What's your biggest weight loss / fitness pet peeve?
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People saying "muscle weighs more than fat" grrrr...
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when people say your too heavey and you need to lose weight and then when you lose it they say you need to gain it. Just leave me alone.0
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BUT someone does it at least once on every thread <g>
Oh so true. I just want to say, "good for you...now would you kindly shut the hell up?"
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this is what I was talking about. I was saying how, when Im alone at the beach, Im not judging anyone because all I can see is how awful I look and I don't think ANYONE looks worse - and I was told that those thoughts in my head are inconsiderate to the people around me, because how I look at myself, even when not comparing to them, is inconsiderate and means I dont give a crap about other people.
The thread is too long to go back to it now, but my memory is that the genesis of this discussion is about someone going on to her fatter friend or daughter or sister (although I'd amend it to anyone else) about how monstrously fat she is and how anyone looking at her would want to vomit and how gross fat is, etc., and the fat friend/sister/daughter feeling bad and judged and then various people (including you?) jumping in and saying it's not about you, how dare you not sympathize with the thinner person feeling bad.
IMO, the speaker in that scenario (the thinner complainer) was being rude, and it's not less rude if you are insecure. It's not about the other being fatter (as you seemed to assume, although that does make it even more obviously thoughtless), because it's not less rude if your friend is average weight or thinner than you either, maybe she's also insecure and just less prone to talk about her feelings in that way (lots of people are insecure, after all). To say that your feeling bad about yourself gives you a free pass to ignore her feelings would be wrong and inconsiderate.
Obviously, however, thinking stuff to yourself isn't the issue, and I don't think anyone suggested that. Human beings think all kinds of stuff.
But, in fact, I do think that people inclined to be quite judgmental with themselves about their bodies also tend to be focused on the bodies of others as something to be critical of. If you don't feel compelled to say that, I don't think it's rude (nor do I care), and I'm sure there are exceptions, but I have noticed it to be true. (Similarly, people who think it's important to dress well often are more apt to notice or be bothered by people who are slobs in their fashion choices, people who keep their houses really clean, are more likely to judge other's housekeeping, etc.) If you don't think it's terrible to have an imperfect body, that's something to take to heart with respect to yourself, though.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »
The thread is too long to go back to it now, but my memory is that the genesis of this discussion is about someone going on to her fatter friend or daughter or sister (although I'd amend it to anyone else) about how monstrously fat she is and how anyone looking at her would want to vomit and how gross fat is, etc., and the fat friend/sister/daughter feeling bad and judged and then various people (including you?) jumping in and saying it's not about you, how dare you not sympathize with the thinner person feeling bad.
IMO, the speaker in that scenario (the thinner complainer) was being rude, and it's not about the other being fatter (although that does make it more obviously thoughtless), and it's not less rude if you are insecure. Among other reasons, it's not less rude if your friend is average weight or thinner than you either, maybe she's also insecure and just less prone to talk about (lots of people are insecure, after all). To say that your feeling bad about yourself gives you a free pass to ignore her feelings would be wrong and inconsiderate.
Obviously, however, thinking stuff to yourself isn't the issue, and I don't think anyone raised that.
But, in fact, I do think that people inclined to be quite judgmental with themselves about their bodies also tend to be focused on the bodies of others as something to be critical of. If you don't feel compelled to say that, I don't think it's rude (nor do I care), and I'm sure there are exceptions, but I have noticed it to be true. (Similarly, people who think it's important to dress well often are more apt to notice or be bothered by people who are slobs in their fashion choices, people who keep their houses really clean, are more likely to judge other's housekeeping, etc.) If you don't think it's terrible to have an imperfect body, that's something to take to heart with respect to yourself, though.
this is yes what i meant. i like to think of it this way.
if i wouldnt say something about a random strangers looks... like if a larger person walked past me and a friend... i wouldnt turn to my friend and say what a fat cow. because it would be rude. and i dont talk about people like that. and if my friend has extra weight even worse because of course she/he will think i think the same about them.
so why would i say it to my friend about myelf. "i am a fat cow" it is equally rude.
and really it does nobody any good anyway. if you want to talk to me about your weight or mine i am happy to talk about it in a constructive way without any fat shaming of either yourself or someone else... its not about not talking about problems. its about talking about problems without shaming people.
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I can totally relate to the peeve about helpful people offering apples (or other "healthy" snacks).
I once had an acquaintance out on a camp-out together offer me a huge bag of sugar-free candies to keep me company, thinking she was being so helpful. I checked the label, second ingredient glucose. I turned it down. She was deeply offended.
Stop getting offended at my food rejections, people! It's my body!0 -
My pet peeve is my mother's view on "dieting"...to her, she will eat less than 500 calories and 400 of that is coffee creamer and thinks it is healthy. On top of THAT she will walk 5-10 miles every day. Yeah that is great exercise but if you don't have any fuel in the tank, you will crash and burn eventually.
And I hate when people talk crap about MyFitnessPal, how being online does not help you lose weight. Ummm no not if you play in the forums all day but it sure helps logging calories, logging exercises and having a support system.0 -
ElizabethObviously wrote: »My pet peeve is my mother's view on "dieting"...to her, she will eat less than 500 calories and 400 of that is coffee creamer and thinks it is healthy. On top of THAT she will walk 5-10 miles every day. Yeah that is great exercise but if you don't have any fuel in the tank, you will crash and burn eventually.
And I hate when people talk crap about MyFitnessPal, how being online does not help you lose weight. Ummm no not if you play in the forums all day but it sure helps logging calories, logging exercises and having a support system.
even playing in the forums all day doesnt hurt your weight loss... in fact it can keep you motivated. i have a lifestyle where i sit on the computer a LOT. but then i get up and take 10,000 or so steps a day or go to the gym and run 5k or lift weights... i can sit a lot and still burn a lot of calories.... and not eat too many. people who say being online does not help are those same people who think dieting is 500 calories of coffee creamer...
personally i like sitting around on the computer and probably will always... so that is the life i choose and get to be fit too... when i get up. in fact being online is probably a big draw for me staying ON my plan.
