Over 40% of US Adults have Insulin Resistance

Telling people with insulin resistance, thyroid disorder, PCOS, etc. to simply keep cutting calories not a healthy solution AT ALL. And can be downright dangerous for some.

but that's why it's up to them to go to their doctor and rule those things out first?

very few people on these forums are doctors or able to give people blood tests simply by reading their post. for the majority of people (as implied in your own OP) calories in and calories are all that matters. it's also pretty much assumed that people who are asking for advice have been to the doctor.

you cant very well expect the people who are asked for their advice and opinion to know intimate details of an OP's health :laugh:

Not knowing the details of someone's medical record/history and not being a doctor are both valid and excellent reasons for not attempting to advise them.

I don't think most people do visit the doctor. If they did, they wouldn't ask a lot of the questions they do.

So if it's 43.3% of EVERYONE and insulin resistance makes it difficult to lose/maintain weight (weight gain is one of the symptoms), it's not a stretch to think that it's wholly possible, if not even likely, that over 50% of overweight/obese people have insulin resistance.

yeah it is a stretch because you are essentially trying to double count obese people.

No, I'm saying it's more likely that healthy weight individuals don't have insulin resistance. It would be reducing the denominator total.

how so more than likely?
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/47/5/699.abstract
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0019878

Seriously, you don't understand this? If the factor X (in this case, insulin resistance) contributes to weight gain, then it's likely that a higher percentage of those with weight gain have it rather than those without weight gain (i.e. not overweight/obese).

This is pretty basic...

yes it's pretty basic if you're into trying to explain things via disjointed logic

you're basically saying if x is a contributing factor to y, then x is the main contributing factor to y. see there's a step missing there and you're attempting to fill it in with proofiness. even after i listed 2 links with studies that show that a significant amount of those with prediabetes aren't obese :laugh:

also there's this:

Obesity adversely impacts existing endocrine and metabolic disorders. In fact, one out of every five overweight people is affected by the metabolic syndrome, or “Syndrome X26.”

from here:
http://obesityinamerica.org/understanding-obesity/obesity-related-diseases/
20% is indeed a a lot but it by no means is a majority






i'd guess people dont know
- because they dont regularly visit their doctor
- they regularly go and aren't following up with getting blood tests
- they were diagnosed but are in denial about it.

i agree that for those with hormonal and adrenal issues that they have to be a bit more diligent than just count calories, but what i dont get is the leap to assume that the majority of obese people have this issue, or even the majority of people on MFP who post "why arent i losing weight?" threads have this issue, especially when the very evidence you seem to be trying to use to support your claim contradicts you.

it also sounds too close to an excuse or an easy out. if someone legitimately has issues then that's one thing, if they dont have issues but dont want to be held accountable (by their goals not anyone else ) for how much they are eating then that's another thing


of course i havent read all of those "why am i not losing weight" threads , but for the majority of the ones i've seen they were people who were underestimating how much they were eating

I'll just pull up a chair here...

Just read the thread, now i get it :-)

if you want an excuse, you will find an excuse. when you are ready to actually lose weight, you will. only point the finger at yourself - anything else is an excuse.

You clearly know nothing about insulin resistance. How cute.

You should probably check this out… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3oI104STzs.

I have no idea if that exact percentage is correct. But it doesn't surprise me, and is, unfortunately, only going to get worse in most countries including the U.S. and Canada.

if you want an excuse, you will find an excuse. when you are ready to actually lose weight, you will. only point the finger at yourself - anything else is an excuse.

So the OP is making an excuse?

:yawn:

Love it!

Thanks for sharing!

Does insulin resistance cause obesity or does obesity result in insulin resistance?

Everyone has insulin resistance. It's a natural part of the human body's workings. The exact point at which it becomes a problem is open to interpretation so it's the kind of thing alarmist quacks really like to throw statistics at. I wouldn't mind betting that the criteria for having insulin resistance in any associated studies are rather low. And regardless. Scrutinizing the minutiae of your body is the primary occupation of excuse makers and people with eating disorders. As a comfort eater I am very sympathetic to those who build unhealthy habits around food. It is something i suffer from myself. But I didn't beat it by nit picking bodily details until some magical fairy of negacarbia came down from diet heaven and twinkled all my hunger away. I did it by slowly and with the support of my family and friends cultivating healthy exercise habits. And new stress outlets to avoid the need to binge on food to relieve anxiety or depression. That and a good deal of willpower. Without which no amount of help or nit picking will suffice.

Your mind is the far greatest obstacle between you and health in the face of this all this "insulin resistance" rubbish is utterly trite.

Everyone has insulin resistance. It's a natural part of the human body's workings. The exact point at which it becomes a problem is open to interpretation so it's the kind of thing alarmist quacks really like to throw statistics at. I wouldn't mind betting that the criteria for having insulin resistance in any associated studies are rather low. And regardless. Scrutinizing the minutiae of your body is the primary occupation of excuse makers and people with eating disorders. As a comfort eater I am very sympathetic to those who build unhealthy habits around food. It is something i suffer from myself. But I didn't beat it by nit picking bodily details until some magical fairy of negacarbia came down from diet heaven and twinkled all my hunger away. I did it by slowly and with the support of my family and friends cultivating healthy exercise habits. And new stress outlets to avoid the need to binge on food to relieve anxiety or depression. That and a good deal of willpower. Without which no amount of help or nit picking will suffice.

Your mind is the far greatest obstacle between you and health in the face of this all this "insulin resistance" rubbish is utterly trite.

Rubbish? :laugh: Insulin resistance is a very real thing, buddy. Thanks for stopping by!