemically. After all, marijuana is schedule I.0 -
I've had my experience with Phentermine and did not become psychologically dependent. I did complete a short withdrawal cycle after discontinuing the drug, so chemical dependence is inevitable. There are different forms of addiction which many choose to ignore.
Phentermine was short lived for me as it gave an initial loss during the first 2 weeks then completely stunted my metabolism, even though I was eating at an energy deficit and exercising 6 days a week.
As for drug scheduling, it's a load of crap. My meds are schedule I yet are nonaddictive, nonlethal, and produce more positive affects in body than negative.
Many here are against diet pills without taking into consideration the psychological benefits of a sharp, initial drop on the scale. Those who see a greater initial weight loss are more likely to stick to a healthy diet and exercise program. That being said, they are also more likely to gain the loss back over time than the slow and steady crowd.
Negative Nancies take a hike.0 -
I found the topic by looking up diet pills on google. I need to drop pounds fast as I am very close to being diagnosed diabetic. My last fasting glucose test was 129 and I go back in for a 4 week re-test to see if changing my diet has helped. I have lost a big whopping 2 pounds in a month. Great for a regular diet, not for someone looking to avoid daily injections. I will be asking my doctor about Belviq tommorrow. Thank you to all who posted about your experience with it.0
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I started qsymia the middle if May and have lost 8 pounds. I eat around 1500 calories and daily exercise. It is a struggle. I thought this magic pill would help drop weight off a little faster. I am getting depressed from the slow very slow pace. Not sure if spending g the monthly money on this pill is worth it.0
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Dissapointed in the lack of sassy GIFs here ::grumble:0
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This thread was started last year, I wonder if any of the early posters who started their diet pills 4 or more months ago would like to come back and post of their success.0
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Studies show that only 5% of people actually succeed at keeping their weight off long terms so the pill popping sinners and the righteous are in the same boat. Whichever category you fall into... may the odds forever be in your favor.0
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I started Qsymia one month ago and have lost 13 lbs. No side effects. I am very very happy!0
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I cannot obtain diet pills in Minnesota either. I would love to try the Belviq or the Qsymia to help me. Any ideas?
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I was wondering if you know how long to wait to start a new diet pill after finishing another0
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I started with Qsymia in mid March and lost 18 pounds - about 11% body weight. When I went in about a week ago for another check up, I asked for phentermine, because I felt that it was more effective because I had use it the year before to dop 25 lbs - which I kept off. the doctor suggested Belviq because he didn't feel I should be on the phentermine again - he feels it's not safe for the long term. Having ried Belviq, I will ask to reurn to Qsymia as I feel it is better than Belviq. The side effects of Q seemed only last 2 weeks - except maybe dry mouth - which can be easily handled with increased water intake. The pins and needles in he finger tips sopped afer a bit.
This has helped me eat less which I had trouble doing previously and with a slow metabolism this made weight loss difficult. I have worked out at least 3 days/week for the past year and a half, but exercise can only account for about 20% of weight loss. The best thing I did was start to track everything through MFP - I never tracked carbs/protein/fat before because it was iring to look everything up. Now I can more easily stick to my ratios and calories with MFP. Psychologically I hate to have to enter something "bad" or go over my calories or ratios so I think the accountability of the diary really helps.
Obviously no one wants to stay on medication for the long term but I feel that if it gets you to a healthier weight, you're better off. Being overweight is a bigger health risk in my mind that being on medication for a year or whatever it takes to get to your healhy weight. And in that perios, you have changed your eating life style, so it should be easier to mantain once you're of the pills.0 -
Worth noting, OP still has 40 pounds to go. Pills won't get you there. Get real.0
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I was wondering if you know how long to wait to start a new diet pill after finishing another
does this question not give you a hint that pills may not be a long term sustainable solution?0 -
I have been on Qsymia for 1 month. Lost only 10 lbs. Having said that I have done No excercise and have been on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks so it is a bit hard when things are not in a routine at the start at least. Not unhappy at this point. I will also say that that many more inches seem to have disappeared than actually lbs. Staying with it for now but am going on a cruise in 12 days so it may be rough sailing!0
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Good for you girl! Right behind you . Only 10lbs but still going.Started on Fathers Day.0
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I found the topic by looking up diet pills on google. I need to drop pounds fast as I am very close to being diagnosed diabetic.
