GET OVER IT!
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I see. Makes sense.TheVirgoddess wrote: »
Me, quit stealing my thunder.
To whom is the "I love you so much" directed?FromGastricToFantastic wrote: »I gotta be honest, I am frustrated. I realize that everyones journey is their own....totally get it. But I am sick of seeing people whine and complain.....sick of seeing them sabotage themselves and blame circumstances, holidays and failed relationships. Someone needs to say "GET OVER IT!" Seriously, I had to tell it to myself and I still to this day say it to myself. You cannot wallow in self pity. You cannot blame gorging yourself with food that is killing you on anyone else but yourself. I did it for years. I played the victim. I blamed being busy, other people, my kids and the fact that I simply liked food "too much" to give it up. I wish someone would have kicked me in the *kitten* long ago. If this is you....GET OVER IT! Step up to the plate and choose life. There is nothing or no one that can get in your way....except you! I love you so much. You can do it!
I hope you two have many happy years together.
Such an odd post. Typical "I'm so great! Everyone should be more like me!" Then, the love. Not just love, but SO MUCH love. Then nothing. Such a letdown.
It's because it was a direct copy/paste from a post he made on his news feed. I imagine he just forgot to delete that part.
Disappointing, all the same.
I was, as they say, "in" for the So Much Love. The "I'm smart, you're stupid, you suck, stop making excuses, I'm so great, everyone should be more like me" stuff...yawn.
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OP: maybe the people you are complaining about are not quite " there yet ". Maybe they are today where you were before. Maybe just like you they need to go through a process and that needs time. I think you need to practice patience and some understanding as far as your fellow MFPers are concerned.0
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his thanksgiving dinner?
i'll take time, effort, and learning to manage my health for the rest of my life as opposed to a quick fix...at least this way i'm learning
Keep up the hard work, life will get in the way, but you (whomever the you was he was talking to) can do this! And we are here for support and advice!0 -
Did the OP have gastric bypass surgery ? .........If he did , he may want to realize that some people dont have insurance that will pay for it, or they just don't have the money
I lost, I got it, but I never critized anyone along the way.......Sheese, lets all play nice0 -
OP: maybe the people you are complaining about are not quite " there yet ". Maybe they are today where you were before. Maybe just like you they need to go through a process and that needs time. I think you need to practice patience and some understanding as far as your fellow MFPers are concerned.
That's the thing... he will never have that understanding it's a process and the patience needed cuz he never went thru that. He went directly under the knife. Now it's just that he has to eat a little. So he'll never have that sympathy. That's why he's all "I'm successful and you're not cuz you're whiny crybabies." He needs to get over it.
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OP, I posted a supportive kudos to you in your success stories thread. But in response to this particular post, I'd like to remind you that the vast majority regain their weight within 5 years of losing it.
I hope your tough love words don't come back to haunt you. And I mean that sincerely.
If you are interested in helping other morbidly obese who are just not getting over it, like Sheepotato said, maybe fill in the details of how you did it.
As inspirational as your before and afters are, some practical advice to your morbidly obese brothers and sisters would be even more inspirational.
Beautifully stated. Love the eloquence!0 -
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best backfire I've seen in a while.0
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So Much Love.
don't step there. That's love. Let me get the mop.0 -
LOL!
http://www.breaktopic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/demotivational-posters-this-will-not-end-well1.jpeg
I hear what you are saying but "get over it" does not help me. It takes forever to lose weight when y ou get over 50. You had gastric bypass, that is easier than trying to lose 20 pounds once you get as old as I am.0 -
This kind of sanctimony, acrimony and disharmony is usually found in "Motivation & Support".
Not that I'm complaining.0 -
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Lasmartchika wrote: »OP: maybe the people you are complaining about are not quite " there yet ". Maybe they are today where you were before. Maybe just like you they need to go through a process and that needs time. I think you need to practice patience and some understanding as far as your fellow MFPers are concerned.
That's the thing... he will never have that understanding it's a process and the patience needed cuz he never went thru that. He went directly under the knife. Now it's just that he has to eat a little. So he'll never have that sympathy. That's why he's all "I'm successful and you're not cuz you're whiny crybabies." He needs to get over it.
Not defending the OP whatsoever but most people who do gastric have to go through a lot before going "under the knife." They do have to try other diets first. That being said - I'm doing it the calorie counting way because I will NOT get surgery if there's any other option. I've seen the complications my parents had from their bypass surgeries. Unless I'm physically unable to lose anymore and am still at risk for health complications (right now my cholesterol is a tad high and there's family history to consider) I'm going to do it this way.0 -
Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
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Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
This is something I've been curious about. If they are physically unable to overeat because of the surgery, how do they regain? I mean obviously they start consuming more calories than they expend, but shouldn't there still be a stopgap because of the surgery? Does the "stop you're full" sensation go away?0 -
daybehavior wrote: »Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
This is something I've been curious about. If they are physically unable to overeat because of the surgery, how do they regain? I mean obviously they start consuming more calories than they expend, but shouldn't there still be a stopgap because of the surgery? Does the "stop you're full" sensation go away?
A lot of posters above touched on it - by taking a surgical short cut like this, subjects don't learn proper eating habits. So, eventually, they stretch their insides back out.
Add in a dose of self-righteous arrogance about "getting over it", and it's a disaster waiting to happen.
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daybehavior wrote: »Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
This is something I've been curious about. If they are physically unable to overeat because of the surgery, how do they regain? I mean obviously they start consuming more calories than they expend, but shouldn't there still be a stopgap because of the surgery? Does the "stop you're full" sensation go away?
