Negative Language About Thin People

It goes both ways. If you're overweight, you're disgusting. If you're thin or underweight, you're disgusting. Men seem to focus on making life hell for bigger women (other women do too) and women focus on making life hell for smaller ones.

Oh what the hell ever. Few men are out there making life hell for big chicks. You're ridiculous.

Actually there's a whole subculture of men who perpetuate hate for women in general. It's just since it's not socially acceptable it's kept underground. I've been privvy to a few conversations myself with men who I thought were decent guys... got a little too comfortable around me and started showing their inner self. Hell, take a look at the website www.returnofkings.com or any PUA website.

Actually, I'm going to allow you to reread this and figure out why it does not support your original assertion. With a bit of luck you will find it asinine and irrelevant too.

It goes both ways. If you're overweight, you're disgusting. If you're thin or underweight, you're disgusting. Men seem to focus on making life hell for bigger women (other women do too) and women focus on making life hell for smaller ones.

Oh what the hell ever. Few men are out there making life hell for big chicks. You're ridiculous.

Actually there's a whole subculture of men who perpetuate hate for women in general. It's just since it's not socially acceptable it's kept underground. I've been privvy to a few conversations myself with men who I thought were decent guys... got a little too comfortable around me and started showing their inner self. Hell, take a look at the website www.returnofkings.com or any PUA website.

Actually, I'm going to allow you to reread this and figure out why it does not support your original assertion. With a bit of luck you will find it asinine and irrelevant too.

You said "few men" my point was there's more than just a "few" :flowerforyou:

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It goes both ways. If you're overweight, you're disgusting. If you're thin or underweight, you're disgusting. Men seem to focus on making life hell for bigger women (other women do too) and women focus on making life hell for smaller ones.

Oh what the hell ever. Few men are out there making life hell for big chicks. You're ridiculous.

Actually there's a whole subculture of men who perpetuate hate for women in general. It's just since it's not socially acceptable it's kept underground. I've been privvy to a few conversations myself with men who I thought were decent guys... got a little too comfortable around me and started showing their inner self. Hell, take a look at the website www.returnofkings.com or any PUA website.

How are these men specifically targeting larger women (which was your original point)?

They had a whole week dedicated to targeting fat women. Read some of the articles. I think the hashtag #fatshaming or something like that.

Wow, blanket statements made based on a twitter trend? You're neglecting that there's also a subculture of men who revere "BBWs". The men you're referring to are hateful people on principle. You can't base your opinion of the entire male population based on the behaviors of one specific group.

I don't and I've never implied that I have. I was pointing out that men are just as guilty of perpetuating body shaming as women are. Like it or not. BTW, that twitter trend was thought of, perpetuated by, and continued by that one specific website.

Way to backpedal. You said men make life hell for big women. Now you are saying that men also perpetuate body shaming. That I will not deny, as that is a societal issue, not a gender issue.

But still nothing to support men, as a rule, make life hell for big women.

It goes both ways. If you're overweight, you're disgusting. If you're thin or underweight, you're disgusting. Men seem to focus on making life hell for bigger women (other women do too) and women focus on making life hell for smaller ones.

Oh what the hell ever. Few men are out there making life hell for big chicks. You're ridiculous.

Actually there's a whole subculture of men who perpetuate hate for women in general. It's just since it's not socially acceptable it's kept underground. I've been privvy to a few conversations myself with men who I thought were decent guys... got a little too comfortable around me and started showing their inner self. Hell, take a look at the website www.returnofkings.com or any PUA website.

Actually, I'm going to allow you to reread this and figure out why it does not support your original assertion. With a bit of luck you will find it asinine and irrelevant too.

You said "few men" my point was there's more than just a "few" :flowerforyou:

Take a step back and look at the bigger picture (no pun intended), and you will find that there are many wonderful men out there supporting and lifting up "big" women. Take a look at this site alone and odds are you are going to see some really amazing guys who are cheering on women who are overweight. There are very few...VERY few...who talk down about women in general on here. MFP is just a very small sample of what you will find IRL. If you are seeing men fat shaming, then perhaps you need to surround yourself with better men.

Unfortunately, it's just tough out there for women. Like it or not, in general, a woman's value is often linked to her appearance. That's why there's as much backstabbing, crap-talking, jealousy, crabs in a barrel type stuff going on. A man's value isn't linked to their looks.

