Why simply be normal, when you can be a freak?
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I gave up ice cream and crack. feeling better now.0
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OP, if that's what makes you happy by all means go on with your bad self. Clearly you have accomplished much and for that you have my admiration and respect. But that is not everyone's goal. Being a "freak" will not make me happy. What makes me happy is being in good enough shape to :
Be attractive to my wife
Play with my kids
Be considered healthy
Be able to enjoy physical activities
Those are the things that I value, that motivate me, keep me going to the gym. Giving up all those things you mentioned for a year would most likely make me miserable, which would actually be counter to my goals. Because ultimately my goal is to be happy, and miserable is the opposite of happy.
Good for you though. I sincerely hope you have accomplished what you had hoped to accomplish.0 -
I'm already in that 10% of successful long term maintainers. There's no need for all that overly macho swimming with sharks style motivation, nor any need to compare yourself to others or prop up your ego by believing that you're the fittest in the room or whatever........ Not everyone is motivated in the same way.... if that's what motivates you then good for you but just because many people are not motivated by the same things as you are does not mean that they'll fail.
Also, you don't have to be perfect, you just have to eat less than you burn off and stick with that long term....... making things more difficult than they need to be decreases your chances of succeeding. There is no need to give up alcohol or all your favourite foods to succeed at fat loss... you just need to learn portion control and keep them within your calories and macros.0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
First, after a broken neck and lower spine surgery I'm graced to be walking, let alone running so I could care less about running up Diamond Back. I just want to go for runs with my boyfriend.
Second, I walk into the barn where my horse is kept and many show places and I am the most fit person. Do I care? Not really. I just want to be a strong rider for my horse and myself. It is nice to be able to ride a dressage test or a jump course and not be gasping for air like everyone else and be able to ride a 25 or 50 mile endurance ride and be able to run the next day or lift the next day.
Third, I don't want to be noticed on the street or stopped in the mail to give health advice, I'm not a doctor, nutritionist or personal trainer and I don't know that person or their history so that would be quite dangerous now wouldn't it.
Yes, I've changed my lifestyle by incorporating better habits and daily activity, what many call moderation on here. And no, I'll never run out of goals because once I achieve one goal I'll come up with a new higher and harder to achieve goal. You see, one goal I'll always have is to never regain the weight that I've lost once I reach maintenance.
ETA: My boyfriend already thinks I have a fabulous body so any improvements from here on out are bonuses.0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
Check my profile pic OP, I'm in WAY better shape now then I was in that photo. And yes, part of my motivation to get in and stay in better shape is so that I can continue doing the things I love. It was no fun (and not very safe) needing help hauling my butt back in to the boat after my dive. It was no fun being the slowest person hiking up table mountain and having all the little twits still in their 20's standing around waiting on me.
BUT, I've been doing this for over a year WITHOUT resorting to extreme restrictions. I eat what I want and just try to make sure I hit my calorie and macro goals. I lift 3 - 4 days a week and throw in some running when I can. I'm in better shape now then I was as an athlete in my early 20's. I still have some fat to work off, but I can run farther, lift more, and for the first time in my life am about to do unassisted pull ups, which at 5'8" and the higher end of BMI, is no small feat for someone my size.
It's great to have goals to work towards, but I don't need or want YOUR goals, I have my own.0 -
I guess I'm the opposite of everyone else. I know it sounds vain and selfish, but part of my motivation is vanity. I keep going because I want my body to look better. Of coarse, I care about all the other things like running around with my kid, being strong and healthy for my family, like everyone else mentioned. But a lot of my motivation is just as simple as I want a nicebody. So yes, it sounds vain but I'm just being honest.
So even though I don't agree with every aspect of the post (like I mentioned earlier, I eat pasta and bread in moderation) overall,I think it's a good post. Not everyone will have the same goals or the same motivation to reach those goals, but that's absolutely okay.0 -
Also, I'm asking you to give up those things that you love the most...possibly bread or pasta and this one is going to hurt..no booze. For one year, go dry.
No. Here's why.
1. Its unnecessary. 3 or so years ago my husband and I got real about losing weight and getting in shape. I lost around 30lbs. Then I got pregnant, had a baby and lost back to my pregnancy weight. I maintained there for the last 2 years. Now I'm working on losing about 15 more pounds. I haven't given up anything. I drink, I eat cake and pizza and ice cream. I just learned to do those things in moderation and added some exercise to my life.
