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Dthomas1979
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I'm curious....
1) Does anyone know around how long it takes for a person to start showing results as far as seeing the inches and pounds come off???
2) Does anyone have any ideas on kid friendly healthy meals?
I have a 4 year old and 5 year old and they are not to fond of the kind of food I am eating..
I just want to comment on my dinner tonight...
I ate at subway for dinner and I am so surprised as to how many calories are in just 1 sub.
I ate a 12 inch Roasted chicken breast on wheat with shredded cheese and I looked at how many calories it was. I was stunned that it turned out to be 640 calories, 94 Carbs, 10 fat, 1220 sodium... I also had a (shame on me ) Med Chocolate Chip Frappe from Mc Donalds which was 630 Calories, 28 fat, and 89 Carbs.. I knew Mc Donalds was going to be a lot but I thought subway was suppose to be healthy....
Good thing I did an 1100 calorie work out for house work today....
anyways just a little information on subway so people are aware that it is not all that healthy....
thanks.....
1) Does anyone know around how long it takes for a person to start showing results as far as seeing the inches and pounds come off???
2) Does anyone have any ideas on kid friendly healthy meals?
I have a 4 year old and 5 year old and they are not to fond of the kind of food I am eating..
I just want to comment on my dinner tonight...
I ate at subway for dinner and I am so surprised as to how many calories are in just 1 sub.
I ate a 12 inch Roasted chicken breast on wheat with shredded cheese and I looked at how many calories it was. I was stunned that it turned out to be 640 calories, 94 Carbs, 10 fat, 1220 sodium... I also had a (shame on me ) Med Chocolate Chip Frappe from Mc Donalds which was 630 Calories, 28 fat, and 89 Carbs.. I knew Mc Donalds was going to be a lot but I thought subway was suppose to be healthy....
Good thing I did an 1100 calorie work out for house work today....
anyways just a little information on subway so people are aware that it is not all that healthy....
thanks.....
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Cheese adds up. Creamy dressings too. I eat a six or four inch. Knowledge is power.0
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Your calorie burn for housework may cause you a problem. You are over estimating your burn, I think. Subway is not low calorie but that is what they would like to believe.0
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The first thing that jumped out at me is you said you burned 1100 calories doing housework today, which I presume you must have logged by getting the calorie estimate from the MFP exercise database? If so, that burn is way overestimated. Even if you are obese, and I don't know whether you are or not, it's doubtful you burned that many calories just doing housework. The only exercise burns logged are cardio workouts.
I don't now how long it will take you to see results, but it took few months for me to see inches lost. Weight loss is not linear, and inches come off where they choose to come off.
I don't have kids, but my nieces just had whatever was cooked for dinner. Why should they have anything different? What kind of food are you eating that they are not fond of?
There is nothing at all wrong with your dinner, as long as what you choose to eat fits into your calorie goals and your macros are in line with what you choose.
What are your stats? How much are you trying to lose?
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The wonderful/annoying thing about weight loss is the learning experience! (I'll bet you'll think twice before getting a frappe now considering how much work it takes to burn off) Eventually you'll work out what you're wiling to spend a few more calories on and what's not worth it. You'll get there, just keep working at it
Inches and pounds differs depending on your stats, 2 pounds a week is generally a safe place to start and then 1 pound a week when you drop more... but in saying that, for me, I would drop a couple pounds one week and then nothing the next, just keep going and it'l move
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640 for a 12" Sub is actually pretty good, that's quite a lot of food. I often have a 6" for lunch and think it's a calorie bargain for quick and easy at 320 cals...
I mean we're talkling a 12" bread roll and good 200+ grams of chicken, even the leanest cooked chicken breast is going to be 300+ calories for 200g cooked. Bread tends to be high in calories, just by its very nature. If you had cheese and dressing, that adds up too.
Don't go confusing higher calories with "healthy", either. Just because something in higher in calories doesn't make it unhealthy, and just because something is low calorie doesn't make it healthy.0 -
I have a 6 & 3 yo. Making healthy kid friendly meals isn't as hard as it may seem at first.
Tacos- use whole wheat tortillas, let the kids choose what goes on theirs. Usually mine do meat, cheese & taco sauce but they like avocado (when available) and have just recently refried beans (because it smelled so good!).
Add lots of veggies for you (tomatoes, bell peppers, avocado, beans, etc.) watch the cheese portion since it's calorie dense.
Pasta- pasta can be healthy, just watch the portions! Again put lots of veggies in yours and see if there are some your kids will like. Mine like mushrooms and bell peppers in pasta.
Soup- I find puréed soups go down well with my kids. Potato & broccoli, squash, lentil (yes really!). Or hearty things like beef stew, ham & pea, etc. Add a slice of bread or a biscuit w/ some butter.
