Sorry boys, this question is for the ladies!!!
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And I totally see why you would want to get other women's opinions... some workout programs are clearly designed around the places and ways that men gain muscle. IMO all opinions are useful but I would be most likely to be influenced by opinions of those who started in similar circumstances to myself (age, weight height and yes, sex.)
that's not how lifting, gaining, "toning" works.
there are no programs for "men" that aren't not acceptable for women. There are only GOOD programs- and BAD programs.
They feed that trash to women through magazines and other outlets for whatever reason- it's exhausting.
^So much this! (we do agree more often then not!)
ghirhihim - I do the same exact workout as the men and I love it. The only thing I tailor specific to me is the weight I'm lifting, the height of the box I'm jumping and the number of calories I can eat.0 -
And I totally see why you would want to get other women's opinions... some workout programs are clearly designed around the places and ways that men gain muscle. IMO all opinions are useful but I would be most likely to be influenced by opinions of those who started in similar circumstances to myself (age, weight height and yes, sex.)
that's not how lifting, gaining, "toning" works.
there are no programs for "men" that aren't not acceptable for women. There are only GOOD programs- and BAD programs.
They feed that trash to women through magazines and other outlets for whatever reason- it's exhausting.
^So much this! (we do agree more often then not!)
ghirhihim - I do the same exact workout as the men and I love it. The only thing I tailor specific to me is the weight I'm lifting, the height of the box I'm jumping and the number of calories I can eat.
troof... on both accounts
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And I totally see why you would want to get other women's opinions... some workout programs are clearly designed around the places and ways that men gain muscle. IMO all opinions are useful but I would be most likely to be influenced by opinions of those who started in similar circumstances to myself (age, weight height and yes, sex.)
that's not how lifting, gaining, "toning" works.
there are no programs for "men" that aren't not acceptable for women. There are only GOOD programs- and BAD programs.
They feed that trash to women through magazines and other outlets for whatever reason- it's exhausting.
This is just silly.
To exemplify my point I spent just a moment over at the Smithsonian website on a single exercise (I chose pull-ups because my boyfriend [of slightly higher laziness] can do them)
"a combination of women’s low levels of testosterone, higher body fat percentage and less ease at building muscle means that women fare worse than men at performing pull-ups."
"Is it usually harder for a woman to do a pullup than it is for a man, due to biological differences in muscle mass and upper body strength and body fat percentages? Yes. It is generally harder for women to do pullups." - The Smithsonian + 2 minutes of internet.
I am not saying women can not get to the same fitness level or muscle building as men, but it is totally valid to seek info about the experiences of other women in the context of health and fitness.
All this aside, I think this argument is not in the spirit of the original post and I think it is disrespectful to continue it here.0 -
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Jeebus, wtf did I just read? Pullups? lulz.0 -
1.) I think the OP doesn't understand that there is little difference in training- so I think it's a valid subject to discuss
2.) So what. Men have a hard time bearing children- but if they did- the process would be the same.
If you did a pull up program it wouldn't be a pull up program for women.
It would just be a pull up program.
And as far as lower testosterone- and have a harder time building muscle- that's EXACTLY why there are no women's vs men's programs. (And by that I mean real programs- not some stupid 5 exercises to a better you in Cosmo "program)
It's a training program. The results will be different based on how you are eating- how long you're training and how much extra stuff you're taking (or not) but the program is designed to train muscles, make them bigger- sculpt them whatever the goal is.
Period- it is irrelevant of your gender.
You're muscles do these things
> they grow
> they get smaller
> or they get stronger
Gender means nothing to that process.
PS- I can do 10+ pull ups and over 50 in a working set when I chose to do so.
Women tend to suck at doing pull ups because they don't train for them and they don't have he muscle activation awareness- but power to weight ratio we are a great fit for doing pull ups because we tend to be smaller. smaller body = less weight to pull0 -
Whether a male or female, exercise doesn't discriminate against either gender. Where people fail is in commitment, discipline, lack of execution and consumption of calories.
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1.) I think the OP doesn't understand that there is little difference in training- so I think it's a valid subject to discuss
2.) So what. Men have a hard time bearing children- but if they did- the process would be the same.
If you did a pull up program it wouldn't be a pull up program for women.
It would just be a pull up program.
And as far as lower testosterone- and have a harder time building muscle- that's EXACTLY why there are no women's vs men's programs. (And by that I mean real programs- not some stupid 5 exercises to a better you in Cosmo "program)
It's a training program. The results will be different based on how you are eating- how long you're training and how much extra stuff you're taking (or not) but the program is designed to train muscles, make them bigger- sculpt them whatever the goal is.
Period- it is irrelevant of your gender.
You're muscles do these things
> they grow
> they get smaller
> or they get stronger
Gender means nothing to that process.
PS- I can do 10+ pull ups and over 50 in a working set when I chose to do so.
Women tend to suck at doing pull ups because they don't train for them and they don't have he muscle activation awareness- but power to weight ratio we are a great fit for doing pull ups because we tend to be smaller. smaller body = less weight to pull
Yes, if you take a man and a woman of exactly the same muscle mass and in the same concentrations in the same places, I would tend to agree with you, but I think averages are completely valid.
Men's pelvic bones are not structured for childbirth but I get your sentiment.
Congrats on your pull-up capabilities, I am working my butt off to try and catch up ;P0 -
you'll get there- training consistency and muscle activation are the two big ones- for some odd reason- pull ups and using those back muscles for women is just insanely difficult- but you'll get it sorted out- just keep on keeping on- I promise- it'll happen.0
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Holy crap people, I asked women because sorry men you don't have boobs that get in the way or a Tom which is a pain in the *kitten*. I've already had my male friends give me their opinion so I was looking for the female since none of my female friends have done it. Didn't know the whole site was going to jump down my throat about it
if your TOM is a pain in the *kitten* then your bleeding from the wrong place...
baw ha ha ha ha- I may have snorted my coffee.
I might have snorted my coffee, if I didn't just knock it off my table, LOL!!0 -
One day I actually forgot my sports bra (I am a DDD/E for the record...) and I could still do a majority of the workout. I just rowed instead of running.
Point being, my gym is great and +1 for crossfit. I have made the yearly commitment XD0 -
too funny0
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Holy crap people, I asked women because sorry men you don't have boobs that get in the way or a Tom which is a pain in the *kitten*. I've already had my male friends give me their opinion so I was looking for the female since none of my female friends have done it. Didn't know the whole site was going to jump down my throat about it
Can we all just stop giving men the idea that our monthly periods are such a crippling affliction? It happens, cramps are normal, work through it. And unless you are packing FF boobs, there should be no reason why any exercise you do is modified or different from something a man does. Get it together women!
Well, I DO have ff's and my trainer has had to modify exercises for me because I can't stretch my arms across my body the way it requires because my TITS ARE THERE.0
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