2. I did the freak thing in high school and college. I was a committed athlete. Pratice at 5am, weight training, conditioning, the whole thing. I loved it and when it was over, I grieved its loss. But I'm not in that place any more. There are great memories there, but to be brutally honest, I have no intention of working that hard on my physical condition ever again.
I have other priorities now, my husband and kids, friends etc. My goals now are too be healthy and enjoy my life, to do the best job I can raising my kids to be kind, generous, productive, motivated people etc.
My weight loss is important to me, but it needs to be something that won't take over my life and steal focus from my family. The way I've found to make it stick so far isn't the drastic "give up tons of stuff and work really hard" method you're challenging people to adopt. I've done much better making a series of small, manageable changes that eventually add up to big change.0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
Well first, I have no desire to do those activities because I can't swim and am afraid of heights :laugh:
I think I'm doing fine just the way I am. I'm improving my health and enjoying the foods I love (you will never take my ice cream away). It's all about making the right choices for you. If your way works for you, fine, but that's not for everyone.0 -
No way will I give up alcohol.or pasta...or bread..besides I don't need to!
Actually I'm not a yo-yoer, the only times I have been overweight is due to pregnancy....but I have lost all the weight all 3 times
The only thing I do differently now is workout so much more, I love it, it's part of my life.0 -
I agree that you shouldn't stay "normal" in things you love! We all have different priorities though. So each one of us wants to become a "freak" in different things.
I see this thread as an invitation to everyone here, to chase their goals for a year without slacking. I'm in for that!
BTW I want to become a physics' freak :bigsmile:0 -
That's some good intentions OP. But I gotta ask....what is more normal than pledging to change everything about yourself , truly committing to give up junk food, and alcohol and to exercise?
I would wager that at least 90% of those 90% you mentioned did exactly that before giving up....it's what lost them those 20 lbs. that they gained back.
I would propose a different, far more freakish challenge to everyone. Make small changes. Set attainable goals that lead to larger ones. Truly learn what moderation is, and give it a try as opposed to the extremist attitude that may not (most likely not) work. Take small bites...metaphorically speaking. Get some knowledge. Use that ****. Make it work for you. :drinker:0 -
Dang, what's with all the pompous posts on MFP today?0
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The word Freak...
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This is exactly what I am trying to do!0
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When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
I've swam with sharks and I still eat bread. I live dangerously.0 -
but I like pie & bourbon
I now know EXACTLY how our party will go down.0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
I've swam with sharks and I still eat bread. I live dangerously.
But are you a freak?0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
I've swam with sharks and I still eat bread. I live dangerously.
But are you a freak?
I am but probably not in the way the OP means.0 -
this one is going to hurt..no booze. For one year, go dry.
One year...will ya?
I'd rather die...
Seriously, it's terrific what you have achieved. I am sure it took a lot of hard work, dedication and consistency.
However, I have reached the stage in my life where "great bodywork but nothing going on under the hood" isn't what I want to achieve. My health and the way I perform rather than look is far more important. Sharing moments with my family and friends enjoying good food and wine is far more important.
All of those can be accomplished without going to the extent of dietary change which you outline.
Good luck with your goals.0 -
I'll agree with almost everything in the OP except the part about giving up bread and pasta. Short of medical problems, there is no reason for that. You don't have eat them if you don't like them…. but giving up major (and pretty basic) foods that you like is contrary to the idea of a lifestyle change that the OP is endorsing. Everything in moderation. You can still be in the best shape of your life!
Also unfortunately… you've got to keep it up longer than a year. People can do things for a year and still gain all the weight back.0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
Condescension, thy name is TiberiusClaudis.
I only need to bother about being one type of freak:
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why give up all the stuff that you love when you can get the same results without giving those things up? I don't mean just eating them in whatever size portions, but with good portion control and proper tracking of your food intake, you don't have to give up any foods (or alcohol) you just have to fit them into your calorie and macro goals.
