What Happens in Your Body During a "Cleanse" or "Detox"
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Or organ transplants, anyone?0
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TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
If your liver and kidneys are functioning, then what's the purpose of the cleanse?
Your liver and kidneys can only do so much and may not be functioning optimally.
If your liver and kidneys aren't functioning properly you really think a detox is the solution???
I said not functioning optimally not aren't functioning properly. BIG DIFFERENCE
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I'm not advocating commercial detox products, just the verb as it relates to the body. Avoiding alcohol helps the liver detox the body of alcohol. Only eating tuna 2-3 times a week is to help the liver detox the body of mercury.
How exactly will a detox help the organs detox? I want to know exactly how, scientifically. Not what you believe. Don't tell me fiber.TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
If your liver and kidneys are functioning, then what's the purpose of the cleanse?
Your liver and kidneys can only do so much and may not be functioning optimally.
If your liver and kidneys aren't functioning properly you really think a detox is the solution???
I said not functioning optimally not aren't functioning properly. BIG DIFFERENCE
I'm not saying anyone NEEDS any specific food avoidance but the whole idea that foods have toxins and avoiding them for a time is detoxifying isn't exactly ludicrous, either.
I think cleanses and detoxes appeal to some dieters for the same reason counting every calorie you take in with a food scale does--- people like 'all or nothing' solutions. The gray area is uncomfortable.
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Detox is a bunch of money-generating BS; it's a racquet that's been going on forever but has gained lots more traction recently.
That said, it is NOT bunk that food can act as medicine. Look how much medicine is derived from food. There are also many health supplements that are derived from foods that prove beneficial to many people's diagnostics, as measured by blood work results. That doesn't mean they are miracles or will fix everything or even anything. But choosing to eat foods that are good for certain bodily functions isn't pseudo-science, either. Eating oatmeal a few times a week for breakfast always improves my cholesterol, for example.
My husband has birth defects that reduce his kidney functioning. So, we minimize protein intake (while making sure we get enough to be healthy) and eat more cruciferous vegetables and other foods that are good for kidney function than we might otherwise. Every little bit helps.
Eating a healthy diet with fruits and vegetables that are healthy and good for you and for your body<>Detox.
Juice is good and tastes good and is good for you, as long as you're mindful of the sugar and calories. It's not an elixir of any kind. It's not a miracle in a glass. It's delicious and has its place, which is no more significant than any other component and/or choice of a healthy lifestyle.0 -
neanderthin wrote: »
Food reset or whatever could show up as a benefit, but I highly doubt the detox spa's would be getting the admission fee's they need to pay for all the naturaopath and nutritional experts found on the property and of course their in house remedies would just collect dust. Eat healthy doesn't sell, magic sells, that's pretty evident and the admission prices and going into the stratosphere, and cell phones are basically not allowed.......people are sheep and like to be herded.Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Food reset. Nice phrase. I've always called my back to basics times a "recalibration".
This should be stickied.
Of course it wouldn't. It wouldn't be easy to convince folks to jump on board with "back to basics" eating. :drinker:0 -
The same way as a healthy diet because a healthy diet is really the only detox or cleanse you need. Science doesn't yet have the answer so you just have to eat the best you can.How exactly will a detox help the organs detox? I want to know exactly how, scientifically. Not what you believe. Don't tell me fiber.
What is the difference between them not functioning optimally and properly.
Your kidneys aren't functioning optimally if you have kidney stones but your doctor would still say they are working properly for the most part. I was sent home after being told I had kidney stones with just painkillers. I found online that baking soda cleared out uric acid stones and calcium oxalate stones so I tried it and it worked.0 -
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People trying to cleanse their body of carbs? Where has that been stated in this whole conversation? You're not making much sense.You realize you are trying to connect things like kidney stones to people trying to cleanse their bodies of things like carbs. I think you're reaching hard.
I wasn't stating that kidney stones have anything to do with cleansing only that it affects function of the kidneys.
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Detox literally mean to remove a toxin from the body. What toxins do you think your version of "detox" gets rid of?