I hesitate to blame any side, men or women. Of course, we don't have to buy into it. But our society as a whole does. It doesn't make it right that women are so nasty to each other sometimes, but that's just the way it plays out. It's really sad and a really terrible cycle that women haven't been able to break out of, and until our culture as a whole changes, it will continue.

I will honestly say, and maybe it's because other women don't perceive me as a threat. But I have never outright had another woman say anything nasty to me about my size or my looks. Maybe i'm just not hot and thin enough.

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Take a step back and look at the bigger picture (no pun intended), and you will find that there are many wonderful men out there supporting and lifting up "big" women. Take a look at this site alone and odds are you are going to see some really amazing guys who are cheering on women who are overweight. There are very few...VERY few...who talk down about women in general on here. MFP is just a very small sample of what you will find IRL. If you are seeing men fat shaming, then perhaps you need to surround yourself with better men.

I know that and I never meant to imply otherwise. I was giving an example. I have a very loving and supporting spouse of 10 years. I know that not all men hate big women. I know that there are supportive people.

Wow, blanket statements made based on a twitter trend? You're neglecting that there's also a subculture of men who revere "BBWs". The men you're referring to are hateful people on principle. You can't base your opinion of the entire male population based on the behaviors of one specific group.

Um...you're aware of the term "BBC" too, right?

Being fetishized is soooooo flattering!

The term BBW is based on the singling out heavy female bodies in the same way that BBC singles out black male bodies. Despite the fact that people seek out those who fit those terms, they are both offensive in my opinion.

Just because you find it offensive doesn't mean that those being targeted are offended. I have a friend who is very over weight and she is proud of it. That lady gets a ton of action. It's a lifestyle she enjoys. To each their own.

I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with the "BBW and BBW admirer" community.

I'm pro-fetish. If you want to be a feedee and have someone force feed you so you gain weight for their pleasure, go at it. If it provides you an outlet to get laid and you like that, that's cool. Consenting adults can do whatever they want.

But there's a very clear difference between attraction and fetishization. And if you're on fetish websites enough, you see that the same kind of fetish exists for extremely skinny women who have jutting out ribs. It becomes not about the woman herself, but about the "weird" aspects of her body.

And I'm speaking as someone who has been fetishized. I'm almost 6'1" and I've gotten attention from men who fetishize my height. I don't particularly find it flattering to have someone focus on that one aspect of my entire body and being.

Something loved ones tell me quite frequently to keep in mind: A comment about your body weight/shape has nothing to do with your self worth. It is simply a statement about your physical appearance. Only you can link those two together- your self worth and your physical appearance.

Now, I agree, society has dragged us to this place where women are taught those two are linked together. But it's up to each of us to decide if we're going to continue to own that mindset or own the battle to change it for ourselves.

But since, as you said yourself, it's not socially acceptable, how can you blame society for it? You're saying that these websites exist, so that proves men are jerks, but also saying that they're an underground sub-culture that isn't socially acceptable. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

If your entire point is that not 100% of men are nice, and you can prove that because one hateful website that NO ONE cares about exists, can we please move on?

Like I said before, stop hanging out with *kitten* and then blaming men for it. Those aren't men. Those are misogynistic little boys who belong in prison. Real men support women, regardless of their weight.

It's not acceptable and they get reamed for it. It doesn't mean it's not rampant even if it is underground. I don't hang out with *kitten* in general. You're missing the point.

It goes both ways. If you're overweight, you're disgusting. If you're thin or underweight, you're disgusting. Men seem to focus on making life hell for bigger women

If you believe that's true, you need to hang around better quality men.

Every woman on earth has experienced it.

Untrue. No one has ever made either of those types of comments towards me. Not when I was a skinny b*tch, not when I was obese, and not now that I am thin again.

Probably because you are a pleasant person, would be my guest.

The thing is also, if you are kind to people if you smile if you treat the world with respect...
They are going to have a LOT less to say about your appearance.

Men seem to focus on making life hell for bigger women (other women do too) and women focus on making life hell for smaller ones.

women are awful..

Oh lord.

Why do we seem so alive to the minority of troublemakers but not to the majority of good people?

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