think im giving up on the gut flab
cvcman
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im always under on my calories..ive upped my runs to 8 miles...I dont log everyday because I pretty much eat the same thing everyday...my weight is stable but the flab stays no matter what...in added in weighs....I run or bike at least an hour EVERY day 7 days a week....weights and resistance 3 times a week
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Could you describe your weights routine, please?0
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From what everyone on MFP says and everything I've read elsewhere (except by people trying to sell me something) gut flab isn't going anywhere until a person drops below whatever body fat level is required for their body to start scavenging it, and no diet or exercise routine will change that. For some of us, that means being GAUNT everywhere else. So if it's not worth it to you, don't do it.0
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If you haven't tried pilates yet, you might. All the cardio is great, I am happy for you that you do it and I am guessing it gives you great joy. My guess is that your body is accustomed to it and it has worked out a fuel plan to make that action happen. I am not saying you can spot-reduce, but you may have room to tighten the inner and outer core muscles some and that may reduce waist circumference.0
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It could be due to stress. When we are stressed, we release a hormone called cortisol. This hormone causes us to store belly fat. So if you're stressed due to life being life or it could be you're pushing your body too hard during your workouts or just stressing over losing the gut fat. Do what you can to try to relax and ease the stress.
It may also just be where your body stores fat. My body stores on the arms and legs which is also a pain to lose off of. Don't worry too much about it and keep up with the healthy choices!0 -
not stressed
weights are...squats,close hand bench press, reverse curls, pull ups, push ups, crunches, all 3 sets of 100 -
Without knowing much about you or your workout regime, there could be a few reasons.
1) Beer Belly: 'gut flab' from excess alcohol might cause this. Even if you work off those calories, I know plenty of people who get a little pudge if they drink.
2) IBS/Some gastrointestinal issue that causes bloating. This is probably unlikely if you have no history of digestive issues.
3) You aren't working out the right resistance training. Maybe less cardio and more workouts targeting the abs. Just amping cardio alone won't do it, and if you aren't pushing your resistance any further, your muscles might not be getting the workout. Also remember when exercising abs to give some love to the obliques- they actually create the nice 'chiseled' shape.
4) Stress can cause it (as Dani Canadian had pointed out)
5) You aren't sleeping enough.
It also depends on how much gut flab you have- you might want to chat with a personal trainer about it. Even a simple 1-1 discussion or a few sessions might be able to pinpoint the issue since they're trained with how to help out these kind of things.
Be happy with your body and be positive toward it, it'll return the favor : )0 -
not stressed
weights are...squats,close hand bench press, reverse curls, pull ups, push ups, crunches, all 3 sets of 10
How heavy?
If you're doing an effective program with heavy weights, you may wish to consider a bulk/cut cycle. Have you tried one yet? This could increase your chances of getting the results that you want. I suppose the theory is that you add muscle and then proceed to lose additional fat.0 -
How long have you been doing this new routine? Give yourself a couple months doing the weights - and measure/weigh everything you put in your mouth!!0
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You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.0
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The same people who will tell you to lift heavy to lose your gut will also say you can't spot reduce (guilty of saying this myself). And it's because we're all reluctant to just come out and say, 'hey, you might need to be extra lean to get rid of the gut'. Yet as far as everyone knows, your body picks where it will lose weight and nothing you can do as far as exercise and meal composition will affect that.
I try to be an optimist and assume that exercise targeting my core will at least let me suck in my gut better. That's the most I can hope for.0 -
Concentrated silliness.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results.0 -
Yeah it does seem to be the case that some people lose fat relatively evenly but for some of us we have to push our bodies to almost unhealthily skinny to get there. I am praying i am not one of those. However I am in this till my god damn gut disappears. It's me or the gut! When the dust settles only one shall remain!0
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I just looked at your food diary, one thing, you are not eating nearly enough for all the cardio you are doing. If your diary is correct I don't know how you aren't exhausted. I would suggest cutting back on the cardio and kicking up the strength training.0
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I gave up on mine too. I started doing weight training as well. If I happen to lose the belly then yay for me, if not, well I'm doing this to get stronger overall anyway.
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You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.0 -
I just looked at your food diary, one thing, you are not eating nearly enough for all the cardio you are doing. If your diary is correct I don't know how you aren't exhausted. I would suggest cutting back on the cardio and kicking up the strength training.
??? so if im " not eating enough" then I wont loose flab ??? That doesnt make any sense0 -
I just looked at your food diary, one thing, you are not eating nearly enough for all the cardio you are doing. If your diary is correct I don't know how you aren't exhausted. I would suggest cutting back on the cardio and kicking up the strength training.