Alcohol CAN be a toxin, however for someone who does not drink excessively, your body can process it. The reason alcoholics go to "detox" is because their bodies become addicted to the alcohol and when they stop they can have serious health effects. That is why you hear of "withdrawal seizures".
If your organs are working the way they should, and you have not ingested a toxin, there is no need to "cleanse" or "detox". If you have ingested a toxin, home detox won't help. You need to be in the hospital where they can filter the toxin out of your blood if needed.0 -
You didn't post any links to other threads or sites. What am I supposed to read your mind?If maybe you read around a little more you will see the threads I'm referring to.
I'm pretty much just going to dismiss you. This debate is boring and from the posts you've made in other threads I can see it won't get any better.
I know what you mean though. I'm just wasting my time talking to you.
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TheDevastator wrote: »
You didn't post any links to other threads or sites. What am I supposed to read your mind?If maybe you read around a little more you will see the threads I'm referring to.
I'm pretty much just going to dismiss you. This debate is boring and from the posts you've made in other threads I can see it won't get any better.
I know what you mean though. I'm just wasting my time talking to you.
LOL NOW you got it!-1 -
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TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
If your liver and kidneys are functioning, then what's the purpose of the cleanse?
Your liver and kidneys can only do so much and may not be functioning optimally.
If your liver and kidneys aren't functioning properly you really think a detox is the solution???
I said not functioning optimally not aren't functioning properly. BIG DIFFERENCE
i get you. to me a detox is basically eating right, but focusing more. instead of just "eat less sugar" it's actually "consciously control your blood sugar" (i'm prediabetic). it's "drink lots of water and eat vegetables that have a natural diuretic quality" to flush the kidneys of anything that may be present that shouldn't be (assisting with kidney stones might be one such thing). for most people there may be nothing at all wrong and the detox diet might just be a kick start to a longer term habit of healthy eating. for others, there may be minor issues that are improved by providing the nutrients necessary for the body's own processes to take place.0 -
the fat goes away, the fat goes away, hi ho the dairy-O... the fat goes away.
You pee it out.
Exactly. This has been covered before.
"well you can stay at maintainance at burn 500 cals a day n you will lose a pound every week. 2nd ques when you are burning fat look for when thing when you go to toilet to pee you will notice something white in your pee is like chicken fat thats how some of your fat comes out n some as a sweat. because when i did a diet few years back when the white thing came in pee i got scared that its something serious but found out its nothing just fat so a doctor knows..."
September 19, 2012 4:45PM0 -
TheDevastator wrote:A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
Cyanide does not cause anaphylaxis / anaphylactic shock. In small doses, like from food, it helps the body make one of the B vitamins which supports nerves & red blood cells. In large doses it impairs the body's ability to use oxygen & kills cells.neanderthin wrote:There's cyanide in broccoli and nuts can send people into anaphylaxis (sic) shock.
https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/emergency/chemical_terrorism/cyanide_general.htm
Anaphylaxis is usually caused by a protein (such as bee venom, shellfish, eggs, nuts, latex) the body can't handle. It causes lower blood pressure, often hives or swelling around the mouth, throat, airway, trouble breathing or talking.
Some people are very allergic to certain medicines, so those can cause a severe allergic reaction too.
http://www.webmd.com/allergies/understanding-anaphylaxis-basics
The liver is going to remove those poisons no matter what, unless it's not functioning.Avoiding alcohol helps the liver detox the body of alcohol.
Only eating tuna 2-3 times a week is to help the liver detox the body of mercury.
Not eating more of whatever simply allows it to completely process whatever is in the body, instead of continuing to work on it.
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actually... it goes to my scale at Publix.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/743556/where-does-the-fat-actually-go/p20 -
in_the_stars wrote: »the fat goes away, the fat goes away, hi ho the dairy-O... the fat goes away.You pee it out.
Exactly. This has been covered before.
"well you can stay at maintainance at burn 500 cals a day n you will lose a pound every week. 2nd ques when you are burning fat look for when thing when you go to toilet to pee you will notice something white in your pee is like chicken fat thats how some of your fat comes out n some as a sweat. because when i did a diet few years back when the white thing came in pee i got scared that its something serious but found out its nothing just fat so a doctor knows..."
