Not losing weight on low carb?
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I've never seen someone so defensive about pop tarts. She wasn't making fun of people... seems to me the OP just underestimates her own willpower and was amazed people can eat those foods in moderation. But wow... overreaction much?
It's not about Pop-Tarts. She was derisive and dismissive at the idea that someone could eat foods that her "nutritionist" has told her are bad for her without blowing up like a balloon.
She said absolutely nothing about the problem of eating those foods in moderation. You completely made that up yourself.
Reading comprehension problems much? Before you accuse other people of "overreacting" you should at least read the words that were actually written, and not pretend words were written which actually weren't.
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No I think you are overacting. I can read and that is not what OP was doing. No where did I see mocking but a misunderstanding of how low carb diets work.Jim_Barteck wrote: »Seriously? I would hardly call that bullying.
She wasn't mocking people not a low carb diets.
She mocked both the people who weren't eating low carb and non-low carb diets. See the passages I previously quoted from her if you missed reading them yourself.
Then she had the nerve to complain that people weren't being as nice to her as she would like. Laughable.
You must be seeing posts from her that I don't. I have read your quotes from her and no where do I see mocking.
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I would hardly consider your posts facts LOLJim_Barteck wrote: »
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Everyone chill. It is sometimes hard to believe someone else may get a different result from you whilst doing the same thing.
Being fat is probably one of the less dangerous parts of the 'metabolic syndrome' to have on its own. I'd take obesity any day over inflamed arteries or chronic low energy, etc..
A diet sufficiently heavy in poptarts may win a person one of those other worrying conditions even if it doesn't inflate their waistline.
Interesting post by Peter Attia on whether it is useful to see sugar as a chronic toxin: http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic0 -
I don't consider sugar toxic lolbizarrefish wrote: »Everyone chill. It is sometimes hard to believe someone else may get a different result from you whilst doing the same thing.
Being fat is probably one of the less dangerous parts of the 'metabolic syndrome' to have on its own. I'd take obesity any day over inflamed arteries or chronic low energy, etc..
A diet sufficiently heavy in poptarts may win a person one of those other worrying conditions even if it doesn't inflate their waistline.
Interesting post by Peter Attia on whether it is useful to see sugar as a chronic toxin: http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/is-sugar-toxic
I just like it so much and I want to keep eating more of it. It doesn't make me gain weight in and of itself, it just makes me more hungry. Feeling hunger and acting on it is different than eating it and not acting on it.
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I would hardly consider your posts facts LOLJim_Barteck wrote: »
Sweet molasses! He needs to go eat a poptart and take a nap.
I think many of the posters on this thread are creating the drama where there originally was none. This thread is about "I need help with my low-carb diet" not "Please dissuade me from a diet given to me by a nurse and registered dietician and suggest that I eat foods that I know cause problems for me". That isn't helpful. Low-carb diets aren't magic or the devil. They are just different.
She now knows accuracy is likely her issue, that ketosis doesn't necessarily mean weight loss, that you must have a calorie deficit, many people think she shouldn't be on a low-carb diet, nutritionists are not omnipotent beings, and some people can eat poptarts and still lose weight even though she can't.
Anything else? Helpful things, that is.
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Why is it that people ask a roomful of people (in this case the internet full) and when they don't like the answers, or agree, suddenly they're bullies?
OP You're eating more than you think. Get the scale, it will help tremendously.0 -
So bombsell, you honestly eat poptarts for breakfast and chips for lunch and you don't get fat? Really...how does one do that? Even when not dieting, I don't eat like that. Unless you work out all day?
In what world is asking "Wow, you really can do that?" mocking someone? What is it in her post that's mocking? She's not saying someone is fat. She's not saying someone will be fat. She's just a bit surprised/incredulous that someone can do that and not get fat, which is why she follows up to ask if the other person is very active. Are you sure you know what it means to mock someone?
But seriously, how dare her question the ability of other people to eat their precious pop tarts and lose weight. The audacity! The nerve! Frankly I'm shocked her posts haven't been deleted and her account permanently banned from myfitnesspal. The mods must be asleep as the wheel this afternoon.I tried Weight Watchers 3 times and lost around 20 lbs. each time, but I was hungry ALL THE TIME. I thought about food ALL the time. It was because I was eating so many wrong foods. Processed foods that were high in carbs.
