Not Losing Weight

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  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    Thank you for all the great advice.

    We should start a kickstarter to lend out kitchen scales for weight loss :smile:

    Using the first bmi calculator that google finds when you search for 'bmi calculator'. It says for my stats I should be on 2024 Calories a day, so to create a deficit I should be 1500'ish for 1lb loss a week. Is this correct? And if so, then for just under 2lbs loss a week should be around 1200 (Which MFP has set 1270 for).
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    Thank you for all the great advice.

    We should start a kickstarter to lend out kitchen scales for weight loss :smile:

    Using the first bmi calculator that google finds when you search for 'bmi calculator'. It says for my stats I should be on 2024 Calories a day, so to create a deficit I should be 1500'ish for 1lb loss a week. Is this correct? And if so, then for just under 2lbs loss a week should be around 1200 (Which MFP has set 1270 for).

    I think you're looking at BMR, not TDEE. BMR is the number of calories your body uses just to keep you alive, if you were in a coma. It includes absolutely no movement. TDEE is the number of calories you burn including normal movement and exercise. That's the number you want to calculate.

  • parkscs
    parkscs Posts: 1,639 Member
    edited October 2014
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    daynerz wrote: »
    weekly reduce your calories or up your excercise ever so slightly, slow and steady wins the race

    OP is a 200 pound male eating 1270 calories a day, assuming that is an accurate number he can't really keep eating less...


    If he was truly eating 1200 calories/day for a substantial length of time, he'd be losing weight. Frankly the advice to drop net calories in the face of a plateau is accurate and really the only reasonable advice one can give. Of course, that's all moot because the OP has been "plateaued" for all of 7 days.
  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    Thanks, I had never heard of TDEE before.

    *I have a semi-desk / IT Support job.

    Your BMI is: 28.8
    Your BMR is: 7935 kJ / 1897 calories
    Your TDEE is: 9522 kJ / 2276 calories

    What deficit should I aim for?
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Most people subtract either a percentage (10-20%) or a set number (500 per day to lose a pound per week).
  • Ryandecheney314
    Ryandecheney314 Posts: 139 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    Thank you for all the great advice.

    We should start a kickstarter to lend out kitchen scales for weight loss :smile:

    Using the first bmi calculator that google finds when you search for 'bmi calculator'. It says for my stats I should be on 2024 Calories a day, so to create a deficit I should be 1500'ish for 1lb loss a week. Is this correct? And if so, then for just under 2lbs loss a week should be around 1200 (Which MFP has set 1270 for).

    Use this calculator, I find it to be the most accurate and I have pretty good success with it. http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    parkscs wrote: »
    If he was truly eating 1200 calories/day for a substantial length of time, he'd be losing weight. Frankly the advice to drop net calories in the face of a plateau is accurate and really the only reasonable advice one can give. Of course, that's all moot because the OP has been "plateaued" for all of 7 days.

    How long should you be plateaued before you should reduce calories even further? I have read so many different conflicting sides.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    edited October 2014
    Take 15-20% off the 2276. Then the closer you get to goal (about 10-15 pounds to go), drop to 10%.

    A plateau is generally 4-6 weeks minimum. If you just introduced exercise this week, then that's why you didn't lose. It's normal to retain water for a variety of reasons.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    parkscs wrote: »
    If he was truly eating 1200 calories/day for a substantial length of time, he'd be losing weight. Frankly the advice to drop net calories in the face of a plateau is accurate and really the only reasonable advice one can give. Of course, that's all moot because the OP has been "plateaued" for all of 7 days.

    How long should you be plateaued before you should reduce calories even further? I have read so many different conflicting sides.

    If the scale hasn't moved in 4 weeks, then it's time to reevaluate.
  • parkscs
    parkscs Posts: 1,639 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    parkscs wrote: »
    If he was truly eating 1200 calories/day for a substantial length of time, he'd be losing weight. Frankly the advice to drop net calories in the face of a plateau is accurate and really the only reasonable advice one can give. Of course, that's all moot because the OP has been "plateaued" for all of 7 days.

    How long should you be plateaued before you should reduce calories even further? I have read so many different conflicting sides.

