1200 cal is NOT enough
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That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.0 -
Honestly, I do between 1200-1300 a day, and I feel great. I am 6'4 and was at 360lbs. Now, I am down to 270 by maintaining that 6 days a week. It works for me.
That is really sad. Your BMR is 2279.
yet I have lost a lot of weight and feel great. Also, this was under my doctors recommendation. So, how is that sad?
Trust your doctor I guess. If I was you I would get a new doctor. You are under eating severely.0 -
It's recommended here for weight loss, which by its nature is temporary and applies to those with excess body fat to use for energy in a deficit. You are 5'8" and 130. It's not going to tell you 1200 unless you tell it you want to lose weight. You don't have weight to lose. If you did really need to lose 2 lbs., you'd lose it in a couple weeks and avoid the hospital.What gets me about the "1200 is dangerous" mentality is why people don't see that if it truly was, MFP would be open to all kinds of litigation for using it as their floor.
I truly believe it's not dangerous for anyone. You see 1200 and values like it used in all kinds of plans and apps. A lot don't even have floors (Fitbit, for example, as well as any diet plan that doesn't include calorie counting).
It's recommended here for weight loss, which by its nature is temporary and applies to those with excess body fat to use for energy in a deficit.
It is NOT for everyone. 1200 diet is a joke. It isn't one size fits all. Its bogus, I would not survive on 1200. I tried it before and you know where it got me? THE HOSPITAL. I would never ever suggest it to someone for no reason at all without any consideration of their height/weight/age/gender.
All these fad diets and books suggesting 1200 are just out to make money and don't give a crap about your health.
You understand how MFP arrives at 1200, right? It's just math and it does consider one's height, weight, gender and age.
This was when I was OVERWEIGHT. 1200 was not enough. Especially with exercise. I do not trust MFP calculations.0 -
That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.
Nobody is saying 1200 is right for You.
Doesn't make it BS for all other people.
Yes I know you keep saying you know this - but then you seem to post things contradicting it. :indifferent:0 -
so, a 30+ year experienced doctor knows less than a 19 year old student?0
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That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.
Nobody is saying 1200 is right for You.
Doesn't make it BS for all other people.
Yes I know you keep saying you know this - but then you seem to post things contradicting it. :indifferent:
Did you read the entire post? They literally said "1200 is the minimum someone should be eating-"0 -
I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child. {snip}
6 foot tall, 35 year old male. I'm doing just fine on 1260 calories a day and have been for weeks. It sounds like a lot of people on this form are doing fine as well. I would suggest that the exception is you, not us.0 -
What gets me about the "1200 is dangerous" mentality is why people don't see that if it truly was, MFP would be open to all kinds of litigation for using it as their floor.
I truly believe it's not dangerous for anyone. You see 1200 and values like it used in all kinds of plans and apps. A lot don't even have floors (Fitbit, for example, as well as any diet plan that doesn't include calorie counting).
It's recommended here for weight loss, which by its nature is temporary and applies to those with excess body fat to use for energy in a deficit.
It is NOT for everyone. 1200 diet is a joke. It isn't one size fits all. Its bogus, I would not survive on 1200. I tried it before and you know where it got me? THE HOSPITAL. I would never ever suggest it to someone for no reason at all without any consideration of their height/weight/age/gender.
All these fad diets and books suggesting 1200 are just out to make money and don't give a crap about your health.
Now the truth comes out...0 -
so, a 30+ year experienced doctor knows less than a 19 year old student?
I am NOT saying that, but be cautious. Credentials don't always mean they give the best advice. I would get a second opinion. Look at Doctor Oz for example! He gives horrible weight loss advice.0 -
What gets me about the "1200 is dangerous" mentality is why people don't see that if it truly was, MFP would be open to all kinds of litigation for using it as their floor.
I truly believe it's not dangerous for anyone. You see 1200 and values like it used in all kinds of plans and apps. A lot don't even have floors (Fitbit, for example, as well as any diet plan that doesn't include calorie counting).
It's recommended here for weight loss, which by its nature is temporary and applies to those with excess body fat to use for energy in a deficit.
