No eating Fruit to help lose those pounds!!!

Your nutritionist needs to go back to school. I think he should be working with dogs.

ya, not the best way to go about that, no one wants nasty comments......


not saying i disagree, but say something constructive, we are all here to help eachother, share information and be successful

I would really miss my Fuji apples......

or honey crisp apples,I would be a sad girl if I couldnt have those

Hiya people,

Here is a tip from my nutritionist:

Don't eat fruit! I thought he was just being weird and stupid, however he is making sense and I have seen the proof. I have lost a significant amount of weight on top of what I was previously, because of this. I would estimate an extra pound a week. It is hard to say for definite, but I would be confident it's a pound or damn close to it.

The logic is that fruit contains a lot of vitamins, minerals and sugar. This sugar makes the body produce insulin. However if you’re eating vegetables instead you are still getting the vitamins (things like peppers which have far more Vit-C than oranges) but without the sugars.

This has seriously helped me keep way below my carb intake for the day as well as hit all my vitamins and minerals including proteins etc etc.

Hope this helps people as much as it has me.


Michael

If you're losing and 'extra' pound per week, you're probably losing muscle!!! As was scientifically proven with the low carb atkins diet!! Which, subsequent to studie, now DOES NOT cut out fruit in the first 2 weeks as it did in the original diet.

Up to you, but most of us on here only want to lose FAT only, and want to sustain our eating habits for life. That includes eating healthy food. Fruit included!

There is absolutley no reason why people should be afraid of carbs. It's a macronutrient and we need it for energy! When we stop burning carbs we burn other parts of our body, including fat, but also including lean, healthy tissue!

As regards the 'insulin spike' without it, you would die, as the sugars would not be dispersed where it should be dispersed. That is, into our muscles, to form glycogen, to give us energy. The only time that insulin starts STORING fat, which is probably what your nutritionist meant? Is when you eat MORE sugar than you NEED. So, the fact that we all eat in deficit and exercise our )(*&^&_)*%% off, should take care of the fat storage caused by insulin.

And to conclude the studies, which are pasted all over the internet, people on a low carb diet DO NOT lose more weight than people on a balanced diet. Usually, because its unsustainable and the weight comes back as soon as you return to our lovely carbs.

I'd say your nutritionist bases his success on fast weight loss. Fast doesnt mean healthy! Read all the articles on the biggest loser .....................

Each to their own tho, I'm definitely not giving up my fruit, nor my carbs. Perhaps I just read too much?? lol

Hiya people,

Here is a tip from my nutritionist:

Don't eat fruit! I thought he was just being weird and stupid, however he is making sense and I have seen the proof. I have lost a significant amount of weight on top of what I was previously, because of this. I would estimate an extra pound a week. It is hard to say for definite, but I would be confident it's a pound or damn close to it.

I think everyone's already covered what needs to be said about fruit vs no-fruit, but one thing from the OP that is a common error - one person's experience does not constitute "PROOF". It's anecdotal evidence. Now, if you gave me a *well-constructed/designed*, reproducible, scientific study that addressed this issue, I'd read it and add it to my mental database of information to draw from... but even then it's just one study.

Just because something "works" for one person doesn't mean it would work for everyone, or that it is even really a good idea. How do you know it is the fruit that is making the difference? And unless you're cutting out 3500 calories of fruit a week, cutting out fruit is not going to increase your weight loss by a pound a week...

Weight loss is both complex and straightforward - straightforward in that it's about calories in vs calories out, but complex in that knowing exactly how many calories we eat or burn is impossible - it's all about estimates and assumptions. The human body is very complex and so many factors affect weight loss. "Proof" for ANYTHING related to fitness/weight-loss is rare, and I don't think there's a single issue that all "experts" agree on. (And some "experts" are anything but...)

The point is to limit intake of foods with a high glycemic index, which causes insulin release, which (LONG story short) will result in fat deposition.

Fruit is very nutritional, of course, but fruits are also full of sugar, which is why they're so sweet. No, it's not candy, but if you're looking at keeping your insulin levels relatively stable, and not fluctuating, limiting intake of fruits (part. those with high GI) is helpful. Berries are a great option for fruit lovers.

Fruit is a MUCH better option than most things you could eat, but not better than veggies, nutritionally speaking. If you find that you're down to your goal, but you just can't shake those last couple of lbs, or you wonder why your abs won't show, you have to look at your carb/sugar intake. Tightening up your diet just a bit (like eating an apple instead of a banana, or eating a few fruits/day instead of all day long) can help. I'm working on that now, and it's really helping.

Hiya people,

Here is a tip from my nutritionist:

Don't eat fruit! I thought he was just being weird and stupid, however he is making sense and I have seen the proof. I have lost a significant amount of weight on top of what I was previously, because of this. I would estimate an extra pound a week. It is hard to say for definite, but I would be confident it's a pound or damn close to it.

The logic is that fruit contains a lot of vitamins, minerals and sugar. This sugar makes the body produce insulin. However if you’re eating vegetables instead you are still getting the vitamins (things like peppers which have far more Vit-C than oranges) but without the sugars.

This has seriously helped me keep way below my carb intake for the day as well as hit all my vitamins and minerals including proteins etc etc.

Hope this helps people as much as it has me.


Michael

This is absolutely right. I've experienced it with both myself and my clients. Good nutritionist!!!

I will never stop eating fruit. To each his own.