You don't need to "drop pounds fast" you need to learn to eat correctly fast...
http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/recently-diagnosed/where-do-i-begin/weight-loss.html
^ This says 10-15 pounds can make a difference - it doesn't say anything about how fast the weight comes off. It directs you to their weight loss section here >>> http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/weight-loss/
Diet really is awesome for treating this... My Mother was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and lost 50 lbs. that year (she's still working on it) but now controls her blood sugar with her diet. She never had to go on insulin or oral medications for it.
Good luck!0 -
In for a neverending thread.0
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I don't think some people on this forum understand. I want to try belviq (not for the weight-loss, but for the hunger control. Idk if that's how other people feel, but it's how I do.) I've tried tons of things like, eating supposed filling food, drinking tons and tons of water, eating slowly, and just nothing. I've never found anything to curb my hunger, even taking metformin. It helped some, but not enough. I do NOT want to take belviq to lose weight, I want to take it to help me get on a better path of eating clean and healthy and not eating tons of junk and craving unhealthy things all the time, Some people just don't understand. And I've also tried sticking to a certain amount of calories, but it's so hard and pretty much impossible with how much hunger I always have.0
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Belviq works a lot like the smoking cessation pill, Chantix. I don't believe that this pill is magic by any means, BUT for people with a slow metabolism and little willpower - THIS HELPS BIG TIME. I can't overeat. I have no side effects. I have zero cravings for sweets, bread, or anything heavy. I had to force myself to finish my greek yogurt and granola this morning. This is an awesome perscription for people who need help changing their habits. I recently stopped smoking using Wellbutrin....which is super duper awesome.... HOWEVER, even though I started walking 2.5 to 3 miles every morning - I managed to pack on 12 pounds. Since I've started Belviq, I have willpower to just say no to junk! I've had no trouble sticking to a 1200 calorie diet. And my mood is better than ever. I'm scheduled to go see the doctor on August 25. I can't wait to share my success with you all.
P.S. I'm a 35 year old gal ....0 -
Belviq will help.... try it. And stick with it! :flowerforyou:0
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I agree it's frustrating to get beat down bc one chooses to try a weight loss pill to aid in finding their healthier self. I for one have lost nearly 89 lbs with proper diet and exercise. However I cannot get these last 15lbs off and so I am considering Belviq. When I started my weight loss journey I also started it by taking a dip ex for 2 months. I started with a pill a day m den wean to a half a pill and eventually stopped. None of the weight came bck and that's been over 2 years ago. After many failures along d way mentally I need some quick loss just to keep me encouraged along the way and it worked. I lost 15lbs the first month and another 10 the next. After that I had a regular wrk out regime...had better food mgmt and kept with it bc I was excited to see what the next 25 lbs looked like and the next 25..still waiting for d last 25 lb look and that is what has brought me bck to where I started...a weight loss aid...
My only issue now is that I am so close to a healthy bmi I am worried my doctor will not give them to me..And that's my opinion on that. ..0 -
How did you do this month because I am exactly 1 month behind you with the same weight loss of 13 lbs the first month. Just curious.?0
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If I only had your problem!0
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Thanks for the info.. both for and against it! Everyone is passionate and I love it!!! javascript:add_smiley('drinker','post_body')0
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How much are the Belviq to get them filled.0
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Diet pills are bad, mmmkay?
+1 - Because when you stop taking them - problems start up again...just like doing a diet, and then stopping the diet. Diet and exercise is always the best way for a long term solution.
It is important to get into good habits. Glad it is working for you. Good luck!
I'm feeling your post!! There's always a (+) & a (-) to everything we do but I'm glad it's working for you guys who are taking them & good luck as well!0 -
I just started taking Belviq and I am loving it!!
My doc will not prescribe Qsymia due to the phentermine and stimulant effect but he stated he feels very comfortable prescribing Belviq. It has taken the place of one of my blood pressure meds also. My blood pressure has been through the roof since eI have gained so much weight...I had to take three pills a day to control my bp but the Belviq has helped control that and has lowered by bp so I have d/c'd two of the bp pills.
I just started it so I can't say much about weight loss but my appetite is very decreased and I'm having to remind myself to eat.0 -
Hello,
How are you doing now?
Are you still taking Belviq?
Did you keep the weight off?
How much weight loss within a week?