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This may have already been said (not going back through 18 pages of replies) but my biggest pet peeve is that food has calories. And that I can eat 600 of them and feel like I didn't eat anything.0
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Oh so true. I just want to say, "good for you...now would you kindly shut the hell up?"
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CICO - just do it! I actually really hate it when people say this in response to a question like that. I know that it's a fundametal principle but in reality there are a million different ways to create a deficit and a million different tips for doing it in a sustainable healthy way. If it was as easy as just doing it everyone would be slim. Hormones, emotions, cravings etc. all play a part.0 -
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"I barely eat at all and I'm extremely over weight."
Sorry buddy, but that's not the way things work 99% of the time. You ARE eating more than you think. If you weren't, you wouldn't be fat.
"I thought you were on a diet, so why are you eating _____?"
Because I can eat whatever I want in moderation... IIFYM my dear
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Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.LadyAbsynthe wrote: »
Wait, why does this bother you? I mean, it's true.
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CharlieBeansmom wrote: »Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.
I can't believe people are so dense as to not get that.
"I mean, it's true."
That's so wrong it's offensive.
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LadyAbsynthe wrote: »
Wait, why does this bother you? I mean, it's true.
Can't tell if serious....0 -
CharlieBeansmom wrote: »Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.
When people say this, they really mean "By volume, muscle weighs more than fat". Meaning that 1 cm^3 of muscle weighs more than 1 cm^3 of fat. Which IS true. People just drop off those first two words.0 -
When people don't bat an eyelid if I pick up 2lts of coke or a slab of choc but if I pick up vegetable juice or rye crackers they feel obliged to tell me why they aren't healthy and I should just get more exercise. F**k the f**k off! my bmi doesnt give you the right to critique my trolley.0
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I'm never sure if the people who argue "a pound is a pound" are serious.
Can't tell if serious....
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what I really hate is how its okay to say rude things about how I live my life and watch what I eat so people think its okay to try to shove cookies and brownies in my face and its just not in my calories that day. and then when I do have a day where I fit it in my calories they're like oooooooooh you're actually gonna eat? ... like seriously I eat 1600 calories a day, I just pick and choose when I can sneak dessert in. they wouldn't say this to me if I was overweight..... ok rant over 0
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and the omission makes them look stupid.SingRunTing wrote: »
When people say this, they really mean "By volume, muscle weighs more than fat". Meaning that 1 cm^3 of muscle weighs more than 1 cm^3 of fat. Which IS true. People just drop off those first two words.
Like people who believe the earth is flat.
Or that climate change is fake because we got snow in winter.
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People who have no idea what they but in to their body. I know not everyone needs to diet, and I know that some people just are slim naturally, but still. My boyfriend was telling me about this fruit or nut bar he ate, and he was like "I saw that the thing had three hundred calories!!" I asked him how big it was and I'm just like "well yeah obviously.. Dried fruit and nuts are healthy but very calorie dense. How much do you think a pizza has??" To where he couldn't answer, haha. He eats very unhealthily.
OOOOH and this: when people don't understand that you're trying to eat healthier.
"It's just one piece of cake, it won't make you fat!" I know it won't, it's not about that. It's about me making wiser decisions for my body. Just accept it please.0 -
and the omission makes them look stupid.
Like people who believe the earth is flat.
Or that climate change is fake because we got snow in winter.
I disagree, I think the wording "by volume" is always implied, and those who like to nitpick at it are listening to their inner pedant
Just out of interest my inner pedant is huge, so large in fact that I sometimes wear this t-shirt shotdeadinthehead.com/clean-grammar-t-shirt.html at the gym ...but I do my utmost to stifle him, and it is a him, as letting him out makes me look like an ar$e and not an intelligent human being.
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I can't disrespect someone enough to assume that they are implying something they aren't explicitly stating. In general. Some people I know are intelligent, I'll grant that for them, but there are few posters like that here.
I mean hell, we have people claiming that kcal doesn't raise a l of water by 1 degree C at 0m, because of what the source of it was.0 -
CharlieBeansmom wrote: »Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.
By this definition, everything in the known universe weighs the same.0 -
By this definition, everything in the known universe weighs the same.
do tell, a mg of C weighs different from a mg of Ti?0 -
do tell, a mg of C weighs different from a mg of Ti?
No, but that wasn't his definition. His definition was "a pound is a pound". By that measure, lead would weigh the same as feathers so long as you had a pound of each.0 -
"By this definition, everything in the known universe weighs the same. "
No. a kilo of everything weighs the same.
and i would doubt if "by volume" is at all implied. remember for US Americans, the political system is basically structured around those who think creationism is real0 -
Wronkletoad wrote: »"By this definition, everything in the known universe weighs the same. "
No. a kilo of everything weighs the same.
and i would doubt if "by volume" is at all implied. remember for US Americans, the political system is basically structured around those who think creationism is real
47% of the country believes in creationism. How scary is that much rampant stupid running wild?-1 -
So you're saying that a pound of lead weighs differently from a pound of feathers?
No, but that wasn't his definition. His definition was "a pound is a pound". By that measure, lead would weigh the same as feathers so long as you had a pound of each.
So a pound of lead weighs 16 oz, or roughly 448 grams.
How much does a pound of feathers weigh?
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Exactly a pound.
However, most human beings would say feathers are lighter than lead; which is a perfectly valid statement. Which is my point.
If you want to argue pedantically, take it some where else. I'm not interested.0
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