September 19, 2012 4:45PM
WHAT!?!
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How exactly will a detox help the organs detox? I want to know exactly how, scientifically. Not what you believe. Don't tell me fiber.TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
If your liver and kidneys are functioning, then what's the purpose of the cleanse?
Your liver and kidneys can only do so much and may not be functioning optimally.
If your liver and kidneys aren't functioning properly you really think a detox is the solution???
I said not functioning optimally not aren't functioning properly. BIG DIFFERENCE
What is the difference between them not functioning optimally and properly.
i would also like to know what toxins this detox will get rid of that your body does not get rid of naturally..
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detoxing and cleansing are a bunch of nonsense. it doesn't do anything and can harm especially if you do some colon cleanses. do your research first people before attempting such ignorant things.0
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TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
Why don't you just call it eating your fruits and vegetables like you're supposed to?
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this thread composed of so many ignorant ideas. please read medical books, learn the proper physiology of the human body and stop copying and pasting things you heard or read somewhere that sound smart but are actually extremely stupid with no scientific background to support it.
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this thread composed of so many ignorant ideas. please read medical books, learn the proper physiology of the human body and stop copying and pasting things you heard or read somewhere that sound smart but are actually extremely stupid with no scientific background to support it.
- med student.
been there, done that...
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cwolfman13 wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
Why don't you just call it eating your fruits and vegetables like you're supposed to?
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How exactly will a detox help the organs detox? I want to know exactly how, scientifically. Not what you believe. Don't tell me fiber.TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »A proper cleanse or detox consists of lots of leafy greens, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds and other foods that support the liver and kidneys.
If your liver and kidneys are functioning, then what's the purpose of the cleanse?
Your liver and kidneys can only do so much and may not be functioning optimally.
If your liver and kidneys aren't functioning properly you really think a detox is the solution???
I said not functioning optimally not aren't functioning properly. BIG DIFFERENCE
What is the difference between them not functioning optimally and properly.
i would also like to know what toxins this detox will get rid of that your body does not get rid of naturally..
just one….
Naturally occurring food toxins:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3153292/
From the abstract, "Although the risk for toxicity due to consumption of food toxins is fairly low, there is always the possibility of toxicity due to contamination, overconsumption, allergy or an unpredictable idiosyncratic response."
The risk of food toxicity is low but not zero.
If someone chooses to eat foods with fewer toxins for their liver/kidney health, so what? No one's saying everyone has to do commercial cleanses for health, or anyone does, or even that they themselves do.0 -
TheDevastator wrote: »
The same way as a healthy diet because a healthy diet is really the only detox or cleanse you need. Science doesn't yet have the answer so you just have to eat the best you can.How exactly will a detox help the organs detox? I want to know exactly how, scientifically. Not what you believe. Don't tell me fiber.
What is the difference between them not functioning optimally and properly.
Your kidneys aren't functioning optimally if you have kidney stones but your doctor would still say they are working properly for the most part. I was sent home after being told I had kidney stones with just painkillers. I found online that baking soda cleared out uric acid stones and calcium oxalate stones so I tried it and it worked.
Please elaborate on this. How does the baking soda (a base) get past the stomach (strong acid) to affect the kidney and act on the deposit?
The sodium bicarbonate will neutralize the stomach acid slightly, which will then turn on the proton pump to bring the stomach acid back up. How does this affect an existing stone?0 -
Cyanide does not cause anaphylaxis / anaphylactic shock.neanderthin wrote:There's cyanide in broccoli and nuts can send people into anaphylaxis (sic) shock.
This is why punctuation, grammar, and reading comprehension matter. MKEgal is arguing over something that neanderthin didn't say.
If the appropriate comma were in neanderthin's sentence, MKEgal perhaps would have understood that it was two independent clauses (two different ideas): There's cyanide in broccoli, and nuts can send people into anaphylaxis (sic) shock.
However, even without the missing comma, MKEgal's interpretation would require a "that" (or "which") -- as it stands, the sentence cannot be interpreted as MKEgal does without assuming a grammatical error by neanderthin (There's cyanide in broccoli and nuts [which] can send people into anaphylaxis.)
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