It is NOT for everyone. 1200 diet is a joke. It isn't one size fits all. Its bogus, I would not survive on 1200. I tried it before and you know where it got me? THE HOSPITAL. I would never ever suggest it to someone for no reason at all without any consideration of their height/weight/age/gender.
All these fad diets and books suggesting 1200 are just out to make money and don't give a crap about your health.
Now the truth comes out...
What are you talking about? it was a secret. I tried all those lame fad diets before I learned about proper health and nutrition.0 -
Honestly, I do between 1200-1300 a day, and I feel great. I am 6'4 and was at 360lbs. Now, I am down to 270 by maintaining that 6 days a week. It works for me.
That is really sad. Your BMR is 2279.
yet I have lost a lot of weight and feel great. Also, this was under my doctors recommendation. So, how is that sad?
Trust your doctor I guess. If I was you I would get a new doctor. You are under eating severely.
He said he eats that 6 days per week.
Depending how much he eats on the 7th day, his weekly average could be quite high -and it is really only the weekly average that matters, not the amount on any individual day.0 -
I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child. {snip}
6 foot tall, 35 year old male. I'm doing just fine on 1260 calories a day and have been for weeks. It sounds like a lot of people on this form are doing fine as well. I would suggest that the exception is you, not us.
You are under eating.0 -
Honestly, I do between 1200-1300 a day, and I feel great. I am 6'4 and was at 360lbs. Now, I am down to 270 by maintaining that 6 days a week. It works for me.
That is really sad. Your BMR is 2279.
yet I have lost a lot of weight and feel great. Also, this was under my doctors recommendation. So, how is that sad?
Trust your doctor I guess. If I was you I would get a new doctor. You are under eating severely.
He said he eats that 6 days per week.
Depending how much he eats on the 7th day, his weekly average could be quite high -and it is really only the weekly average that matters, not the amount on any individual day.
There is no way his one day of eating more than that will equal out 6 days of under eating.0 -
That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.
Nobody is saying 1200 is right for You.
Doesn't make it BS for all other people.
Yes I know you keep saying you know this - but then you seem to post things contradicting it. :indifferent:
Did you read the entire post? They literally said "1200 is the minimum someone should be eating-"
Yes I read the post.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating.
Someone, not everyone.0 -
That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.
Nobody is saying 1200 is right for You.
Doesn't make it BS for all other people.
Yes I know you keep saying you know this - but then you seem to post things contradicting it. :indifferent:
Did you read the entire post? They literally said "1200 is the minimum someone should be eating-"
Do you understand the difference between "minimum" and "maximum"? 1200 minimum means eating AT LEAST 1200; or DON'T GO BELOW 1200, not 1200 calories is the cap of what you should eat.0 -
And since not everyone is aiming that low, there's no reason to be castigating everyone for not eating enough.I said "1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone"
So you posted in the fora, where it's unlikely many of your friends would see it, as opposed to on your own timeline (where they would definitely see it), or even in PMs to the offenders (ditto).The whole reason I even made this post is because I noticed most people on my friends list were under eating
Makes perfect sense.
Didn't you start out by saying that they were under-eating and expecting fast results?
I dont think they have eating disordersIf you have a friendslist full of people with eating disorders, I sympathize0 -
Honestly, I do between 1200-1300 a day, and I feel great. I am 6'4 and was at 360lbs. Now, I am down to 270 by maintaining that 6 days a week. It works for me.
That is really sad. Your BMR is 2279.
yet I have lost a lot of weight and feel great. Also, this was under my doctors recommendation. So, how is that sad?
Trust your doctor I guess. If I was you I would get a new doctor. You are under eating severely.
He said he eats that 6 days per week.
Depending how much he eats on the 7th day, his weekly average could be quite high -and it is really only the weekly average that matters, not the amount on any individual day.
There is no way his one day of eating more than that will equal out 6 days of under eating.
Well, I guess only he can answer that.
I don't see how it is not possible though.0 -
This is one of those moments that I wish time travel were possible... so that the OP's 40- or 50-something year old, post-menopausal self who has a sedentary 9-5 job can come back and whack her upside the head and say "WTH were you thinking?"
I thought I knew everything at 19 years old, too.
Sincerely,
A 45-year old, post-menopausal woman with a 9-5 desk job -- who managed to lose HEALTHFULLY at 1200 calories/day and has been successfully maintaining for 2.5 years at 1400 calories/day.0 -
That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.