One of the main reasons why people fail in the long term, is because they're in an "all or nothing" mentality... and I know you mean well with your post, but all of what you're saying typifies an all or nothing mentality, i.e. giving stuff up, giving yourself x number of weeks/months/etc where you have to live this perfect lifestyle........ people can't be on their best behaviour 24/7 in any context... that's why the working week is 5 days long, not 7 days long. What's most important for long term health and long term success at anything, is actually sticking with the programme long term. So just as working days include specified times for breaks, an end to the day where people don't have to work, plus weekends and holidays......... a good healthy lifestyle plan (I hate the word diet but it does include tracking food for fat loss if that's what someone needs to do) includes a plan for enjoying all the things in life you want to enjoy, i.e. going to parties where you drink alcohol and eat dessert... planning bread and other demonised foods into your calorie goal (there is absolutely no reason to give up bread whatsoever... all you need to do is track your intake of it, and all other foods, carefully so you stay within your calorie and macro goals)...... if you plan for these things then they don't derail you, and there's no guilt associated with it........ what you said about binge days, not everyone does that and most people can learn not to do that simply by planning to eat those foods in moderation and that their calorie goal is not too extreme.....
Also, there's nothing wrong with being normal. Not everyone has the ambition to have a 6-pack or win tournaments at anything... some people just want to be happy and healthy and enjoy life... and there's nothing wrong with that provided healthy is always factored in to it.
There are loads of successful people on this site who are still here because they still use the site for maintenance or for doing cutting and bulking cycles..... most of those people enjoy all the foods they want in moderation and go to parties and drink alcohol in moderation.... they don't have an "all or nothing" mentality, they have an "everything in moderation/good portion control" mentality and a "this is a lifelong journey, may as well enjoy the journey" mentality....... focusing only on the destination is missing the bigger picture... there is no final destination, because if you get there and just revert back to your old ways you'll get fat again (that's what this 90+% of people who regain the weight do)........ the journey is ongoing and does not stop when you reach an ideal weight or body fat percentage... because you have to stick with the lifestyle changes to stay there, so you do have to focus on enjoying the journey, because no-one can stick with anything that's making them miserable for the whole of the rest of their life.....
(apologies for using the word journey lol... a lot of people don't like that word and I can understand why lol.... but it is a lifelong thing no matter what word you use to describe the process)
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I'm a freak!!!!! Well I refuse to give up my carbs, I have just switched to whole wheat everything. I don't drink and have completely given up caffeine. I'm a huge fan of Zumba, and I do a lot of walking. I have been using MFP for 2 1/2 years and I really am in the best health I have ever been. I was a skinny kid, but got fat during my teenage years. I was fat when my husband met me and I was a happy fat lady too. After a while I decided it was time for a change. I had gotten up to 230 lbs wearing size 18/20 jeans, and XL/2X shirts. I also have PCOS and was unable to have children due to it. I was told to loose a minimum of 80 lbs, and eat healthy/exercise in order to have a child. Well after 10 years of marriage and 7 miscarries, and 95 lbs dropped I am currently pregnant (in my 1st trimester still) and because of my healthy lifestyle change I will be able to finally carry. So number 8 is my keeper :-) I have literally worked my *kitten* off just to be able to have a child naturally and I hope my little story can motivate some-one out there.0
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this one is going to hurt..no booze. For one year, go dry.
One year...will ya?
I'd rather die...
Seriously, it's terrific what you have achieved. I am sure it took a lot of hard work, dedication and consistency.
However, I have reached the stage in my life where "great bodywork but nothing going on under the hood" isn't what I want to achieve. My health and the way I perform rather than look is far more important. Sharing moments with my family and friends enjoying good food and wine is far more important.
All of those can be accomplished without going to the extent of dietary change which you outline.
Good luck with your goals.
I'm with you, friend.
I love being fit and active but I also enjoy spending time with my family and friends. Not being able to enjoy a meal with them for fear of the carbs lurking in the pasta or bread isn't something that I want.
So, OP, I'll be fit and have fun while I'm at it and you can live the lifestyle you want to. How does that sound?0 -
When I wrote this last night, I thought...if I reach 5 people..it was worth it...5. Well, looks like it was worth it.
For those of you who don't want to take the plunge and stay normal, fine. But how many of you I wonder have swam with sharks, went black water rafting, handgliding...ran up Diamond Head in 20 mins...why? Just because you could.
Sure, walking into a room and knowing you are the fittest person there isn't appealing? Ok
Having strangers stop you in the mall to ask health advice seems a bother. I get it.
Having your significant other bushwack you at every chance because you are now the dream person. Ya I know, that isn't appealing either.
You want to walk down the street and not be notice. Then pls go over to the how to lose weight section cuz chances are you don't have the drive to make it stick. Sure you could be in that 10% that hit a goal and maintain. But I think you may be fooling yourself.
