Blame it on the ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, alcohol
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It was a bad night. lol.0
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I chuckled when the first peer reviewed research stated this:
During over 5 years of follow-up (1995-2000), 1,888
hematopoietic cancers and 315 malignant gliomas were
ascertained. Higher levels of aspartame intake were not
associated with the risk of overall hematopoietic cancer
(RR for z600 mg/d, 0.98; 95% CI, 0.76-1.27), glioma (RR for
z400 mg/d, 0.73; 95% CI, 0.46-1.15; P for inverse linear
trend = 0.05), or their subtypes in men and women.
Conclusions: Our findings do not support the hypothesis
that aspartame increases hematopoietic or brain cancer
risk
I want to thank you for your peer reviewed studies proving your point. Erm, what was your point, again?0 -
0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »0somuchbetter0 wrote: »Jesyka_Gee wrote: »Here's what I do. Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but when I'm out with friends and we are grabbing drinks, either stick to light beer or if you want the hard stuff go for a Vodka Tonic or Gin & Tonic. Tonic is a form of water, which will help with hydration throughout the night and a minimal hang over. This always works for me. My go-to drink is either Grey Goose and Tonic with a few lime wedges or Kettle and Tonic the same way. Hope it works out for you!
I haven't read all the way to the end, so I'm sorry if this has been said, but NO, tonic is not water! 12oz of tonic has about 125 calories. Diet tonic has 0 calories, but it tastes like something died on your tongue.
Club soda is water, but it doesn't taste very good with vodka IMO.
Actually I think it's quite lovely with vodka.
I'm a big fan of vodka & tonic...but will try with club soda again just because you said so.
with a splash of lemon or lime. Or a flavored vodka if you prefer. I also like it with bitters.0 -
Vodka girl! If you like beer try Michelob Ultra light. Not the best tasting beer but it's macro friendly.0
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PrizePopple wrote: »arditarose wrote: »^^No, but I could. I'm just being annoying. That'd be like...a bottle of wine or so right?
Okay I did some Googling... 122 calories for a 5oz glass of Cabernet, average of 6 glasses per bottle - so 732 calories for an entire bottle.
Jack Daniels is 65 calories per 1 ounce shot.
So 1300 calories would be about a bottle of Cab. and 8 shots of Jack.
I'd be in the ER getting my stomach pumped.
A bottle is 25 ounces, so that's 5.
You can easily find a 100 calorie wine.
As for jack and other liquors, most shots/ pours are 1.5 ounces, aren't they?
six of one, really...all a matter of preference.0 -
mjrkearney wrote: »Otherwise, I'd give you the same advice my mother gave me as a teenager: chase every drink with a glass of water. Makes it easier to pace yourself.
....and almost guarantees you won't have a hangover either. Great advice!0 -
Vodka and diet coke with a slice of lime. Alternate every other drink for diet coke with lime without the vodka.0
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peachyfuzzle wrote: »If you don't want to make the commitment to better your health, then don't. But, don't dabble your toe in the water just enough to think you have reason to whine about nothing changing while still touting that you're not really changing at all.
I have been an alcoholic for much of my adult life, especially the last decade, so I know a thing or two about it, and have zero sympathy for people who not only refuse to change, but make a mockery of changing at the same time.
Based on one post you've made a startling number of blind judgements.0 -
Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.0
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Torontonius wrote: »
None of those articles proved aspartame is poison to the general populations. Some only list abstracts without conclusions. Some of the studies focus on rats in which the male rats are affected but not the females. Several of the articles indicated some people have sensitivities to aspartame as with any substance.
Here is a conclusion from one of the studies:
Gardener concludes: "Our results suggest a potential association between daily diet soft drink consumption and vascular outcomes. However, the mechanisms by which soft drinks may affect vascular events are unclear. There is a need for further research before any conclusions can be drawn regarding the potential health consequences of diet soft drink consumption."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120131092746.htm0 -
fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.0 -
ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?
Man, I gotta start screening my posts before submitting... ouch
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PrizePopple wrote: »arditarose wrote: »She said she drinks liquor every two weeks or so. That's probably less than I drink it.
But do you drink 1,300 calories of alcohol in a night a few times a month? The JD also not logged in her diary that I can see. I see is some Stella and wine scattered through there which would be totally normal consumption that pretty much everyone here is talking about. If it's not logged it then only she knows the frequency and quantity.".
Hey it IS logged in. It happened on Friday if you are that curious.
I just started logging and have not been weighing stuff. Mostly measuring (cups, ounces, tablespoons).
