detox/juice/short term intense diet
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Don't engage the Topaz. Known troll account.jasonmh630 wrote: »TopazCutie wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »TopazCutie wrote: »I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.
I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.
He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.
No... duh?
I could tell by his over ten thousand posts. But thanks for coming out.
No reason to be all douchey. Was just pointing that out. If you want to play with sarcasm, I can play this game too. Sarcasm is a second language.
ohhhhhhhhhhhh is that why it's in a cage?
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forsooth, for great truth.
Don't engage the Topaz. Known troll account.jasonmh630 wrote: »TopazCutie wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »TopazCutie wrote: »I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.
I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.
He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.
No... duh?
I could tell by his over ten thousand posts. But thanks for coming out.
No reason to be all douchey. Was just pointing that out. If you want to play with sarcasm, I can play this game too. Sarcasm is a second language.
ohhhhhhhhhhhh is that why it's in a cage?
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OP here is what I don't understand. You sound like you are already committed to making this work, sounds like you know that the fad diets and the aggressive approach won't lead to long term lasting results, sounds like you've had success in the past with something similar to an 80/20 approach, sounds like you aren't interested in giving up things like chocolate, etc forever. So why the insistence that you need something "drastic" and "intense". Just start doing what you've done in the past?
The reason people jumped on this topic is that MANY people, especially new posters at this time of the year, don't have experience with being successful using CICO, moderation and exercise. They feel they have to go big or go home, and more often than not, they go home, frustrated and disappointed in themselves because the method they chose is not sustainable for the long term. It was something uber restrictive, or required too large of a commitment for a beginner to keep up the efforts after the initial excitement wore off.
You already know it isn't sustainable, so why not just start doing what is sustainable? Set reasonable goals, track your calories, eat foods that provide you macro and micronutrients, throw in some chocolate or other treats for enjoyment, exercise, and get results? That program may not have any fancy name (other than CICO or IIFYM or MFP 101) but it is exactly what you are asking for - something that will get you on track and help you see the results you are looking for.0 -
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the system works! Dont skip out on the tried and true version of things in favor of something as faddish as this! You are worth the effort of doing it the hard way!-1
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OP here is what I don't understand. You sound like you are already committed to making this work, sounds like you know that the fad diets and the aggressive approach won't lead to long term lasting results, sounds like you've had success in the past with something similar to an 80/20 approach, sounds like you aren't interested in giving up things like chocolate, etc forever. So why the insistence that you need something "drastic" and "intense". Just start doing what you've done in the past?
The reason people jumped on this topic is that MANY people, especially new posters at this time of the year, don't have experience with being successful using CICO, moderation and exercise. They feel they have to go big or go home, and more often than not, they go home, frustrated and disappointed in themselves because the method they chose is not sustainable for the long term. It was something uber restrictive, or required too large of a commitment for a beginner to keep up the efforts after the initial excitement wore off.
You already know it isn't sustainable, so why not just start doing what is sustainable? Set reasonable goals, track your calories, eat foods that provide you macro and micronutrients, throw in some chocolate or other treats for enjoyment, exercise, and get results? That program may not have any fancy name (other than CICO or IIFYM or MFP 101) but it is exactly what you are asking for - something that will get you on track and help you see the results you are looking for.
^^ well put and totally agree
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hi have you tried looking into the 5:2 diet.you fast for two days a week keeping calories at 500 and the other 5 days you eat whatever you want within your calories of 12-1600 depending on lifestyle exercise etc. The 2 fast days "detox" and repair the body and u lose weight each week. have a read up on Google:)-1
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Cuz that topaz chick hates everyone. Don't worry bout it. :flowerforyou:-2 -
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Cuz that topaz chick hates everyone. Don't worry bout it. :flowerforyou:
She definitely ups the drama in any thread.
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No, just no. Do not do some drastic "diet." They don't work long term. Eat sensible and get up and move.0
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It looks like topaz has been banned? Hopefully not for liking IF and cleanses and being willing to say so, but I didn't follow so I don't know.0
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WalkingAlong wrote: »It looks like topaz has been banned? Hopefully not for liking IF and cleanses and being willing to say so, but I didn't follow so I don't know.
No, that's not why.
Any insight? I'm sure they'll just be back under a new account...they always are.0 -
hi have you tried looking into the 5:2 diet.you fast for two days a week keeping calories at 500 and the other 5 days you eat whatever you want within your calories of 12-1600 depending on lifestyle exercise etc. The 2 fast days "detox" and repair the body and u lose weight each week. have a read up on Google:)
You lose weight by eating fewer calories than you burn—period. There are 1,001 ways to accomplish that—one of which is intermittent fasting (including the 5:2 diet). Intermittent fasting helps you lose weight because of calorie restriction, not because of some magical "detox." You can spread your calories across the week any way you like—including intermittent fasting or using the MFP default settings—and lose weight, as long as you eat fewer calories than you burn.0 -
You should have tried Verjus by Jacques.0
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WalkingAlong wrote: »It looks like topaz has been banned? Hopefully not for liking IF and cleanses and being willing to say so, but I didn't follow so I don't know.
No, that's not why.
Any insight? I'm sure they'll just be back under a new account...they always are.
Because she can't have a decent debate, she often resorts to personal attacks.0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »It looks like topaz has been banned? Hopefully not for liking IF and cleanses and being willing to say so, but I didn't follow so I don't know.
No, that's not why.
Any insight? I'm sure they'll just be back under a new account...they always are.
is that allowed? i thought that they ban those on sight.0 -
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Check out Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead (can be watched on Netflix) It documents Joe's juice diet. It seemed to work for him. He recently did a follow up documentary called Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead 2 which discusses other peoples success stories and how to maintain the weight loss. It's more than a weight loss tool. You could incorporate juicing with a balanced healthy diet to get the full benefits of the juice. It can cure health problems0
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actually what kick-started me was to have a full day of eating anything and everything in sight. i went to IHOP and had a huge meal full of pancakes (blueberry!) and bacon, sausage, you name it. i also had donuts for a snack, and then had a cheeseburger for lunch. i followed with eating at a mexican restaurant (my fav) and ate until i almost popped. i followed with tons of soda (i love coke!) and candy. i even ate little debbies for a snack that night, with chocolate covered donuts and a huge glass of milk. i woke up the next day determined and ready to go full-force into a healthy eating "diet plan" to lose weight. now anytime i am craving something, i think back on that day and realize that none of those foods tasted as good as feeling healthy and losing weight. i've lost a bit over 3 lbs in a week and feel that i WILL reach my goal one day.
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i am also following the Omni diet, although i'm not using the hCG, just the food/exercise/water intake portion. it's free, just google the info**0
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