Help me not fall into the Coke Zero trap!!
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I drink a diet soda every night. I'm not dead and still losing.0
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Tastes great!
Less filling!
Tastes great!
Less filling!0 -
Gross! Pepsi tastes like flat Coke. Team Coke Zero!!! :drinker:
see i think its the other way around lol0 -
Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
It gives you NOTHING other than bad things.
so it's up to you. is it worth it? all the negatives? for .. what? is it really that tasty ?
Perhaps you are referring to artificial sweeteners (e.g. Aspartame, sucralose, saccharin) shown to cause benign ( non cancerous ) brain tumors in mice in some studies.0 -
I understand the serious Coca Cola addiction because I too had a serious problem (oh it is so tasty!) I can't stand the taste of diet soda so I gave it up completely. Switched to penguin mints - same caffeine as a can of cola but only 5 calories (in mints the artificial sweetener doesn't have the same nasty taste it does in soda to me - not sure why). Haven't had a coke since June (and to be fair, I have allowed myself to have the option on a long car trip - helps with the car sickness for me) and yes, there are days I do miss it (oh, a nice large coke from McDonald's while doing spring cleaning was my thing) a lot. Since there are no real, scientific studies showing that they can be harmful, I say if you like the taste then go for it. I really wish I could stand it but unfortunately it is just so horrible to me - makes me so sad. I have heard some of the other diet sodas are better but honestly if it isn't a Coke then I am not interested.
Coke Classic from McDonald's is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!0 -
"When you drink Coke, you drink the blood of people."
"There are strong environmental and human rights reasons to ban the production of soft drinks in India. Each plant of Coke and Pepsi extracts 1 – 2 million litres per day. If each plant is extracting 1 – 2 million litres per day and there are 90 plants, the daily extraction is between 90 – 180 million litres. This could meet the daily requirement of drinking water of millions of people Each litre of soft drink destroys and pollutes 10 litres of water. And the toxic sludge generated has been found to have high levels of Cadmium and Lead (Pollution Control Board, Kerala, Hazard Centre).
"Long term exposure to Cadmium has the potential to cause effects like kidney dysfunction, damage to bone, liver and blood. Lead affects the central nervous system, kidney, blood and cardio-vascular system. Women in a small hamlet in Kerala succeeded in shutting down a Coca-Cola plant. “When you drink Coke, you drink the blood of people,” said Mylamma, the woman who started the movement against Coca-Cola in Plachimada. The Coca-Cola plant in Plachimada was commissioned in March 2000 to produce 1,224,000 bottles of Coca-Cola products a day and issued a conditional license to install a motor-driven water pump by the panchayat. However, the company started to illegally extract millions of liters of clean water. According to the local people, Coca-Cola was extracting 1.5 million liters per day. The water level started to fall, dropping from 150 to 500 feet below the earth’s surface. Tribals and farmers complained that water storage and supply were being adversely affected by indiscriminate installation of bore wells for tapping groundwater, resulting in serious consequences for crop cultivation. The wells were also threatening traditional drinking-water sources, ponds and water tanks, waterways and canals. When the company failed to comply with the panchayat request for details, a show-cause notice was served and the license was cancelled. Coca-Cola unsuccessfully tried to bribe the panchayat president A. Krishnan, with 300 million rupees."
source: http://zcomm.org/zcommentary/coke-pepsi-and-the-politics-of-food-safety-by-vandana2-shiva/
hth!
ps if you're really jonesing for a soda, get a plain seltzer and sweeten it with a little juice, the best and freshest you can afford.
Umm, my can of Diet Pepsi says its bottled in "Purchase, NY." Is that close to India?:huh: Hey MFP peeps from NY--how's the environment there? Good? I thought so. My (and everyone else outside of India) soft drink consumption has no "Indian blood" in it. That's just fear-mongering propaganda.
And for the "OMG! Aspartame is the evil badness" folk--there is a sticky thread at the top of this forum just for you to read through, if you'd like to know what it really is and how it metabolizes.0 -
Mmmm... sweet, sweet Diet Blood of the People! :drinker:0
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Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
No. And No.
I'll throw another No in there for good measure..... :drinker:0 -
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Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
It gives you NOTHING other than bad things.
so it's up to you. is it worth it? all the negatives? for .. what? is it really that tasty ?
Perhaps you are referring to artificial sweeteners (e.g. Aspartame, sucralose, saccharin) shown to cause benign ( non cancerous ) brain tumors in mice in some studies.