Oven "fried" chicken, vegetable, corn or mashed potatoes (I make it with broth instead of milk or cream and a little butter. It works!)
Homemade pizza- use store bought dough if you don't have time to make it. Easiest sauce ever- purée 1 can San Marzano or Roma tomatoes. That's it! Let kids add the cheese & toppings they want.
There's also the trick of giving them cut up vegtables before dinner when they're REALLY hungry so they get those first. Then if they're picky about dinner it's not such a big deal. 0 -
I have a 6 & 3 yo. Making healthy kid friendly meals isn't as hard as it may seem at first.
Tacos- use whole wheat tortillas, let the kids choose what goes on theirs. Usually mine do meat, cheese & taco sauce but they like avocado (when available) and have just recently refried beans (because it smelled so good!).
Add lots of veggies for you (tomatoes, bell peppers, avocado, beans, etc.) watch the cheese portion since it's calorie dense.
Pasta- pasta can be healthy, just watch the portions! Again put lots of veggies in yours and see if there are some your kids will like. Mine like mushrooms and bell peppers in pasta.
Soup- I find puréed soups go down well with my kids. Potato & broccoli, squash, lentil (yes really!). Or hearty things like beef stew, ham & pea, etc. Add a slice of bread or a biscuit w/ some butter.
Oven "fried" chicken, vegetable, corn or mashed potatoes (I make it with broth instead of milk or cream and a little butter. It works!)
Homemade pizza- use store bought dough if you don't have time to make it. Easiest sauce ever- purée 1 can San Marzano or Roma tomatoes. That's it! Let kids add the cheese & toppings they want.
There's also the trick of giving them cut up vegtables before dinner when they're REALLY hungry so they get those first. Then if they're picky about dinner it's not such a big deal.
Well, I'm coming to your house for food, and I'm not even a kid.
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Dthomas1979 wrote: »I'm curious....
1) Does anyone know around how long it takes for a person to start showing results as far as seeing the inches and pounds come off???
2) Does anyone have any ideas on kid friendly healthy meals?
I have a 4 year old and 5 year old and they are not to fond of the kind of food I am eating..
I just want to comment on my dinner tonight...
I ate at subway for dinner and I am so surprised as to how many calories are in just 1 sub.
I ate a 12 inch Roasted chicken breast on wheat with shredded cheese and I looked at how many calories it was. I was stunned that it turned out to be 640 calories, 94 Carbs, 10 fat, 1220 sodium... I also had a (shame on me ) Med Chocolate Chip Frappe from Mc Donalds which was 630 Calories, 28 fat, and 89 Carbs.. I knew Mc Donalds was going to be a lot but I thought subway was suppose to be healthy....
Good thing I did an 1100 calorie work out for house work today....
anyways just a little information on subway so people are aware that it is not all that healthy....
thanks.....
Try a 6 inch only flat bread. Load up on the veggies. I usually get a double turkey with no cheese, lettuce, spinach, tomatoes, cucumbers, avocado, pineapple and jalapenos. I get black pepper and lots of mustard. Its still really high in sodium, so don't have one every day, but it is delicious and satiating.0 -
I have a 6 & 3 yo. Making healthy kid friendly meals isn't as hard as it may seem at first.
Tacos- use whole wheat tortillas, let the kids choose what goes on theirs. Usually mine do meat, cheese & taco sauce but they like avocado (when available) and have just recently refried beans (because it smelled so good!).
Add lots of veggies for you (tomatoes, bell peppers, avocado, beans, etc.) watch the cheese portion since it's calorie dense.
Pasta- pasta can be healthy, just watch the portions! Again put lots of veggies in yours and see if there are some your kids will like. Mine like mushrooms and bell peppers in pasta.
Soup- I find puréed soups go down well with my kids. Potato & broccoli, squash, lentil (yes really!). Or hearty things like beef stew, ham & pea, etc. Add a slice of bread or a biscuit w/ some butter.
Oven "fried" chicken, vegetable, corn or mashed potatoes (I make it with broth instead of milk or cream and a little butter. It works!)
Homemade pizza- use store bought dough if you don't have time to make it. Easiest sauce ever- purée 1 can San Marzano or Roma tomatoes. That's it! Let kids add the cheese & toppings they want.
There's also the trick of giving them cut up vegtables before dinner when they're REALLY hungry so they get those first. Then if they're picky about dinner it's not such a big deal.
Well, I'm coming to your house for food, and I'm not even a kid.
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Dthomas1979 wrote: »
1) Does anyone know around how long it takes for a person to start showing results as far as seeing the inches and pounds come off???
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Good thing I did an 1100 calorie work out for house work today....
LOL - now that's funny stuff ...
...and a textbook demonstration of why folks complain about not seeing the results they want.