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Drinking was a huge part of my social life as well, so cutting out drinking has minimized my social life lol what I've decided to do was reward myself with a night out for ever 5lbs I lose. I've been sticking to it and it feels great!0
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I love wine. and whisky. and beer.....
i'm trying to only drink on the days that I run....or on the weekend....seems to help, but I've been breaking my own rule lately.
if I were you I would just do it occasionally like you seem to be doing. and stick to vodka or wine.0 -
I rarely drink now days but not due to calorie watching. Alcohol tends to impair my food choices and while drinking I will always exceed my calorie goal for the day. When I was drinking on a more regular basis I would go for vodka and sparkling water with a big squeeze of lemon.0
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Been drinking my white wine with soda water, reduces the calories and hydrates!
Also trying just to drink on weekends but not having much luck with that.0 -
I skipped right over all the replies, so don't know if someone has already mentioned kombucha, but probably not! lol! It is fizzy, very low cal, has some beneficial properties, tastes good (can be an acquired taste for some), comes in a variety of flavors and some brands have small amounts of alcohol. However, you probably will have to bring it with you when you go out! Try GTs Gingerade.....it rocks! ....and if you like it you can start fermenting your own!!0
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Vodka n diet w/e. cheap n low calorie compared to most drinks Though if you're going out prob not cheaper... that's my go to drink though. 0
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Torontonius wrote: »
The most studied food additive ever and you can cherry pick a dozen or so studies from a FUD site? Wow, you're good.0 -
ryanwood935 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?
Man, I gotta start screening my posts before submitting... ouch
We all do it but it's funnier when it's someone else.
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ryanwood935 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?
Man, I gotta start screening my posts before submitting... ouch
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I skipped right over all the replies, so don't know if someone has already mentioned kombucha, but probably not! lol! It is fizzy, very low cal, has some beneficial properties, tastes good (can be an acquired taste for some), comes in a variety of flavors and some brands have small amounts of alcohol. However, you probably will have to bring it with you when you go out! Try GTs Gingerade.....it rocks! ....and if you like it you can start fermenting your own!!
Yeah, It would not been enough of a buzz for me in my twenties. Now that I am long in the tooth and rarely drink I feel the buzz. The gingerade is my fave as well.
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One night a week I have one or two drinks for no more than 300 calories total. More than that and I couldn't really say I'm trying to lose weight - I'd only be kidding myself. I eat back my exercise calories on those drink days to stay within my limit.0
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I drink...probably more often than I should but oh well. First off, if you're going to drink make sure you drink a lot of water the day of your alcohol binging/outing. & Be sure to drink water throughout the night in between drinks, this will prevent hangovers and allow you to go to the gym the next day. I always try to go to the gym the next day and sweat out the toxins and also hit the sauna.
I love cocktails, and my go-to drink is a Kamikaze (triple sec, vodka & sweetened lime juice) depending on how much volume the drink is it can be anywhere from 100-250 calories. I also "budget" my calories for these days and try to make sure to be active during the night, i.e. walking around or dancing to compensate.
Unfortunately I've found that even if I've stayed in my calorie budget and had more than 4-5 drinks I will retain water weight for up to 2-3 weeks after a big binging night, which I don't do all that often anymore...but it happens. Alcohol is tricky with weight loss and I have decided to cut back A LOT because it's been messing with my weight loss and I realized I don't need to drink all the time in order to enjoy social situations.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?
Oh come on, any of us who went to college have experimented...0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?
Oh come on, any of us who went to college have experimented...
But, did you log it?0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »ryanwood935 wrote: »fenderman9 wrote: »Aspartame is similar to M.S.G. and is a glutamate. It builds up in the brain over time. That is why Sucralose became the new standard. Unfortunately Sucralose is made by chlorinating a sugar mollicule. That is how some pesticides are formed. The answer to that was using Stevia ( a plant extract) which seems to have no negative health concerns. However, from what I have tried it doesn't taste quite the same. I personally hate the way aspartame tastes. I have recently seen yogurt and Pepsi with Stevia in it. If you want a good dose of artificial sweeteners try Pepsi-One which at one time had Aspartame, acesulfame potassium and Sucralose in it. Artificial sweeteners are cheaper than real sugar and increase your thirst.
Or maybe it's just because aspartame tastes like liquid ballsac.
Is that assessment based on experience? An actual comparison?
Oh come on, any of us who went to college have experimented...
But, did you log it?
Well.. he could.. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/update_servings/867460160
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