??? so if im " not eating enough" then I wont loose flab ??? That doesnt make any sense
Don't listen to that. Some people here believe that eating less will slow your metabolism down to the point where you won't lose any weight. While that's not entirely true, getting enough calories and nutrition are important for muscle retention and long term health. Fuel your body properly.
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I just looked at your food diary, one thing, you are not eating nearly enough for all the cardio you are doing. If your diary is correct I don't know how you aren't exhausted. I would suggest cutting back on the cardio and kicking up the strength training.
??? so if im " not eating enough" then I wont loose flab ??? That doesnt make any sense
I know it sounds weird but are you SURE that your stomach is flabby. And that it isn't just excess skin. Because if it is excess skin then it will take time to tighten. And proper nutrition will help it happen faster.0 -
You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods. It's important you still get enough food though otherwise you don't get the nutrients you need.
I love all that food so it gets to be difficult at times, but if you're pacing yourself and only indulging every now and then you'll have better luck with your weight loss.0 -
I just looked at your food diary, one thing, you are not eating nearly enough for all the cardio you are doing. If your diary is correct I don't know how you aren't exhausted. I would suggest cutting back on the cardio and kicking up the strength training.
??? so if im " not eating enough" then I wont loose flab ??? That doesnt make any sense
I know it sounds crazy but it's true. If you don't eat enough you'll make yourself hungrier and slow down your bodies ability to burn the calories. If you eat more protein and fiber-rich foods you won't be feeling as hungry so you'll be less likely to snack and your body will actually be able to burn the calories when you're working out.0 -
LOL.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods.
400 calories is 400 calories when it comes to losing weight.0 -
You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods. It's important you still get enough food though otherwise you don't get the nutrients you need.
I love all that food so it gets to be difficult at times, but if you're pacing yourself and only indulging every now and then you'll have better luck with your weight loss.
Tell me how 400 calories of vegetables is different than 400 calories of chips when it comes to weight loss.0 -
I totally agree with this. Pilates was the only thing that helped with the "gut flab". I used to take a class just once a week and reshaped my body and strengthened my core. In the past couple of years, I have gained it back and I still have plenty of gut flab, but lately I noticed that I have reduced it by doing a moderate amount of Pilates at home . Good luck to you 0
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LOL.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods.
400 calories is 400 calories when it comes to losing weight.
Not true at all. I work out on a regular basis. For a month I ate 1400-1600 calories a day of whatever I wanted. Fast food, chips, greasy, oil covered foods and stayed at my current weight. I didn't gain weight. I was building the muscle that I wanted but I wasn't seeing any change in my weight or even inches. So I followed a friends advice and I ate clean foods. Chicken, veggies, whole wheats, fruits...I was following the same amount of calories, averaging between 1400-1600 calories a day...in the first 2 weeks I had lost 5 pounds. I'm continuing with the HEALTHY eating and i'm down 15 pounds. I do have my cheat days every now and then that stop my weight loss for a couple days but as long as i'm staying consistent with the healthy eating I continue to lose.0 -
LOL.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods.
400 calories is 400 calories when it comes to losing weight.
Not true at all. I work out on a regular basis. For a month I ate 1400-1600 calories a day of whatever I wanted. Fast food, chips, greasy, oil covered foods and stayed at my current weight. I didn't gain weight. I was building the muscle that I wanted but I wasn't seeing any change in my weight or even inches. So I followed a friends advice and I ate clean foods. Chicken, veggies, whole wheats, fruits...I was following the same amount of calories, averaging between 1400-1600 calories a day...in the first 2 weeks I had lost 5 pounds. I'm continuing with the HEALTHY eating and i'm down 15 pounds. I do have my cheat days every now and then that stop my weight loss for a couple days but as long as i'm staying consistent with the healthy eating I continue to lose.
Please don't turn this into a "my food is healthier than yours" thread. There's nothing wrong with eating what you would consider "unclean" food, and I highly doubt it was the food itself that hindered your weight loss. Congrats on your progress nonetheless.0 -
LOL.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods.
400 calories is 400 calories when it comes to losing weight.