...in mice. Show me that it causes it in people or pry the diet soda out of my cold, lifeless clutches!0 -
Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
It gives you NOTHING other than bad things.
so it's up to you. is it worth it? all the negatives? for .. what? is it really that tasty ?
Uh, no... Just no.
seriously eh, where do people come up with this stuff lol.
If you dont want to drink it or consume it thats fine but why make up things or believe made up things? find one actual REAL study done showing any of the claims... not some hocus pokus uber health site preaching their own dreams but a real, scientific study
Here are some "real scientific studies" in peer reviewed journals about sodas and/or artificial sweeteners:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24700203
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691511000639
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3317920/
This is a general article from the NIH website discussing scientific studies on soda:
http://www.nih.gov/researchmatters/february2014/02032014diet.htm
As an aside, I gave up sodas (both diet and regular) at the first of the year. For me, it has been harder to give up soda than give up cigarettes. I feel much better for having done so, and I found when *I* drink soda, it makes me thirstier, and I also seem to retain fluid around my ankles when I drink it. That is just my personal experience.0 -
There is nothing wrong with drinking diet sodas. For a change up try diet iced tea.0
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"When you drink Coke, you drink the blood of people."
However, the company started to illegally extract millions of liters of clean water. According to the local people, Coca-Cola was extracting 1.5 million liters per day. The water level started to fall, dropping from 150 to 500 feet below the earth’s surface. Tribals and farmers complained that water storage and supply were being adversely affected by indiscriminate installation of bore wells for tapping groundwater, resulting in serious consequences for crop cultivation. The wells were also threatening traditional drinking-water sources, ponds and water tanks, waterways and canals. When the company failed to comply with the panchayat request for details, a show-cause notice was served and the license was cancelled. Coca-Cola unsuccessfully tried to bribe the panchayat president A. Krishnan, with 300 million rupees."
source: http://zcomm.org/zcommentary/coke-pepsi-and-the-politics-of-food-safety-by-vandana2-shiva/
hth!
ps if you're really jonesing for a soda, get a plain seltzer and sweeten it with a little juice, the best and freshest you can afford.
Umm, my can of Diet Pepsi says its bottled in "Purchase, NY." Is that close to India?:huh: Hey MFP peeps from NY--how's the environment there? Good? I thought so. My (and everyone else outside of India) soft drink consumption has no "Indian blood" in it. That's just fear-mongering propaganda.
And for the "OMG! Aspartame is the evil badness" folk--there is a sticky thread at the top of this forum just for you to read through, if you'd like to know what it really is and how it metabolizes.
just because you might not care doesn't make it not true. Look up food politics. It's so much more connected than you might imagine. The water it takes just to make the bottle is enough for a person each day. And how many bottles?
It's not fear mongering, it's an illustrative story that helps people make cognizant choices. You do what you like, it makes no difference to me.0 -
Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
It gives you NOTHING other than bad things.
so it's up to you. is it worth it? all the negatives? for .. what? is it really that tasty ?0 -
Mmmm... sweet, sweet Diet Blood of the People! :drinker:0
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Coke zero is toxic and can cause brain damage!
This is indeed true
If you have PKU disease.
However, given PKU testing is performed on all newborns in western countries and is a genetic disorder and those who have it have to follow a very strict diet from birth - nobody on MFP who is or ever was a drinker of coke is at any risk.
For everybody else,it is not toxic.
Like all foods, there may be some people with allergies or reactions to it but this does not make it toxic or dangerous for everybody else.
Just like there are people who have anaphylactic reactions to nuts or seafood or kiwi fruit - but that doesn't make them toxic or dangerous for everybody else.0 -
I'm addicted to soda as well. What it does to me if I drink it like an addict..my legs swell, it increases my acid reflux, it makes me crave sweets, and keeps me up more at night. Being tired, having feet and ankle pain from swelling and feeling sick from acid reflux keeps me from exercising enough, resting enough and makes me more likely to eat bad. What I've done is to only allow myself to have it at work. I drink it with my mid-morning snack, lunch, and sometimes evening before leaving. Breakfast, dinner and all other times in between besides work I drink water. It fixed all of the above problems..so yeah..moderation.0
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Why are you opposed to diet soda? When consumed in moderation there is ZERO research showing it will have negative impact on weight loss. It is zero calories.