HINT: I have to do a HARD and FAST 11-miler run to burn 1100. No way does any amount of "house work" (short of building the house itself, with only hand tools, wearing a weight vest) - no way does *any* house work come close to even half those calories. You're only kidding yourself. The rest of us see through it.
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Dthomas1979 wrote: »I'm curious....
1) Does anyone know around how long it takes for a person to start showing results as far as seeing the inches and pounds come off???
2) Does anyone have any ideas on kid friendly healthy meals?
I have a 4 year old and 5 year old and they are not to fond of the kind of food I am eating..
I just want to comment on my dinner tonight...
I ate at subway for dinner and I am so surprised as to how many calories are in just 1 sub.
I ate a 12 inch Roasted chicken breast on wheat with shredded cheese and I looked at how many calories it was. I was stunned that it turned out to be 640 calories, 94 Carbs, 10 fat, 1220 sodium... I also had a (shame on me ) Med Chocolate Chip Frappe from Mc Donalds which was 630 Calories, 28 fat, and 89 Carbs.. I knew Mc Donalds was going to be a lot but I thought subway was suppose to be healthy....
Good thing I did an 1100 calorie work out for house work today....
anyways just a little information on subway so people are aware that it is not all that healthy....
thanks.....
Pounds, if you are logging accurately, almost immediately in my experience. It takes a while for other people to notice. I lost over 20 pounds before people commented on it.
I would not go by MFP's burns, especially for things like housework/yardwork. Most people eat half of their exercise calories. Personally, I don't log housework and only log a fraction of the yardwork. But don't beat yourself up for today--just move on. You will make better choices tomorrow.0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »HINT: I have to do a HARD and FAST 11-miler run to burn 1100.
No you don't. Work is defined by the displacement of mass across a distance. The speed at which it occurs does not influence the amount of energy consumed.
To burn 1100 calories you may have had to move 11 miles, but you'd burn the same calories (roughly) walking, running, or skipping there. In fact, as running is more efficient than walking, if you'd walked 11 miles you'd have burned MORE than 1100 calories.
When you say things like "you have to run hard and fast for 11 miles" you will discourage people from exercising. There's no reason a beginner couldn't start by walking.0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »HINT: I have to do a HARD and FAST 11-miler run to burn 1100.
No you don't. Work is defined by the displacement of mass across a distance. The speed at which it occurs does not influence the amount of energy consumed.
To burn 1100 calories you may have had to move 11 miles, but you'd burn the same calories (roughly) walking, running, or skipping there. In fact, as running is more efficient than walking, if you'd walked 11 miles you'd have burned MORE than 1100 calories.
This is nonsense.
Read this...
http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/how-many-calories-are-you-really-burning?page=single
TL;DR: Run faster, burn more calories.0 -
This is nonsense.
Read this...
http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/how-many-calories-are-you-really-burning?page=single
TL;DR: Run faster, burn more calories.
Interesting article! Just like the author of that linked story, I apparently was misled by previous physics professors. Thanks for linking.0 -
To clear things up the amount of house work I did was a full house clean kinda a pre spring cleaning it took me 3 hours to clean everything with my full spring cleaning including:
Sweeping carpet since it burns more cals then vacuuming, Sweeping and mopping kitchen washing clothes, cleaning room, walking, stretching, cleaning bathroom, Stretching again, picking up garbage, taking garbage out.. cleaning windows, my belly dancing workout this morning, ect... I totaled all the calories together for each individual activity and that is what it came up to.....
Thanks for the ideas for my children... and if you knew my children you would understand y cleaning is such a task... anywho that's why I said that many calories....thanks0 -
please understand I am only wanting positive feed back if you are going to be negative in anyway to anyones posts on here the please do not comment
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my stats are I want to lose 90 pounds,
I weigh 240 pounds and I want to lose the weight before the end of the year so im hoping I will be able to kick the weight in the butt......0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »HINT: I have to do a HARD and FAST 11-miler run to burn 1100.
No you don't. Work is defined by the displacement of mass across a distance. The speed at which it occurs does not influence the amount of energy consumed.
To burn 1100 calories you may have had to move 11 miles, but you'd burn the same calories (roughly) walking, running, or skipping there. In fact, as running is more efficient than walking, if you'd walked 11 miles you'd have burned MORE than 1100 calories.
This is nonsense.
Read this...
http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/how-many-calories-are-you-really-burning?page=single
TL;DR: Run faster, burn more calories.
That article (and the study it features) does NOT say running faster burns more calories than running slower.
It says running burns more calories than walking slow/briskly, but fewer calories than walking really really fast (~12:30 min/mile).
I have not been able to find any actual studies on whether running speed affects calories burned per mile. Lots of "studies show" and vague assertions either way. A couple times I've come across references to studies that...don't show anything either way about running speed's effect on calorie burning.
