fine when sober, but when drunk...
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tartansheep wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic.
Whew, thank goodness.
For a moment there, I thought maybe your priorities might be a bit skewed.
...is that sarcasm?
i'm an ex drug user. i smoke far too much and i drink too much alcohol and coffee, i'm mentally ill and i'm nowhere near straight.
if i'm going to be a stereotypical working class queer pinko commie scumbag at least i don't want to give the daily mail another reason to demonise me, hence the weight loss.
Now that you have shared some information about your life, I am a bit concerned. Not judging you at all. It's just that mental health is a huge part of weight loss, weight gain, and any fitness goals for that matter. It is extremely important to be mentally healthy when trying to achieve such goals.
Do you see a psychiatrist?
mm not really. concerned i was developing orthorexia (ha) a few months ago so went, explained the deal, and got told i was just a normal "young person". how i hate that phrase! the thing is that i feel like when i have my weight back under control, i will be able to get the rest of m life under control.
not sure if that makes sense really. . .
sorry for being snappy. tired, should be sleeping really, but too guilty over all this food to sleep!
People are trying to help.
Your weight isn't the problem. Your mental state is the problem. Learn to love yourself, stop abusing your body, and you will have success with weight loss and all other avenues of your life.0 -
I feel your pain, I limit myself to getting wasted once a week ~ at least it makes me dance a lot
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic.
Whew, thank goodness.
For a moment there, I thought maybe your priorities might be a bit skewed.
...is that sarcasm?
i'm an ex drug user. i smoke far too much and i drink too much alcohol and coffee, i'm mentally ill and i'm nowhere near straight.
if i'm going to be a stereotypical working class queer pinko commie scumbag at least i don't want to give the daily mail another reason to demonise me, hence the weight loss.
Now that you have shared some information about your life, I am a bit concerned. Not judging you at all. It's just that mental health is a huge part of weight loss, weight gain, and any fitness goals for that matter. It is extremely important to be mentally healthy when trying to achieve such goals.
Do you see a psychiatrist?
mm not really. concerned i was developing orthorexia (ha) a few months ago so went, explained the deal, and got told i was just a normal "young person". how i hate that phrase! the thing is that i feel like when i have my weight back under control, i will be able to get the rest of m life under control.
not sure if that makes sense really. . .
sorry for being snappy. tired, should be sleeping really, but too guilty over all this food to sleep!
I'm confused. You said you are mentally ill. So why did the doctor say you are "normal"? Did they give you a diagnosis of a specific mental illness?
I understand where you are coming from but my point is that it's difficult to get there when you aren't mentally stable because weight loss is taxing (mentally, physically, and emotionally). Weight loss comes with many obstacles. It's not always smooth sailing. And when things get rough, it's hard to push through if you are not mentally stable. For example, a person who suffers from depression and uses food as a coping mechanism is more likely to rely on food to make them feel better which consequently makes a calorie deficit difficult to maintain.
oh, sorry, explained that badly. they said i didn't have it (at 14/15 i had tendencies towards disordered eating but then when i was 18 they diagnosed me with bipolar and they then decided the eating stuff was just bipolar? not really sure. anyway, they didn't take me seriously)
but yeah, i get that. i do use food as a crutch -- better than drugs maybe.
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If you know your going to get drunk, then don't eat leading up to your drinking..... hopefully that creates a deficit.0
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tartansheep wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That isn't funny, it is sad. What other bad choices do you make when drinking?
wooooow. loads though. at least when i was on the coke i was thin. wish that was a joke.
i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic. gods sake. this wasnt like COME AND JUDGE ME at all, i'm asking for advice, and i get the nth degree? thanks yall love this community lol
something tells me you have some serious issues if you are blowing rails and getting annihilated all the time...0 -
tartansheep wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That isn't funny, it is sad. What other bad choices do you make when drinking?
wooooow. loads though. at least when i was on the coke i was thin. wish that was a joke.
i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic. gods sake. this wasnt like COME AND JUDGE ME at all, i'm asking for advice, and i get the nth degree? thanks yall love this community lol
Enjoy your alcohol while you can, because it becomes an all-consuming *kitten* given half a chance.
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Why do you want to eat less? I'm a bit perplexed as to why someone would choose thin and pathetic over fat and living a great life? (i.e. not being pathetic).0
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tartansheep wrote: »the thing is that i feel like when i have my weight back under control, i will be able to get the rest of m life under control.
not sure if that makes sense really. . .
It doesn't. You have it backwards - right now your weight is not your biggest problem.
Good luck!
