Good Carb....Bad Carb

All_New_Me
All_New_Me Posts: 13 Member
in Food and Nutrition
Is there a way to differentiate between good and bad carbs in the food diary?

I am trying this "low carb" thing on my doctors advice....and I like it so far...but I sometimes go over on carbs when eating low carb approved foods, so I am assuming they are good carbs....right?
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  • Tedebearduff
    Tedebearduff Posts: 1,155 Member
    Is there a way to differentiate between good and bad carbs in the food diary?

    I am trying this "low carb" thing on my doctors advice....and I like it so far...but I sometimes go over on carbs when eating low carb approved foods, so I am assuming they are good carbs....right?

    Depends on what it is ... if it's all fruit and veggies I wouldn't sweat it... I go over my carbs on the daily but they all come from fruit and veggies and nothing else.
  • lolabluola
    lolabluola Posts: 212 Member
    You can do it by subtracting the fiber from the carb total - so veggies and fruit and stuff will still be high in carbs but they are also high in fiber so the net carbs is much lower and you can eat more of them - verses a bag of chips or a big bagel or a bunch of cookies will be high in carbs and not in fiber... Google it though, you'll find a lot of info. Hope that makes some sense!!! :)

    edit - count your 'net carbs' - lets you have have fruits and veggies and a lot less junk food
  • All_New_Me
    All_New_Me Posts: 13 Member
    OK, that is what I was thinking, too. I have stopped bread and chips and all the stuff that tastes good, lol!! It is basically what I was living on before....

    I have had some bread stuff that is low carb, using almond flour and coconut flour...sugar subs and that kind of thing...but nothing refined. It's not so bad once you get used to it :D
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I am trying this "low carb" thing on my doctors advice....and I like it so far...but I sometimes go over on carbs when eating low carb approved foods, so I am assuming they are good carbs....right?

    I have no idea what low carb approved foods are or how you are defining "bad carb." As I understand low carb, plenty of carbs that other people would consider healthy, like fruit, and whole grain bread, potatoes and sweet potatoes, and corn on the cob, are considered foods to be avoided merely because they are high in carbs.
  • oldantired
    oldantired Posts: 24 Member
    The only low carb bread type product I have found that does not require "getting used to" is Lawash Original Recipe wraps with flaxseed. Just 80 cals and 4 net carbs per wrap. I had one this morning with scrambled eggs, baby spinach and chorizo. About 6 net carbs total.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Carbs are carbs. They are not bad or good.
    The body processes all carbs the same way.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Is there a way to differentiate between good and bad carbs in the food diary?

    I always thought the difference was fiber. More fiber = good, too little fiber = bad. But I don't know if there is a way to track fiber in the diary.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Carbs are carbs. They are not bad or good.
    The body processes all carbs the same way.

    That's not true. Fiber and resistant starches, for example, are not totally absorbed by the body.
  • lolabluola
    lolabluola Posts: 212 Member
    I always just subtract the total fiber from the total carbs
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    I always thought the difference was fiber. More fiber = good, too little fiber = bad. But I don't know if there is a way to track fiber in the diary.

    The diary tracks fiber already. Whether it is good or bad is a separate question.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I always thought the difference was fiber. More fiber = good, too little fiber = bad. But I don't know if there is a way to track fiber in the diary.

    There is. I track it instead of sugar. You can select what you track out of a long list, although some of the options (like potassium) are misleading since that information isn't included for a lot of the entries.
  • NurseWizzle
    NurseWizzle Posts: 312 Member
    Which is to say, they are all converted into glucose in the bloodstream, where they trigger an insulin response.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    What are your net carbs? Meaning, what is your total carbs MINUS the fiber? If it's at or lower than your carb goal, then you're fine.
  • Derpes
    Derpes Posts: 2,033 Member
    The carbs that are engaged in nefarious activities are the bad ones.
  • Derp_Diggler
    Derp_Diggler Posts: 1,456 Member
    The carbs that are engaged in nefarious activities are the bad ones.

    Is that what the show "Breaking Bread" is about?
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    Ooooo, I love this game! I wanna play bad Carb.
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
    More importantly, is there a way to differential good iron from bad iron? I mean, seriously, all the bad iron I'm in-taking is really sticking to my butt.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    The carbs that are engaged in nefarious activities are the bad ones.

    Is that what the show "Breaking Bread" is about?

    10/10 would bang both quotes
  • All_New_Me
    All_New_Me Posts: 13 Member
    As far as net Carbs, looks like I'm good.