Not true at all. I work out on a regular basis. For a month I ate 1400-1600 calories a day of whatever I wanted. Fast food, chips, greasy, oil covered foods and stayed at my current weight. I didn't gain weight. I was building the muscle that I wanted but I wasn't seeing any change in my weight or even inches. So I followed a friends advice and I ate clean foods. Chicken, veggies, whole wheats, fruits...I was following the same amount of calories, averaging between 1400-1600 calories a day...in the first 2 weeks I had lost 5 pounds. I'm continuing with the HEALTHY eating and i'm down 15 pounds. I do have my cheat days every now and then that stop my weight loss for a couple days but as long as i'm staying consistent with the healthy eating I continue to lose.
Please don't turn this into a "my food is healthier than yours" thread. There's nothing wrong with eating what you would consider "unclean" food, and I highly doubt it was the food itself that hindered your weight loss. Congrats on your progress nonetheless.
Someone asked advise and I gave the advise that worked for me. I've tried a lot of things and what i've seen the most success with was eating healthy combined with working out. If that's not something someone wants to do, that's fine. I'm just simply stating what i've found works for me.0 -
It is completely true. That you don't understand it and try to use anecdotal info to prove it really isn't my problem. But, if that's what you call proof, I've lost 47 pounds eating chips, ice cream, Oreos, Lucky Charms, pound cake, gelato, etc.
LOL.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods.
400 calories is 400 calories when it comes to losing weight.
Not true at all. I work out on a regular basis. For a month I ate 1400-1600 calories a day of whatever I wanted. Fast food, chips, greasy, oil covered foods and stayed at my current weight. I didn't gain weight. I was building the muscle that I wanted but I wasn't seeing any change in my weight or even inches. So I followed a friends advice and I ate clean foods. Chicken, veggies, whole wheats, fruits...I was following the same amount of calories, averaging between 1400-1600 calories a day...in the first 2 weeks I had lost 5 pounds. I'm continuing with the HEALTHY eating and i'm down 15 pounds. I do have my cheat days every now and then that stop my weight loss for a couple days but as long as i'm staying consistent with the healthy eating I continue to lose.
A calorie is a calorie, for purposes of weight loss. Period.0 -
It is completely true. That you don't understand it and try to use anecdotal info to prove it really isn't my problem. But, if that's what you call proof, I've lost 47 pounds eating chips, ice cream, Oreos, Lucky Charms, pound cake, gelato, etc.
LOL.You'll want to stay as close as possible to your calorie level. How far under are you typically? It also depends on what type of calories you are consuming. If you're counting calories but they're all bad calories you aren't going to see very many results. Maybe see if you can find a healthy meal plan to follow. That combined with your workouts should really help.
Please explain to me the difference between a good calorie and a bad calorie and how our body can tell.
A good calorie would be something along the lines of veggies, lean protein such as chicken, white fish, eggs, greek yogurt, healthy fats like avocados, almonds and whole grain breads and pastas. 400 calories of vegetables is going to go a lot further than 400 calories of grease and oil such as chips and fried foods and fast foods.
400 calories is 400 calories when it comes to losing weight.
Not true at all. I work out on a regular basis. For a month I ate 1400-1600 calories a day of whatever I wanted. Fast food, chips, greasy, oil covered foods and stayed at my current weight. I didn't gain weight. I was building the muscle that I wanted but I wasn't seeing any change in my weight or even inches. So I followed a friends advice and I ate clean foods. Chicken, veggies, whole wheats, fruits...I was following the same amount of calories, averaging between 1400-1600 calories a day...in the first 2 weeks I had lost 5 pounds. I'm continuing with the HEALTHY eating and i'm down 15 pounds. I do have my cheat days every now and then that stop my weight loss for a couple days but as long as i'm staying consistent with the healthy eating I continue to lose.
A calorie is a calorie, for purposes of weight loss. Period.
Congratulations on your weight loss. That's great. I'm just simply stating what has worked for me.0 -
From what everyone on MFP says and everything I've read elsewhere (except by people trying to sell me something) gut flab isn't going anywhere until a person drops below whatever body fat level is required for their body to start scavenging it, and no diet or exercise routine will change that. For some of us, that means being GAUNT everywhere else. So if it's not worth it to you, don't do it.
Yes, the bolded part is true.
The bit about being gaunt and that no diet or exercise routine will change it is not. You can lower %BF in two ways.
1) Cutting only. This is the method that leads to gauntness in some, no matter the exercise they do.
2) Bulk and cut. Build muscle and add some fat, then cut the fat and some muscle. Rinse and repeat until you get to where you want to be. Tailor your workouts to put muscle where you tend to be gaunt.
So, OP, I'd start a bulk if you're as lean as you want to get and want to give it one last shot.0
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