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tartansheep wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That isn't funny, it is sad. What other bad choices do you make when drinking?
wooooow. loads though. at least when i was on the coke i was thin. wish that was a joke.
i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic. gods sake. this wasnt like COME AND JUDGE ME at all, i'm asking for advice, and i get the nth degree? thanks yall love this community lol
something tells me you have some serious issues if you are blowing rails and getting annihilated all the time...
yeah. i don't enjoy being sober to experience my thoughts hm0 -
We all have a lot of projects on our to do lists. It sounds like you have some that are beyond MFP's purview of diet and exercise. I will tell you that part of accomplishing many of them start with recognizing that you have value and accepting you as you. If you beat yourself up it's hard to convince yourself to put work into something you don't view as worthwhile.
In the grand scheme of of it, dieting is simple. It's just F-ing math. But you tackle your issues in whatever order you feel capable of dealing with them.0 -
tartansheep wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That isn't funny, it is sad. What other bad choices do you make when drinking?
wooooow. loads though. at least when i was on the coke i was thin. wish that was a joke.
i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic. gods sake. this wasnt like COME AND JUDGE ME at all, i'm asking for advice, and i get the nth degree? thanks yall love this community lol
something tells me you have some serious issues if you are blowing rails and getting annihilated all the time...
yeah. i don't enjoy being sober to experience my thoughts hm
Sheep I think you need to get things in order before you worry about going over a calorie limit. I suggest you don't count calories right now, you just make a conscious decision to eat well. Worry about tackling the drinking issue first!
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tartansheep wrote: »so I can eat perfectly as I want to when I'm sober.
as soon as I'm drunk i eat everything! Tonight I've had 2 pieces of pizza, and garlic bread! And a piece of millionaires shortbread.
Tempted to throw up
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How can I stop myself from eating rubbish when drunk? Obvious is not to keep it in the house but my friends alwyas cook it and I can do nothing to resist.
Before you start drinking, prepare something to eat later so you won't be so tempted by your friends' food.0 -
Then it sounds like the place start is getting some help with handling the thoughts. If you can get a handle on that, the drinking will be less compulsive. That opens the way for more consistent eating. I'm wondering why you view yourself as pathetic and whether seeing yourself that way helps.0
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tartansheep wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That's interesting... I'm a student and I've gone 21 almost 22 years without a single sip of alcohol. Excuses, excuses.
i'm not stopping drinking.
i'm not asking to do that! i'm asking how i can stop overeating afterwards!
it's great for you that you don't drink and all but well, i do. i've been doing it since i was 14 and tbh i'd rather eat less so that i can drink more. making pithy comments is absolutely no help.
You don't have to stop drinking. Just stop getting drunk.
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Have you tried calorie cycling on your "off days" to compensate?
Ex: calorie goal: 2500
Party day: 3500 calories
Day after 2000
2nd day after 2000
This or some combination may work better for you0 -
Switch to 420 and lots of cardio? Sorry, that's my best effort on this troll thread.0
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Like others have said, maybe just try to not get drunk as often? I mean, I know you said that's something you like to do and you said you won't stop drinking, so that's not what I'm suggesting.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck. It sounds like you're dealing with a lot right now...0 -
tartansheep wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That's interesting... I'm a student and I've gone 21 almost 22 years without a single sip of alcohol. Excuses, excuses.
i'm not stopping drinking.
i'm not asking to do that! i'm asking how i can stop overeating afterwards!
it's great for you that you don't drink and all but well, i do. i've been doing it since i was 14 and tbh i'd rather eat less so that i can drink more. making pithy comments is absolutely no help.
You don't have to stop drinking. Just stop getting drunk.
No. Alcoholics have to stop drinking. There is no moderation when it comes to an addiction.0 -
tartansheep wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »tartansheep wrote: »jenglish712 wrote: »Or you could not get drunk
haha that would be ideal sadly student lifestyle means i get most of my daily calories from alcohol anyway ahah
That isn't funny, it is sad. What other bad choices do you make when drinking?
wooooow. loads though. at least when i was on the coke i was thin. wish that was a joke.
i get that i'm pathetic!! i am well aware ! but i want to be thin and pathetic not fat and pathetic. gods sake. this wasnt like COME AND JUDGE ME at all, i'm asking for advice, and i get the nth degree? thanks yall love this community lol
something tells me you have some serious issues if you are blowing rails and getting annihilated all the time...
yeah. i don't enjoy being sober to experience my thoughts hm
Please check yourself in to a rehab facility.0 -
well thanks guys.
need to do some thinking maybe.
thanks to the genuine people who want to help though, it really means a lot.
less thanks to the snarky people who seem to think i am trolling. sadly my life really is a cosmic joke0
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