    And, yes, the lady doc explained it the same way....high fiber=good....low fiber=not so good.........like cops who don't pooh regularly, I guess ;)
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    As far as net Carbs, looks like I'm good.

    And, yes, the lady doc explained it the same way....high fiber=good....low fiber=not so good.........like cops who don't pooh regularly, I guess ;)

    So you're fine. Are you supplementing the lack of carbs with fats? High fat, low carb, moderate protein is the best set-up.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Which is to say, they are all converted into glucose in the bloodstream, where they trigger an insulin response.

    Fiber and resistant starches are not all converted into glucose in the bloodstream.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
    "Take Home Messages

    * For your body composition, it doesn’t matter if a carb is classified as simple or complex or if it has a high or low glycemic or insulin load or index. Only the total amount of carbs in your diet matters and this only matters because carbs contain calories.
    * For your health, the source of carbs is only relevant if you’re unhealthy. If you’re already healthy, it generally doesn’t matter."
  • martyqueen52
    martyqueen52 Posts: 1,120 Member
    Oh look, another one of these.


    BRO-TRAIN INCOMING
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
    "Take Home Messages

    * For your body composition, it doesn’t matter if a carb is classified as simple or complex or if it has a high or low glycemic or insulin load or index. Only the total amount of carbs in your diet matters and this only matters because carbs contain calories.
    * For your health, the source of carbs is only relevant if you’re unhealthy. If you’re already healthy, it generally doesn’t matter."

    So, this site thinks fiber does't matter at all?
  • martyqueen52
    martyqueen52 Posts: 1,120 Member
    We all know you need fiber, it's a given.

    Why are you making this whole thread complicated with your bro-science, bruh? Srs.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
    "Take Home Messages

    * For your body composition, it doesn’t matter if a carb is classified as simple or complex or if it has a high or low glycemic or insulin load or index. Only the total amount of carbs in your diet matters and this only matters because carbs contain calories.
    * For your health, the source of carbs is only relevant if you’re unhealthy. If you’re already healthy, it generally doesn’t matter."

    So, this site thinks fiber does't matter at all?

    Unless you've got poop problems - no, fibre doesn't matter that much. Besides most people consume more than they actually need anyway!

    Also for health the source of the food always matters, whether you are healthy or not!
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Carbs are carbs. They are not bad or good.
    The body processes all carbs the same way.
    And yet some cause a significant rise in blood sugar, and some don't. Some are nutrient dense, some are not.
    Some have lots of good fiber, some do not.
    Call em good and bad, whatever you'd like, there's GOOD reason to eat more of some and less of some.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
    "Take Home Messages

    * For your body composition, it doesn’t matter if a carb is classified as simple or complex or if it has a high or low glycemic or insulin load or index. Only the total amount of carbs in your diet matters and this only matters because carbs contain calories.
    * For your health, the source of carbs is only relevant if you’re unhealthy. If you’re already healthy, it generally doesn’t matter."

    So, this site thinks fiber does't matter at all?

    Unless you've got poop problems - no, fibre doesn't matter that much. Besides most people consume more than they actually need anyway!

    Fiber does more than solve poop problems, but that kind of seems like your saying fiber doesn't matter unless you aren't getting enough.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    We all know you need fiber, it's a given.

    Why are you making this whole thread complicated with your bro-science, bruh? Srs.

    I don't know who you are talking to, or what bro-science or bruh means, but isn't the whole thread already about fiber? Isn't that the difference between good carbs and bad carbs?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Carbs are carbs. They are not bad or good.
    The body processes all carbs the same way.
    And yet some cause a significant rise in blood sugar, and some don't. Some are nutrient dense, some are not.
    Some have lots of good fiber, some do not.
    Call em good and bad, whatever you'd like, there's GOOD reason to eat more of some and less of some.

    I think the blood sugar thing, especially when people focus on GI, and not actual experiences, is overrated, especially for healthy people. It's rare that people eat just carbs or even mostly carbs in the context of a meal. IME, eating a bagel on it's own will lead to perceivable effects of an increase and decrease in blood sugar (at least I assume that's what causes the high and low effect), but eating a sandwich with fat and protein on a bagel would not cause that effect at all. (Personally, I still wouldn't, as neither the pleasure nor slight nutrient value of the refined flour bagel (or even a whole wheat bagel) is likely to be sufficient for me, based on my personal tastes, to outweigh other possible uses of the calories, but if someone else has different preferences, blood sugar isn't really the issue if they incorporate the food sensibly within their overall diet.)

    I also suppose that this might well be different if someone has more problems regulating blood sugar, like IR or diabetes.

    Agree, obviously, that carbs differ with respect to nutrition and fiber.

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