Nobody is saying 1200 is right for You.
Doesn't make it BS for all other people.
Yes I know you keep saying you know this - but then you seem to post things contradicting it. :indifferent:
Did you read the entire post? They literally said "1200 is the minimum someone should be eating-"
Do you understand the difference between "minimum" and "maximum"? 1200 minimum means eating AT LEAST 1200; or DON'T GO BELOW 1200, not 1200 calories is the cap of what you should eat.
I understand completely, 1200 is not a minimum. It is way too little for someone my size, even if i was sedentary.0 -
That's the medically-established minimum, yes.
1200 is the minimum someone? Isn't this what I JUST got yelled at for because a statement like that ignores a persons height, weight, gender, age. 1200 IS NOT a universal number.
1200 is the minimum someone should be eating unless they're under the supervision of a doctor (or are very short).I see a lot of people on here do not know how much to eat. 1200 is practically the amount for a small child.
... 1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)
Will you believe Harvard Medical School? (I'm pretty sure they know what they're talking about.)
http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/HB_web/calorie-counting-made-easy.htm
calorie intake should not fall below 1,200 a day in women or 1,500 a day in men, except under the supervision of a health professional
Maybe you'll learn about this once you start classes.
I did already. it is a load of crap. it landed me in the HOSPITAL. What the heck. Doctors suggest these BS diets all the time doesn't mean they are right.
Nobody is saying 1200 is right for You.
Doesn't make it BS for all other people.
Yes I know you keep saying you know this - but then you seem to post things contradicting it. :indifferent:
Did you read the entire post? They literally said "1200 is the minimum someone should be eating-"
Do you understand the difference between "minimum" and "maximum"? 1200 minimum means eating AT LEAST 1200; or DON'T GO BELOW 1200, not 1200 calories is the cap of what you should eat.
I understand completely, My point is that 1200 is not a minimum. It is way too little for someone my size, even if i was sedentary.0 -
Well I just started last week with this account but I can say I been dieting with 1200-1300 sometimes less calories a day and excessive amount of exercise (over 1,000 minutes of exercise a week). While it might land someone in the hospital, make other binge, cause some health problems... all of which I haven't suffered from yet and have had great loss in weight. All I have to say is not everyone is the same and I will follow this way because it works for me.
Now you mean say, well the "yet" will come. It should of already came for me. I've done some insane exercise abuse that should of put me out cold. The first few weeks sure I was dizzy but my body eventually got used to it.0 -
This is one of those moments that I wish time travel were possible... so that the OP's 40- or 50-something year old, post-menopausal self who has a sedentary 9-5 job can come back and whack her upside the head and say "WTH were you thinking?"
I thought I knew everything at 19 years old, too.
Sincerely,
A 45-year old, post-menopausal woman with a 9-5 desk job -- who managed to lose HEALTHFULLY at 1200 calories/day and has been successfully maintaining for 2.5 years at 1400 calories/day.
I already addressed this, I corrected myself and said it was healthy for someone in your circumstances.0 -
Sooooo......if you want to eat more than 1200 calories then do it. Nobody is stopping you from eating what you feel you need to eat. Ranting and throwing a hissy fit on how some of us do things isn't changing anything. I will do what I want and how I want and if there are repercussions because of it, it will be me who has to deal with it. Bees to honey darling. Raging about this doesn't get anyone anywhere.0
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Well I just started last week with this account but I can say I been dieting with 1200-1300 sometimes less calories a day and excessive amount of exercise (over 1,000 minutes of exercise a week). While it might land someone in the hospital, make other binge, cause some health problems... all of which I haven't suffered from yet and have had great loss in weight. All I have to say is not everyone is the same and I will follow this way because it works for me.
Now you mean say, well the "yet" will come. It should of already came for me. I've done some insane exercise abuse that should of put me out cold. The first few weeks sure I was dizzy but my body eventually got used to it.
This is unhealthy. You will get sick.0 -
Sooooo......if you want to eat more than 1200 calories then do it. Nobody is stopping you from eating what you feel you need to eat. Ranting and throwing a hissy fit on how some of us do things isn't changing anything. I will do what I want and how I want and if there are repercussions because of it, it will be me who has to deal with it. Bees to honey darling. Raging about this doesn't get anyone anywhere.