The phase I am on, advised by the expert, is not a permanent phase. It's to help get me into ketosis, which I am at. Phase two will start after today.
Really, nothing about struggling to eat those foods in moderation. Hungry all the time.. cravings... which led to her eventually quitting these plans and regaining the weight... ? Yeah, I'm making this up.Ummm, yeah, that is close to what I used to eat - and now I am overweight. ha ha!
Again, nothing at all to suggest she's struggled in the past when it comes to eating these foods in moderation. Nope, nothing of the sort in this thread.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »Why is it that people ask a roomful of people (in this case the internet full) and when they don't like the answers, or agree, suddenly they're bullies?
OP You're eating more than you think. Get the scale, it will help tremendously.
She agreed weighing her food would be helpful pages ago and said she would begin weighing things. It just gets lost in all the manufactured drama and suggestions to completely alter her routine.0 -
Yep, sorry TLDR all that business in-betweenLiftng4Lis wrote: »Why is it that people ask a roomful of people (in this case the internet full) and when they don't like the answers, or agree, suddenly they're bullies?
OP You're eating more than you think. Get the scale, it will help tremendously.
She agreed weighing her food would be helpful pages ago and said she would begin weighing things. It just gets lost in all the manufactured drama and suggestions to completely alter her routine.
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Not exercising yet. I walk casually and am active b/c I have two kids. But I am not doing anything high impact. I don't weigh everything but the food I eat is high protein, low fat. I eat mostly salad, chicken, protein shakes, and eggs. Sometimes a piece of turkey bacon or sausage. If it is all water weight, then am I really losing any weight at all? I am so frustrated!
Type of food and macro ratio does not matter as far as weight loss goes. In order to lose weight, you must eat less calories than you burn. Calorie reduction causes weight loss, balance of macros is for energy, satiety, and nutrients.
In other words, choose your diet type, but you must eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
Eat less and you will lose weight.
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Add in some good carbs. Depending on how hard you work out and how many days a week your body might be struggling for the energy you are burning. I used to low carb and 1200/day. It just wasn't working for me anymore. Added in some good carbs and upped my cals based on TDEE and the scale is back to moving.0
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Jim_Barteck wrote: »Ummm, yeah, that is close to what I used to eat - and now I am overweight. ha ha!
And you wonder why people are "bullying" you? Take a look in the mirror at your attitude.
It wasn't what you were eating. It was that you wouldn't stop eating it. You ate too much of it. Period.
Now you want to make fun of other people who can make it work simply because you didn't show the self-restraint necessary to make it work for yourself?
Talk about bullying attitudes....
You are grossly wrong, once again, by what I was conveying. I fully admitted to having a diet where I ate all the wrong things and it effected my weight. The gentleman who posted that admitted that he was eating that way for a reason. I assume he works out and lifts weights, or does something where he can eat that way. I am not of the same lifestyle as him. I gain weight when I eat like that, plain and simple. I wasn't making fun of him. Kudos to him for doing something that works for HIM. Now go back to the house that fell on you, troll!-2 -
Jim_Barteck wrote: »Ummm, yeah, that is close to what I used to eat - and now I am overweight. ha ha!
And you wonder why people are "bullying" you? Take a look in the mirror at your attitude.
It wasn't what you were eating. It was that you wouldn't stop eating it. You ate too much of it. Period.
Now you want to make fun of other people who can make it work simply because you didn't show the self-restraint necessary to make it work for yourself?
Talk about bullying attitudes....
I've never seen someone so defensive about pop tarts. She wasn't making fun of people... seems to me the OP just underestimates her own willpower and was amazed people can eat those foods in moderation. But wow... overreaction much?
My goodness, thank you! It's takes a lot more humility to admit that you ate crappy and are fat from it than simply asking someone how they are able to eat that way and stay in shape. Maybe one say I will be there, but it hasn't worked for me up to now.0 -
Jim_Barteck wrote: »I've never seen someone so defensive about pop tarts. She wasn't making fun of people... seems to me the OP just underestimates her own willpower and was amazed people can eat those foods in moderation. But wow... overreaction much?
It's not about Pop-Tarts. She was derisive and dismissive at the idea that someone could eat foods that her "nutritionist" has told her are bad for her without blowing up like a balloon.
She said absolutely nothing about the problem of eating those foods in moderation. You completely made that up yourself.
