The 4-Hour Body / Slow-Carb Diet

I couldn't agree more mcferg!!!!! Very well put!!!

well said Stephanie and mcferg. The personal motivations and goals are similar in this forum, and we can all agree there are many roads that can be taken on a journey like this. magic pills/bullets, and other sorts of condescending remarks are for those who require another forum, likely littered with ads from pfizer and Merk's latest antidepressants. after 6 weeks, if I had lost no weight, I have discovered the meaning of whole foods versus processed. I have unlocked a new way to cook, and enjoy my food, inside my home, out on the town, and at the store. If that's a fad or the latest marketing gimmick, so be it. I'm comfortable with what I've learned, and treat it with a little more respect than that of a dexatrim tablet, or a trip to a plastic surgeon.

Good luck to my teammates who are with me on this road, and on this journey now.

I picked up some Calcium and Vit D when I got my new scripts filled today. My prenatal vitamin gives me 100% of most things, but not Vit D, so I figured it couldn't hurt to get some more in.

I'm way behind on meals and such today since I had a doctor appt this morning. I grabbed lunch right when I got home and I'll eat again in another hour or two. I've also got a killer head cold kicking today, so I think my next meal is going to involve some chicken broth to help clear my head....since I'm running on DayQuil right now.

hard boiled eggs? Not sure how long though? not much else I can think of. You know you want the tuna :P I have a stash of about 20 cans at my office hehe

tried canned salmon?

Mcferg,maybe you said but I don't understand why you can't cook a chicken or turkey or patties for the week and bring your lunch fresh or leave it in the fridge? Things that keep for a while are by their very nature sodium and/or chemical laden threes no getting around that

Anyway, here's a cool research article showing the weight loss and health benefits of a legume heavy diet http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20499072

I've just started. Read almost half of Tim's 4hour diet book.

This site tells me I can only lose 0.8 pounds per week on a 1200 calorie diet. I probably eat 3 times that now. Well almost. So that's why I am going with the 4-hour Tim.

I read a lot of these posts and it seems that there is a lot of "resistance" to duplicating his formula. It's not about "What's healthy." It's about "I'm going to try his plan."

If you want to add in dairy, or fruit or soy in the form of Edamame or peas for beans, that's up to you. I -on the other hand- am going to follow what he says. He's all for experimenting, and that's good - be openminded, be skeptical, be inventive. He's detailed how he's found that a small change can make a big difference. That's why I dont intend to change things from what he prescribes. I'm going to set up a baseline of "Following what he says" and then see if I'd like to alter it.

But you follow your way. I remember in the beginning of the est training how people needed to fight with The Rules. As far as I was concerned it was all their individual trips. His rules came down to "be there" and "don't be high." That was it.

Tim wants up to follow his rules. Each meal all three groups. Nothing else. Eat a lot. Eat 30 grams of protein in the hour after waking, better in the half-hour. One day a week, follow the cheat day schedule and plans but eat a lot if you want to. This forces the body to "reset" after getting used to handling carbs one way, back to a different way. This way the body doesnt get efficient about handling food. And red wine is ok,

I'm up for it. Wish me luck. "Proost!":

--- I have a few questions. What about mayo - that contains no sugar- is that ok? What about other veges. He specifically mentioned cauliflower is ok but doesnt include it in any of the lists. Tomato isnt in the first lists but is in later lists. Parsley? Cilantro? Onion (he finally mentioned it once. What of nutritional yeast? I like that a lot and it's half protein and full of B-vitamins. (Montignac doesnt mention it either.) Well thanks for listening.

I don't think it should be a problem. In many countries raw eggs are stored at room temperature. A hardboiled egg should not spoil from the time you take it out of your fridge when you leave in the morning and by the time you eat lunch; more so if it is next to other cold items.

Hard boiled eggs will keep at room temp for a few hours, sure - but I'm looking for stuff that will keep for days in my desk. As for those of you recommending precooking a bunch of stuff and sticking it in the fridge here, or packing my lunch - that's what I do...most of the time, but there are also days where I want/need to wake up and just come to work with out futzing with it, and it would be nice to have enough stuff here in my desk waiting when those days arise.