You clearly did not read all the post. I do eat more than 1200 (2200-2500), you missed my point that 1200 isnt healthy for everyone. I was replying to someone trying to say that it is.0 -
If you were eating 1420 cal per day, you would maintain your weight at about 95 lb.My BMR is only 1420. If I still wanted to lose weight I would not be eating a measly 1200-1400 calories a day. Its ridiculous.
To maintain at 130 lb, 1950 cal.
But if someone were trying to lose weight to get to 130 lb, eating 1300 is reasonable. One you get close, start nudging the calories up by 50-100 every couple weeks until you get to 1900.
Oh? So you didn't really say what you said?
"1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone (or anyone really)I never said all. Don't misquote me. I said for MOST people.
There have already been multiple explanations of why someone might be perfectly fine at 1200, and no, they're not damaging their body, and no, they aren't being dishonest about logging what they eat.Some of you saying "im fine on 1200 calories" You are damaging your body. Like the OP said, figure out your bmr and tdee. If you cant lose on more than 1200 calories then you are eating more than you think.
A "nutritionist"? Don't you mean a dietician? Or do you really mean that you're going to some "college" of alternative "medicine" and getting a quack certificate?A 19 year old going to school to be a Nutritionist knows something about nutrition, wow imagine that!
Apparently you haven't actually gotten into any nutrition science classes yet, because I'm sure they'll teach you that everyone is different, and there are some people who will need fewer calories than others.
In fact, if you're relatively average you're maybe starting your sophomore year next month, so you're still working on your general ed classes.
Oh, wait:
Hmmm... so far I've had 4 college courses specifically focussing on nutrition, and many more which mentioned it in discussing other things (pathophysiology, for one).When school starts I will let ya know...
I took a short course last year, but the actual classes and stuff doesn't start for another month
And you don't even understand the difference between "minimum" and "maximum".
Maybe that's why you ended up in the hospital from some fad diet?0 -
Well I just started last week with this account but I can say I been dieting with 1200-1300 sometimes less calories a day and excessive amount of exercise (over 1,000 minutes of exercise a week). While it might land someone in the hospital, make other binge, cause some health problems... all of which I haven't suffered from yet and have had great loss in weight. All I have to say is not everyone is the same and I will follow this way because it works for me.
Now you mean say, well the "yet" will come. It should of already came for me. I've done some insane exercise abuse that should of put me out cold. The first few weeks sure I was dizzy but my body eventually got used to it.
This is unhealthy. You will get sick.
Honestly, I did this before to get from 210 to 171 lbs while power lifting... again not everyone is the same. I should of passed out back then too.
You just want me to get sick so you can believe it isn't possible for anyone.
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And since not everyone is aiming that low, there's no reason to be castigating everyone for not eating enough.I said "1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone"
So you posted in the fora, where it's unlikely many of your friends would see it, as opposed to on your own timeline (where they would definitely see it), or even in PMs to the offenders (ditto).The whole reason I even made this post is because I noticed most people on my friends list were under eating
Makes perfect sense.
Didn't you start out by saying that they were under-eating and expecting fast results?
I dont think they have eating disordersIf you have a friendslist full of people with eating disorders, I sympathize
Under eating is not the same as having an eating disorder. Plenty of people under eat but don't have an eating disorder. You can also over eat and have one, or over eat and not have one.0 -
What exactly about 1200 landed you in the hospital? How long were you eating at 1200? What was your weight and age then? Was undereating a doctor's diagnosis or your own? What was your activity level like? Are you sure you weren't eating a lot less than 1200? Was it 1200 in Starbucks and Taco Bell? Could it have been dehydration instead? Was there concerns over eating disorders then?0
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Wow.. this is really petty.
She gave her opinion in a maybe not-so-nice way. She got a few replies and probably realized that her post was socially and scientifically not ok.
She applied the standards she uses for herself to the rest of MFP, not ok.. but she realized her fault and apologized. And all of you "mature" older people continue to ostracize her for it.
Could you all back off and stop being so petty? Maybe read the replies before you post another angry one, AGAIN?0
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