I'm eating fruit and still losing weight. I think fruit in moderation is ok... where you can get into trouble is with Fruit Juices... High in sugars and corn syrup in some cases.... :-X The occasional apple or banana as a substitute for a candybar is good. :-D

Hogwash. Eat a balanced diet. 3500 calories = 1 pound no matter how you cut it. Eat 3500 calories less than you burn in a given time period and you will lose a pound.

Miracle soup Diet. Low Carb. High Fiber. No dairy. You can go on line pick out any theory and find just as many pro sites as con sites.

Your best bet is a balanced diet while practicing portion control.

Don't discount the fact that the USRDA and the Food Pyramid are much more heavily influenced by business interests than by scientists or doctors. Our US dietary recommendations are the product of what crops and foods our government chooses to subsidize, which is in turn based on what crops and foods can be successfully sold all over the world. Hence the presence of corn in everything we eat EXCEPT fruits and vegetables.

One is not necessarily better off letting a bunch of lobbyists and politicians dictate food choices.

this. the food industry makes me sick.

i agree with the OP but also, EVERYONE WORKS IN DIFFERENT WAYS. my personal trainer also told me if i wanted to reduce belly fat, i had to cut sugar out of my diet as much as possible, including refined/bad sugars (from junk food etc) and even fruit. he said it's because most often than not, excess sugar is stored as fat (i did not research or have proof for this statement). some people need their sugar fix and props to them for choosing fruit over chocolate. but i think the OP is saying that if you could or if you want to, you could try eliminating fruit from your diet to see if it helps with your weight/fat loss even more.

he didn't say fruit per se was BAD for you, just that perhaps cutting it out of your diet would help you in your weight/fat loss journey. a lot of you lost weight while eating fruit because by choosing fruit over _____ (insert junk food here) was already a healthier choice, and i am sure you were cutting calories at the same time. different nutritionists have different opinions or lean toward different research, science is always expanding and improving itself, so it is really difficult to say what is right and what is wrong.

THERE IS TOO MUCH HATE AND VINDICTIVENESS AROUND. gee, i understand that dieting might make some people a little more short tempered but come on people.

OP is trying to help. if his tip works for you, great. if his tip doesn't work for you, then it doesn't work for you and you are more suited to another type of diet for weight loss.

to the poster who said that his nutritionist should work with dogs, you are so ignorant. but probably right since working with dogs would be MUCH easier than working with people like you.

RANT OVER.

Sorry fruit is good for you and low calorie even a banana only has 100+ calories. I eat a banana and orange EVERY day and sometimes an apple in the evenings. We're supposed to be eating more raw/natural foods. Sorry i'd rather have a 90 calorie orange then some designed processed food with only 70 calories. I find it stupid that any nutritionist would stay avoid fruits or vegetables. People are fat not because of overeating fruit but because of processed and junk food among gross overeating.

Sounds right to me. Here is some additional info for those that want their fruits.

FRUITS LOW IN SUGAR:
small amounts of lemon or lime
Rhubarb
Raspberries
Cranberries

Fruits Low to Medium in Sugar

* Strawberries

* Casaba Melon

* Papaya

* Watermelon

* Peaches

* Nectarines

* Blueberries

* Cantaloupes

* Honeydew melons

* Apples

* Guavas -- Pineapple Guavas (Feijoa) and Strawberry Guavas are probably similar, but information that directly compares them is not available

Apricots

Grapefruit

Fruits Fairly High in Sugar

* Plums

* Oranges

* Kiwifruit

* Pears

* Pineapple

Fruits Very High in Sugar

* Tangerines

* Cherries

* Grapes

* Pomegranates

* Mangos

* Figs

* Bananas

* Dried Fruit, such as dates, raisins, dried apricots, and prunes

I am gonna try to cut the fruit... sont eat that much anyway, is there any veggies that I should stay away from??

I wouldn't "stay away" from any veggies, but there are some that are considered starches, that you should limit. I don't know all of them, but potatoes, and corn are starches.

The best veggies are the green ones, like spinach, and broccoli, but there are benefits to all foods. You just have to know when to eat them, and how much to eat. I've read several articles that say fruits high in glucose are ideal for post workout, due to the fact that the sugars go directly to feed the muscles. Too much though, and it will be stored as fat.

I love fruit, and I eat it every day. Moderation is key.

I have PCOS, which responds better to a low carb diet. My "low-carb" was doctor monitored, but is nothing like the "low-carb" I see people doing. I ate 2-3 servings of fruit per day and lost 68 pounds with PCOS. And more importantly, now that I have reached a healthy BMI, my PCOS is under control, my hormones have normalized, I can eat a normal 55-15-30 diet again and I'm still losing.

To each his own. I just hope that people will read information on a forum and then discuss with their own doctors and dieticians to see if they should do it. I think posts like this tend to get people to jump on board without proper planning. Just because this guy found success cutting out fruit does not mean you will. Just because someone calls themselves a nutritionist or a trainer does not mean the advise they give is gospel. I'm just saying.

i actually happen to be allergic to fruit (carry an epi-pen), so i don't have this problem. lol...

my doctor and i monitor my health closely to make sure i'm getting in all my nutrients. she confirms that honestly, you can totally live without fruits. i'm not recommending this. hell, fruits are DELICIOUS and i miss them dearly! i'm just saying you can omit it and remain healthy is all (devil's advocate). lol... im a HUGEEEEE veggie eater though, to compensate.

loving the discussions!

xoxo.