    Long enough to know you are actually stalled. Even with an aggressive goal of 2 lbs/week, your body weight can fluctuate by at least that much on a weekly basis. If you lost 2 pounds of fat but are retaining 2-3 pounds of water, you've actually made progress but you just can't see it yet on the scale. However, your body cannot continue accumulating more and more water indefinitely, so at some point you will start to see results on the scale if you're truly losing fat. I would say give it 4-6 weeks before you proclaim "plateau."
  • nidhi54
    nidhi54 Posts: 5 Member
    Its only 7 days u shud wait for sometime
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.
  • AskTracyAnnK28
    AskTracyAnnK28 Posts: 2,817 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I took a peek at a couple of days of your diary, and I am going to guess you are not weighing/measuring your foods, and you are not actually eating 1200 cals. Try focusing on accurately logging, pick a reasonable calorie goal, and give it 3-4 weeks to start working. Good luck :drinker:

    I saw a few "quick adds" this week so that might have something to do with it as well.

  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I took a peek at a couple of days of your diary, and I am going to guess you are not weighing/measuring your foods, and you are not actually eating 1200 cals. Try focusing on accurately logging, pick a reasonable calorie goal, and give it 3-4 weeks to start working. Good luck :drinker:

    I saw a few "quick adds" this week so that might have something to do with it as well.

    Haha no. They were lazyness, not bad food. My complex lunches :) Rice / Veg / Chicken breast.
  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.

    You dont have to cut out bread. Just look at my diet. It would just be beneficial to your progress if you included more protein based foods. Also, adding resistance training will help you too.
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  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I took a peek at a couple of days of your diary, and I am going to guess you are not weighing/measuring your foods, and you are not actually eating 1200 cals. Try focusing on accurately logging, pick a reasonable calorie goal, and give it 3-4 weeks to start working. Good luck :drinker:

    I saw a few "quick adds" this week so that might have something to do with it as well.

    Haha no. They were lazyness, not bad food. My complex lunches :) Rice / Veg / Chicken breast.

    I would think you should not use this option to get optimal results. You could have overestimated the amount of the food item or not had the correct calorie value.

    I know and you would find very few entries like that. I could with effort go back and find the exact values of items, however it was all measured at the time to precision and I know it came to that amount of calories. But you are quite right accurate logging and accurate measuring is the only way to succeed. I would only be cheating myself.
  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
    So you swapped out a carb for a carb?

    No. I cut out bread and will only buy it for special meals now. As for my current intake of wholemeal pasta/rice my option for that now is wholemeal. I have not increased my intake of rice/paste instead of bread.
  • AskTracyAnnK28
    AskTracyAnnK28 Posts: 2,817 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I took a peek at a couple of days of your diary, and I am going to guess you are not weighing/measuring your foods, and you are not actually eating 1200 cals. Try focusing on accurately logging, pick a reasonable calorie goal, and give it 3-4 weeks to start working. Good luck :drinker:

    I saw a few "quick adds" this week so that might have something to do with it as well.

    Haha no. They were lazyness, not bad food. My complex lunches :) Rice / Veg / Chicken breast.

    I would think you should not use this option to get optimal results. You could have overestimated the amount of the food item or not had the correct calorie value.

    I know and you would find very few entries like that. I could with effort go back and find the exact values of items, however it was all measured at the time to precision and I know it came to that amount of calories. But you are quite right accurate logging and accurate measuring is the only way to succeed. I would only be cheating myself.

    There's a way through MFP that you can "create a meal" so everytime you have your standard chiken/veg/whatever, you don't have to add everything in every single time. I use the feature all the time.

  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I took a peek at a couple of days of your diary, and I am going to guess you are not weighing/measuring your foods, and you are not actually eating 1200 cals. Try focusing on accurately logging, pick a reasonable calorie goal, and give it 3-4 weeks to start working. Good luck :drinker:

    I saw a few "quick adds" this week so that might have something to do with it as well.

    Haha no. They were lazyness, not bad food. My complex lunches :) Rice / Veg / Chicken breast.

    I would think you should not use this option to get optimal results. You could have overestimated the amount of the food item or not had the correct calorie value.

    I know and you would find very few entries like that. I could with effort go back and find the exact values of items, however it was all measured at the time to precision and I know it came to that amount of calories. But you are quite right accurate logging and accurate measuring is the only way to succeed. I would only be cheating myself.

    There's a way through MFP that you can "create a meal" so everytime you have your standard chiken/veg/whatever, you don't have to add everything in every single time. I use the feature all the time.

    I use the phone app most of the day for recording, in fact I use the phone app all the time for recording. It allows me to bar-code scan things in with ease. I probably would not have been so successful without the phone app version to be honest. It is just so easy to go, I am eating that weighed at that. Scanned - enter digits, done :smile:
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  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
    So you swapped out a carb for a carb?