They stretch their smaller stomachs to fit more, I'm sure it's incredibly painful. There is the lapband where the stomach is not cut but restricted with a band, people have had them slip off or their stomach burst.
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daybehavior wrote: »Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
This is something I've been curious about. If they are physically unable to overeat because of the surgery, how do they regain? I mean obviously they start consuming more calories than they expend, but shouldn't there still be a stopgap because of the surgery? Does the "stop you're full" sensation go away?
A lot of posters above touched on it - by taking a surgical short cut like this, subjects don't learn proper eating habits. So, eventually, they stretch their insides back out.
Add in a dose of self-righteous arrogance about "getting over it", and it's a disaster waiting to happen.
Ha! Funny because a lot of WLS proponents like point out that they still have to learn to eat correctly and the surgery is just a tool, etc. Didn't know the relapse rate was so dismal.sheepotato wrote: »daybehavior wrote: »Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
This is something I've been curious about. If they are physically unable to overeat because of the surgery, how do they regain? I mean obviously they start consuming more calories than they expend, but shouldn't there still be a stopgap because of the surgery? Does the "stop you're full" sensation go away?
They stretch their smaller stomachs to fit more, I'm sure it's incredibly painful. There is the lapband where the stomach is not cut but restricted with a band, people have had them slip off or their stomach burst.
yikes. Yeah I'd think it'd be painful too but apparently its not enough to discourage people from relapse.0 -
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did OP ever come back?????????0
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HappyCampr1 wrote: »daybehavior wrote: »Two thirds of gastrics end up regaining the bulk of the weight inside of five years.
And then what...?
This is something I've been curious about. If they are physically unable to overeat because of the surgery, how do they regain? I mean obviously they start consuming more calories than they expend, but shouldn't there still be a stopgap because of the surgery? Does the "stop you're full" sensation go away?
Not sure about people who've had bypass, but my mother had lap-band surgery. She would eat small amounts, wait ten minutes, eat a couple more mouthfuls, wait 10 minutes, eat some more, and so on. She said if she ate too quickly, it would trigger her to vomit, so she had to eat slowly. She ate all day long and ended up gaining a lot back. Not all, but still enough to be obese again.
I know a girl who gained it all back because ice cream, milkshakes and alcohol all fit through the bank just fine! (and she freely admits it!)0 -
you people are mean
I think if everyone has a piece of chocolate, everything will be fine.
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scottacular wrote: »FromGastricToFantastic wrote: »I gotta be honest, I am frustrated. I realize that everyones journey is their own....totally get it. But I am sick of seeing people whine and complain.....sick of seeing them sabotage themselves and blame circumstances, holidays and failed relationships. Someone needs to say "GET OVER IT!" Seriously, I had to tell it to myself and I still to this day say it to myself. You cannot wallow in self pity. You cannot blame gorging yourself with food that is killing you on anyone else but yourself. I did it for years. I played the victim. I blamed being busy, other people, my kids and the fact that I simply liked food "too much" to give it up. I wish someone would have kicked me in the *kitten* long ago. If this is you....GET OVER IT! Step up to the plate and choose life. There is nothing or no one that can get in your way....except you! I love you so much. You can do it!
It's frustrating to read and frustrating to hear from people you know. I'm sick of people in response to what I've achieved whine about how they wish they could do likewise. It's insulting because it's like they're suggesting I've done this through luck and good fortune and just ignore the years of hard work and discipline I've put in. I'm sure I should be more understanding of their frustration, but when they just write off your efforts like that - I struggle to want to sympathise.
You don't have to sympathize, you can write off their complaining as easily as they write off your success. It's their problem, one that they have to figure out. All you can do is tell them how you did it. It's up to them whether they listen or not.0 -
I have spent the past hour reading posts. Some I laughed out loud on, some just plain made my eyes cross and others made sense. Honestly, I have spent my life obese. There is nothing that anyone can say that would hurt me. I am proud of myself....I am proud of my decision....and I would do it over again if given the choice. You can be angry, you can be supportive.....whatever floats your boat. Your words won't hurt me nor my success.-3
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I still stand firm on GET OVER IT! And many of you....need to get over yourselves.-3
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herrspoons wrote: »Also, to clarify, the OP is both right and horribly wrong.
He's right for the people who come here whining about how they can't lose weight because their dog died/grandma spontaneously combusted/think they have some medical issue that no one outside a scientologist would think is real/etc. These people need to man or woman up, quit their moaning, and stop blaming everything but themselves.
On the other hand, he's totally wrong about the people who come here, want to make a change in their lives, but are getting frustrated because the broscience crap that is peddled by the media and, shamefully, elements of the medical industry, doesn't work for them. They're as frustrated as anyone and need advice and support.
And sometimes people just need to talk out what they're going through.
For example: "I can't eat healthy because my family/roommates/friends eat too much crap" (I've seen this one a lot) - it's easy to say make your own meals. But there's a lot of emotions involved. Eating with family is a traditional form of bonding, and it feels like you're letting your family down when you alter such a tradition. These emotions make this feel like such an insurmountable problem when they're bouncing around in your head. But then you say it out loud, put it out to the world to hear, and some things happen:
- You hear yourself. Sometimes that's all you really need.
- Others hear you and recognize the challenge. It's so liberating to be validated.
- Others share their stories of how they mastered that particular challenge. Suddenly this seemingly insurmountable problem is framed in a new light. There's a solution, you can handle it.
This is how whining on a weight loss forum can actually be helpful. If you can't sympathize, don't try. Just walk away. Somebody that can relate to the situation will share their experience and that person will be one step closer to where they need to be.0
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