Reading comprehension problems much? Before you accuse other people of "overreacting" you should at least read the words that were actually written, and not pretend words were written which actually weren't.
You are terribly wrong. Just wrong.0 -
When i first did low carb i would always loose between 5 and 10 lbs in the first two weeks and be much less bloated. After experiencing this a few times i realized this was water weight just coming off because of lack of water retaining foods. After that i would loose next to nothing.
I've since come off low carb as i decided it was not a long term lifestyle choice for me. I just do basic calorie counting now with more consistent results. the downside is i put all the water weight back on
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michaelachallis wrote: »When i first did low carb i would always loose between 5 and 10 lbs in the first two weeks and be much less bloated. After experiencing this a few times i realized this was water weight just coming off because of lack of water retaining foods. After that i would loose next to nothing.
I've since come off low carb as i decided it was not a long term lifestyle choice for me. I just do basic calorie counting now with more consistent results. the downside is i put all the water weight back on
I am beginning to wonder the same thing, but here is what I cannot deny. I feel so much better, am not sluggish, don't need those afternoon naps, my skin has cleared, and have a really clear mental ability. I do like having that feeling. Oh, and the cravings are not there. I actually went to see a movie at the theater, smelled the popcorn, and didn't buy any. I had no desire to eat it. That never happened for me before.
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Awesome, sounds like the effects you are experiencing are overwhelmingly positive. I'm slightly jealous as i didn't get half of these benefits
Just wasn't for me - simple as that!0 -
michaelachallis wrote: »Oh, and the cravings are not there. I actually went to see a movie at the theater, smelled the popcorn, and didn't buy any. I had no desire to eat it. That never happened for me before.
That is definitely one of the benefits found with a low-carb diet, congrats.0 -
So am I the only one to read through this entire post and wonder why the OP didn't call the nutritionist and ask this question?0
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OP, maybe wait a few more weeks before determining if you've stalled?0
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Just had a chat with my specialist. The word she used for this phase one is Gluconeogenesis. I can't explain any of it, LOL! But that was her reasoning for this plan.
We talked about my eating habits and we made some tweaks. The good news is that I can start to add a piece of fruit or a healthy carb to my diet now.0 -
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Just had a chat with my specialist. The word she used for this phase one is Gluconeogenesis. I can't explain any of it, LOL! But that was her reasoning for this plan.
We talked about my eating habits and we made some tweaks. The good news is that I can start to add a piece of fruit or a healthy carb to my diet now.
In a nutshell, she thinks it would be beneficial for you if your body made its fuel (glucose) from noncarbohydrate sources. There are many reasons for this type of diet to be suggested such as high blood pressure, high triglycerides, high blood sugar, and cholesterol imbalances..to name a few.
I'm glad you are experiencing some good effects of your new plan. Hopefully the helpful suggestions given aid in furthering your success.0 -
Did she tell you to eat more fat too? No more turkey burgers?
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blktngldhrt wrote: »Just had a chat with my specialist. The word she used for this phase one is Gluconeogenesis. I can't explain any of it, LOL! But that was her reasoning for this plan.
We talked about my eating habits and we made some tweaks. The good news is that I can start to add a piece of fruit or a healthy carb to my diet now.
In a nutshell, she thinks it would be beneficial for you if your body made its fuel (glucose) from noncarbohydrate sources. There are many reasons for this type of diet to be suggested such as high blood pressure, high triglycerides, high blood sugar, and cholesterol imbalances..to name a few.
I'm glad you are experiencing some good effects of your new plan. Hopefully the helpful suggestions given aid in furthering your success.
Yes, that is exactly it! I had bloodwork and had high everything (except blood pressure). She mentioned so much about my pancreas and liver and how they work in all of this. Really, I am not well versed in it so can't repeat all of it word for word.
She didn't say much about the turkey burger. I am getting a good amount of fats, but just suggested the protein and more water intake. I will agree that my water could be higher, esp. if there's a sodium issue going on.0 -
BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Kick-start your metabolism? I'd see a new nutritionist. Your metabolism should always be functioning...unless you're dead. In fact, eating in a calorie surplus for extended periods actually help metabolism, so unless you have a medical condition, you should be in a prime position FOR weight loss without doing anything special to your diet, outside of a calorie deficit.
Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.
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