Caffeine is actually a good weight loss supplement. Again moderation is key but caffeine can be quite beneficial when losing weight. It can help performance in workouts and give energy when you are feeling sluggish.
there are plenty of things that provide caffeine and also provide nutritive benefit, unlike sodas, though. I drink coffee every day! It's organic, fair trade and locally roasted. When I can find good dark chocolate, I will srsly put a hurt on it. Thankfully, I can't find it often!
very true.
But more about how coke zero deposits fat in your midsection please.
every time someone opens up a can of coke zero, every donut, candy bar, pie, container of ice cream, gummy bear, and chocolate chip cookie for a 5 mile radius perks up their ears and zones in on the drinker. between sips from the can (or cup), the aforementioned foods all take turns leaping into the drinker's mouth and diving down their throats.
there have also been scattered reports of people becoming overcome by sweets and baked goods, duct taped to their chairs, and dumped into giant vats of pudding, creme brulee custard, and pulverized flan, with the only option for survival to eat their way out.0 -
MMMMM DIET DR. PEPPER (In my best Homer Simpson Voice)..... It got me through FNP grad school I maintained a 4.0.... I think school damaged my brain more than the damn sodas!!!0
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I drink Diet Sunkist. Has caffeine and tastes great. Can't stand any diet colas. Then of course Diet Mountain Dew also. Never had a problem with it, but the I use a big mug, fill it with ice first, then diet soda.0
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Just have a regular Coke every once in a while.
Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm... Coke...
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Wow this thread created some passion lol. All of the above mentioned (good and Bad) aside It really comes down to moderation. If you already know it creates addictive behavior in you maybe it is better to stay away. If you can have it a couple times a week there is no harm in it. I think anything that creates addictive behavior could sabotage your efforts. I do not think soda is the root of all evil. No one knows you and your body like you do. What works for me might not work for you so follow your success. I drink 2 diet sodas a day, but I am okay with that. If I don't have it no big deal, so I don't sweat it. I however discovered I LOVE blueberry red bull...I love it A LOT too much lol. I had to say good bye I can't drink it. I could literally drink it until my heart exploded So...Be good to you. If you can handle a soda or two on your terms you are good to go. If you find yourself scribbling I COKE ZERO on your note pad you might want to stay away. Have a great Friday. Be well.0
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Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
It gives you NOTHING other than bad things.
so it's up to you. is it worth it? all the negatives? for .. what? is it really that tasty ?
Uh, no... Just no.
seriously eh, where do people come up with this stuff lol.
If you dont want to drink it or consume it thats fine but why make up things or believe made up things? find one actual REAL study done showing any of the claims... not some hocus pokus uber health site preaching their own dreams but a real, scientific study
Here are some "real scientific studies" in peer reviewed journals about sodas and/or artificial sweeteners:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24700203
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691511000639
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3317920/
This is a general article from the NIH website discussing scientific studies on soda:
http://www.nih.gov/researchmatters/february2014/02032014diet.htm
As an aside, I gave up sodas (both diet and regular) at the first of the year. For me, it has been harder to give up soda than give up cigarettes. I feel much better for having done so, and I found when *I* drink soda, it makes me thirstier, and I also seem to retain fluid around my ankles when I drink it. That is just my personal experience.
yes, but they all say nothing, maybe this, maybe that, they even say it doesnt prove anything and that larger control studies would be needed and are more or less guesses.
I love their conclusion from this article http://www.nih.gov/researchmatters/february2014/02032014diet.htm "Notably, obese adults who consumed diet drinks ate significantly more snacks than those who had sugared drinks. Those who drank diet beverages consumed 131 calories per day in salty snacks and 243 in sweet snacks, compared to 107 and 213, respectively, for obese adults who drank sugared drinks."
wow, go figure, overwheight people who thought they were saving a few calories ate a few more calories in snacks. a whole 50 calories extra in snacks per day... ... as opposed to how many less calories in pop?
and this "Controlled studies would be needed to confirm these results. "
gee, do ya think. seems highly scientific to me lol0 -
Tastes great!
Less filling!
Tastes great!
Less filling!
Good idea. Let's all switch to beer! Fizzy, cold, tasty. No caffeine, but you can't have everything.0 -
Not only is it a carcinogen, but it also has shown, like diet drinks, to deposit fat around the mid section.
Also, DP10 ftw.0 -
QFT.... All of this.... I drink 2 or 3 Diet Pepsi a day and it has not affected my weight loss, maintenance, overall well being one bit.... Best of Luck though......
Same here! Every day at the pizza buffet I have at least 4 diet cokes (you know, because I'm trying to watch my figure) and it hasn't slowed me down one bit!0
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