When you get to be a freak on the other hand..you have totally changed your lifestyle..you hit a goal and actually get depressed...why...because you think someday you may actually run out of goals.
And obtw...I've been there done that. Go look at my profile...I have a pic of the before. 2.5 years ago I could have been someone reading this.
So those who signed up..let's do this. For others...good luck.
You have got to be the most condescending person I have ever met0 -
You said that people have to give up on bread and didn't specify which type. I assume it's not the whole-wheat type. Everything in excess is bad, but I think people can allow themselves to have a slice of bread, especially for breakfast which should be the biggest meal(I am speaking for myself here, my whole day is packed and I rarely eat at home) as it keeps us through out the day.
I gave up on pasta and sugar(I eat chocolate with stevia if I have a bad craving that doesn't go away) and didn't eat any kind of bread this entire summer. But I think that ever since I started eating just a piece or two of whole-wheat bread, it even helped my diet because if I don't eat well for breakfast, I have a big dinner late at night.
Well, I am considered freaky for my picky eating to be honest, especially by family, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I had no motivation to exercise whatsoever ever since I broke my hip and had to give up on Karate but with motivation I did cardio the entire summer and now I do running, yoga etc.(I can't do much since I am super busy).0 -
First, pls understand a few thing...note where I posted this..in the motivation and support area. So if I'm trying to motivate people and have them build their will power...is this not the correct venue?
The comment about pasta and bread seem to have hit a nerve. I'm not saying you have to stop eating them, I'm saying, don't over indulge. As long as it fits your macros...go for it. Personally, I go higher on my proteins than carbs, but as long as you hit your macros...that's what matters.
The booze part, I'm sticking to. Think about it, what does drinking alcohol do for many (most?) people. It mellows them. It may provide them a shot of courage. Maybe makes them more confident. Ok, what does being freak fit do. You definitely have more confidence. You actually become intimating to some people, or they may immediately think you are stuck up. Just the opposite infact. Some of the most fitest people I know are the most endearing. Why, because they are comfortable with themselves.
Also, pls note, I’m not saying you will be the strongest or the fastest or the person that can run the fartherest..although I think you have a good chance of it..instead, I’m saying that if you make this a lifestyle change, you will be running at +95% of your potential. Trust me, not too many people walking the streets are at that level.
So again, for those who practice moderation. I have no qualms with you. God loves normal people, he made so many of you.
Sorry, had to lop one counter volley. But for those who want to literally be more than they ever imagine. Jump onboard.
Let’s smash it.0 -
Yeah, still condescending.
I actually find it really amusing and even a little endearing that you find moderation to be "normal" and a point of insult. If anything, moderation is the opposite of the norm. Either overindulging or severely restricting yourself is the norm from what I can see. If eating in moderation/IIFYM makes me "normal", then by all means. Be the first person ever to call me normal.0 -
First, pls understand a few thing...note where I posted this..in the motivation and support area. So if I'm trying to motivate people and have them build their will power...is this not the correct venue?
The comment about pasta and bread seem to have hit a nerve. I'm not saying you have to stop eating them, I'm saying, don't over indulge. As long as it fits your macros...go for it. Personally, I go higher on my proteins than carbs, but as long as you hit your macros...that's what matters.
The booze part, I'm sticking to. Think about it, what does drinking alcohol do for many (most?) people. It mellows them. It may provide them a shot of courage. Maybe makes them more confident. Ok, what does being freak fit do. You definitely have more confidence. You actually become intimating to some people, or they may immediately think you are stuck up. Just the opposite infact. Some of the most fitest people I know are the most endearing. Why, because they are comfortable with themselves.
Also, pls note, I’m not saying you will be the strongest or the fastest or the person that can run the fartherest..although I think you have a good chance of it..instead, I’m saying that if you make this a lifestyle change, you will be running at +95% of your potential. Trust me, not too many people walking the streets are at that level.
So again, for those who practice moderation. I have no qualms with you. God loves normal people, he made so many of you.
Sorry, had to lop one counter volley. But for those who want to literally be more than they ever imagine. Jump onboard.
Let’s smash it.
Oh. My. God. Seriously? Someone needs to get over themselves.0 -
You seem to really care about how other people see you OP, your driving goal is the perception of strangers.
Bit sad really0
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