I can't stick a week's worth of food in the fridge here at work - it's too full. Also, I work from home about half the time, and I never know what days I'm going to be here, and I don't want to leave food here to spoil.

Again bringing my lunch really isn't and hasn't been a problem - I was just looking for some stuff to keep for backup.

devuchka, I wish I had that kind of energy right now. This cold is seriously kickin my butt in the energy level. I managed to cook up 5 chicken breasts last night so I'm set with "non-dinner" meals for awhile. But right now even getting up to grab a pre-made meal from the kitchen is taking alot of effort.

I'm well below my pre-cheat weight as of this morning. But I have a feeling it's because I didn't eat much yesterday. I'm hoping to at least get most of my calories in today, but it's not easy when eating feels like the last thing I want to do. I am doing better at remembering to take all my supplements.

So I am on day 3 of this and so far I LOVE it! I am actually not craving anything like bread or pasta or rice or anything for that matter... I've lost some weight but not going to celebrate yet as I am sure it could just be water but I actually feel thinner!

Well all I have to say is I am happy with this diet and glad to have you all for ideas/support!

I have been stuck at my weight for the past 7 days or so, and I started a strength training regiment 2 times week. In addition, if anyone is having the same issue there was a good post on the 4hbtalk.com forums, with the heading appropriately titled "stuck". http://www.4hbtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=226&sid=314829fef9eb2fce84955c31257e0344

they have some other ideas in there about not going to overboard and water consumption.

Like you folks...I'm still up 1.5 lbs from Sunday cheat day. Today will be very active, though, and probably light on the food, as I'm very busy. I guess I'd consider dumping the cheat day weight by Saturday a step in the right direction (it took me until Sunday last go 'round). I'm not really worried about it. Of course, I would very much like to see more movement on the scale, but I actually enjoy the eating plan enough that I'm willing to do it even without weight loss. That will change at some point, I'm sure, but I've had some weeks that were better than expected, so I can live with a few that are worse.

I think this Sunday my cheat day is going to be a "healthy" cheat day. I will focus on eating healthy grains and other healthy things that I can't eat during the week. This is actually what I *want* to eat. I've kind of grossed myself out the last few weeks. I'll probably indulge in a serving of ice cream in the evening, but I'm going to lay off the beer and salty snacks I've been stuffing myself the last couple of weeks.

Walker, I'd say if you prefer having a Saturday cheat day, then go ahead and make the switch. One day in the grand scheme of things shouldn't matter. I do understand not wanting to do it prior to getting the cheat day weight back off (though you still may), but the cheat day weight is primarily water, and your body will let it go at some point.

took off an additional 1.8lbs at this morning's weigh in. I'm going to assume it's the additional water, because exercise and diet remained the same. Happy Cheat day to those who do Saturday... I think I'll do the lighter cheat day, don't want to hard of a time getting back to this point.

I've been stuck at 209/208 for the last 2 weeks. So frustrated. Trying not to get discouraged, but during lunch (my one REALLY unexciting meal of the day), I wonder why I'm bothering. *sigh* I've upped my water significantly, and it seemed to work briefly, but this is basically now me stuck at about a 7-8 lb loss in 5 weeks now. I now think my 204 day was a scale error. I'm not paying attention to my scale's fat meter anymore; the thing is a menace. ("66%!" it told me one day. Uhm, NO.)

Anyway, how is everyone doing with the workout? What weight are you using for your kettleball swings? I've been using 25lbs plus the weight of the pipes (so ~28-30lbs?), and I still can't do 30 in a row. BF is using 40+ the pipes, and he can do all 50 in one go now. *grimace* But he's also 6'6" and lifts heavy things for a living.

Mcferg, I haven't been doing PAGG, but I have been doing Psyllium husk tablets and a probiotic a couple times a day, just before a meal. I understand the psyllium acts as a catalyst to coagulate with fat entering the body and moves it through. I think it helps, and I'm afraid to try PAGG, because I don't sleep well as it is, and I imagine this may make it worse. Did you buy the PAGG separately or at one of those newly created stores that have come into existence since the book's release?? I am interested to know about how you feel on it.