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I think because Belviq is such a new drug people aren't understanding how it really works. It isn't really like a "diet pill". It actually works by activating the brain’s response to serotonin which makes you feel happy, full. That's a big difference than how most diet pills work. It isn't like a diet pill that works in the stomach. Belviq works in the brain and helps to take cravings away, which can help a person change their bad habits. They say it takes 30 days to change or start a habit. I would much rather have some help during that 30 days taking a small blue pill, than take a chance I'm going to get frustrated and give up while trying to do it on my own. There are a lot of people out there that have serious food addictions, just like a drug addict and their drug. If there is a prescription out there that can help a person change there habits I don't see what the problem is. It's really no different than taking a high blood pressure pill, insulin and so on. Also, Belviq only works in conjunction with exercise and a balanced diet. So if a person is taking this medicine and doesn't follow the rules of it they probably won't see results. Good luck to all who have been on and are starting their journey with Belviq!0
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I'm on day 2 of trying Belviq! I read about 3 pages of this forum, and I didn't see anyone with my story, so I'll share. 9 years ago, I weighed 100lbs at 5ft. I wore a size 0 on my first date with my husband. In about a 6 month span of time, I jumped from size 0 to size 7, not changing anything fundamentally about my diet... if anything, I'd say I ate healthier in an effort to stop the weight gain. About a year after that, I was a size 12. I went to several doctors with my concerns, and told them about my symptoms which were not limited to my weight gain. Each doctor, including my family physician treated me insensitively and suggested diets like "South Beach" and "Atkins". When I got married, I worked very hard and lost about 20 lbs., unfortunately it was on the "South Beach" diet, so as soon as I started eating normally again, those 20lbs packed right back on. This was 7 years ago. About 4 years ago, a friend recommended a doctor and with some reluctance, decided to give it another go. After I told her my struggles, not only with weight gain, she didn't hesitate to tell me that I have PCOS. Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome. THANK GOD, someone finally figured it out, and testing confirmed the diagnoses. Blah Blah Blah, fast forward to present day... I'm struggling so much with weight loss. In my case, and I suspect others have the same feeling whether or not you have a genetic disorder like PCOS or thyroid issues, but, once you gain weight, I think it's soooo easy to give up. The way your weight can negatively impact your self-worth and confidence, especially for someone like me who has the disposition of PCOS... I felt like nothing I did was going to work, so screw it. .....and I stayed in that mindset for a while. I got pregnant in 2012, and I developed Preeclampsia, which was debilitating, I could barely walk and I was swollen from head to toe, literally. It opened my eyes though, because as soon as I had my son (who was healthy thank god) I felt a million times better and decided that working out and being active was something I could appreciate so much more because I knew what it was like to have that ability taken away. Through breastfeeding and 'diet' and exercise the weight just fell off! It was so much fun! I felt amazing. I breastfed for about 19 months and then..... guess what happened? Although, knowing that weight gain is possible when you quit breastfeeding I kicked up my work outs, running 4 miles a day, and doing weight training, and yoga and chasing a 20 month around.... I STILL GAINED 17lbs! This was in May 2014.... I decided this was the summer of change and that I'd give it all I had. We even booked a vacay to Mexico in October, so I had a vision of what my goal would look like on the beach! I went to a nutritionist/trainer, who after an hour of discussing what I've been doing, he agreed he didn't know much about PCOS, and to keep up with my schedule. Guess what, here we are in August, and I've lost 5lbs and gained it back (depending on the time of the month) Sure, I've gained muscle by my rigorous workout regimen, but clothes fit the same, and people tell me I took thinner, but I think it’s really just the tan I have from running on my lunch hour. I made an appointment with my doctor after hearing about a friend of mine, who also has PCOS, who lost and maintained her weight loss using phentermine. I immediately started crying when my doctor asked what I have been currently doing to lose weight. It's emotional, and I take it personally when I've worked so hard without results.... She was not hesitant to give me three options, I asked her if she was in my situation what she'd feel most comfortable taking and she chose Belviq, so... I decided to try it. I only spell out my own story because, I read what people have posted about diet and exercise being the 'true answer' to successful weight loss, and it makes me sad for others who maybe aren't in the same situation as me, but have a struggle all the same. It's ignorant, and I think its mean. So, have compassion, it truly helps no one to be judgmental while sharing an opinion. I'm not going to back off my diet and exercise, but I'll be honest, I'm super excited to see some results. So far, and only 2 pills in, I've started to have a headache... like I didn't sleep enough and need coffee headache. I'm 2 1/2 hours into my day at the office and I feel better though. Also, it's time for my snack, and I'm feeling hungry... which is good, because I don't want to starve myself. My main concern is symptoms getting worse. My life is busy and I can't function if I'm not feeling good.... and, losing the weight and getting off Belviq and gaining it right back.... I do know, that you can basically cure yourself of PCOS, at least the symptoms of it, if you can maintain a healthy weight, so I'm somewhat optimistic.... but scared at the same time. Hope this helps someone out there, who's on the fence and has a similar situation to mine.-1
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