    No. I cut out bread and will only buy it for special meals now. As for my current intake of wholemeal pasta/rice my option for that now is wholemeal. I have not increased my intake of rice/paste instead of bread.

    What I'm saying then is you exchanged bread for wholemeal pasta/rice?

    You could argue by not having bread as an option the bulk options I have would available now would be pasta / rice. So, yes.
  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    OP, I took a peek at a couple of days of your diary, and I am going to guess you are not weighing/measuring your foods, and you are not actually eating 1200 cals. Try focusing on accurately logging, pick a reasonable calorie goal, and give it 3-4 weeks to start working. Good luck :drinker:

    I saw a few "quick adds" this week so that might have something to do with it as well.

    Haha no. They were lazyness, not bad food. My complex lunches :) Rice / Veg / Chicken breast.

    I would think you should not use this option to get optimal results. You could have overestimated the amount of the food item or not had the correct calorie value.

    I know and you would find very few entries like that. I could with effort go back and find the exact values of items, however it was all measured at the time to precision and I know it came to that amount of calories. But you are quite right accurate logging and accurate measuring is the only way to succeed. I would only be cheating myself.

    There's a way through MFP that you can "create a meal" so everytime you have your standard chiken/veg/whatever, you don't have to add everything in every single time. I use the feature all the time.

    Sorry I had missed the point of my reply, in the telephone application version 'create a meal' is not an option. I do know of the feature you mean though and when I log via the PC I do use it. Thanks :smile:
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  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
    So you swapped out a carb for a carb?

    No. I cut out bread and will only buy it for special meals now. As for my current intake of wholemeal pasta/rice my option for that now is wholemeal. I have not increased my intake of rice/paste instead of bread.

    rice is a carb...so is pasta

    True. I guess I have not succeeded on the lowering carb front then.
  • crisb2
    crisb2 Posts: 329 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
    So you swapped out a carb for a carb?

    No. I cut out bread and will only buy it for special meals now. As for my current intake of wholemeal pasta/rice my option for that now is wholemeal. I have not increased my intake of rice/paste instead of bread.

    rice is a carb...so is pasta

    True. I guess I have not succeeded on the lowering carb front then.

    Nope. Some whole wheat pastas even have more carbs than the regular, and the "more" fiber doesn't really put a dent in the net carb difference. And I also think pasta has more carbs than bread, per 100g just generally speaking. That's twice as bad considering you can eat two slices of bread, but it's unlikely you'll eat a palmful of pasta.
  • eepeter
    eepeter Posts: 24 Member
    crisb2 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
    So you swapped out a carb for a carb?

    No. I cut out bread and will only buy it for special meals now. As for my current intake of wholemeal pasta/rice my option for that now is wholemeal. I have not increased my intake of rice/paste instead of bread.

    rice is a carb...so is pasta

    True. I guess I have not succeeded on the lowering carb front then.

    Nope. Some whole wheat pastas even have more carbs than the regular, and the "more" fiber doesn't really put a dent in the net carb difference. And I also think pasta has more carbs than bread, per 100g just generally speaking. That's twice as bad considering you can eat two slices of bread, but it's unlikely you'll eat a palmful of pasta.

    What would you recommend doing, given my diary entries too?
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    eepeter wrote: »
    crisb2 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    eepeter wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    OP, looking at your diary, I would highly suggest going for a moderate deficit (around 1800 calories daily, and increase your protein. You may want to strive for 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fats.

    The hardest thing I had was to cut out bread. I just had to stop buying it, it was the only way. And likewise I switched down to wholemeal pasta/rice.
    So you swapped out a carb for a carb?

    No. I cut out bread and will only buy it for special meals now. As for my current intake of wholemeal pasta/rice my option for that now is wholemeal. I have not increased my intake of rice/paste instead of bread.

    rice is a carb...so is pasta

    True. I guess I have not succeeded on the lowering carb front then.

    Nope. Some whole wheat pastas even have more carbs than the regular, and the "more" fiber doesn't really put a dent in the net carb difference. And I also think pasta has more carbs than bread, per 100g just generally speaking. That's twice as bad considering you can eat two slices of bread, but it's unlikely you'll eat a palmful of pasta.

    What would you recommend doing, given my diary entries too?

    You don't need to worry about lowering your carbs. The calorie deficit is all that matters.