ETA: If you've got the research either way, I'm super interested to see it. 0 -
Dthomas1979 wrote: »please understand I am only wanting positive feed back if you are going to be negative in anyway to anyones posts on here the please do not comment
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my stats are I want to lose 90 pounds,
I weigh 240 pounds and I want to lose the weight before the end of the year so im hoping I will be able to kick the weight in the butt......
No one is being negative. They are pointing out very good facts that can help you reach your goals; like not thinking high calorie is unhealthy, or logging house cleaning as exercise. Right now you are most likely overlogging your exercising, which is not going to give you accurate calorie burns. I never log cleaning, because it is not consistent cardio that you can get an accurate calorie burn from. I'm sorry, but I doubt you burned almost 400 calories an hour cleaning. I burn 300+ after 45 minutes hardcore on the elliptical, and even at my heaviest 30lbs ago, I would still need around 45-60 minutes of consistent cardio to meet a portion of your logged burns. Most seasoned veterans on here will say (like you've already seen) to only log actual cardio exercises.
Additionally, you also got good advice on meal ideas as well; I'm failing to see where the negativity is. It's really important on this site to be receptive to others who have been in your shoes, and want to see you succeed. There aren't many free sites out there where people are willing to give advice, mentor you, and steer you away from potentially incorrect ideas towards food/weight loss approaches for free. We've all been there, and want to make sure you are approaching this in the best way possible.0 -
Positive reinforcement of incorrect assumptions leads to weight stall / gain and disappointment
I love these boards because you get to hear the truth ..which as grown-ups should be what you are looking for
Try skinnytaste.com for lots of lovely recipes
1100 calorie burn for 3 hours heavy workout ...I can buy that ...just be careful with calorie burns0 -
Dthomas1979 wrote: »please understand I am only wanting positive feed back if you are going to be negative in anyway to anyones posts on here the please do not comment
Just so you know, posting on a PUBLIC forum and then asking people not to comment isnt going to end well... plus no one has been negative, they have just pointed out things that might HELP you...0 -
This is going to be a huge hurdle for you to overcome.Dthomas1979 wrote: »please understand I am only wanting positive feed back if you are going to be negative in anyway to anyones posts on here the please do not comment
If are not prepared to listen to good advice from people pointing out your mistakes you are going to have to learn it the hard way when you don't get the results you expect.
“Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others.”
- Otto von Bismarck
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Dthomas1979 wrote: »please understand I am only wanting positive feed back if you are going to be negative in anyway to anyones posts on here the please do not comment
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my stats are I want to lose 90 pounds,
I weigh 240 pounds and I want to lose the weight before the end of the year so im hoping I will be able to kick the weight in the butt......
People are not being negative, they are telling you that you are not going to lose this way. Your dinner alone was almost all the calories the average woman needs to maintain a normal weight, without exercise. Unfortunately, no the 3 hours cleaning did not burn 1000+ calories, on anything close to that. Count this day as a learning experience, and use it to make better choices tomorrow.0 -
I learned the hard way about Subway too.
I don't like the flat bread, so to save calories, I just take off a piece of the wheat bread (top or bottom) and fold my sandwich in half. I never feel like Subway puts enough toppings on their sandwiches, so by eliminating some of the bread, it solves that problem too! Win/win! 0 -
Take it from a heavy girl- don't log the cleaning & every day activities. By all means, clean your *kitten* off because while mfp overestimates the burn, you are still burning...just don't log it. If you're doing some sort of cardio log that, but still keep in mind the mfp burn estimate is overly generous most of the time. So, I try not to eat back my exercise calories (or only half).0
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Cleaning is normal daily activity and included already in your activity level. Regardless, the burn you're claiming is really high and you're only sabotaging yourself. As far as eating out, there is nothing wrong with it, but you will never get as much bang for your buck, (higher calories and sodium). Additionally, drinking your calories is taking away from you getting real food, thus keeping you sated longer.Dthomas1979 wrote: »please understand I am only wanting positive feed back if you are going to be negative in anyway to anyones posts on here the please do not comment
These comments are being made to help you address your concerns and are not meant to be negative. Sometimes honesty bites!0 -
About that subway sub -- it's not 640, I assume you had the chicken breast, it's more like 900 to 1000 calories after you add the cheese and dressings especially if you had a creamy dressing.0
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cheshirecatastrophe wrote: »SergeantSausage wrote: »HINT: I have to do a HARD and FAST 11-miler run to burn 1100.
No you don't. Work is defined by the displacement of mass across a distance. The speed at which it occurs does not influence the amount of energy consumed.
To burn 1100 calories you may have had to move 11 miles, but you'd burn the same calories (roughly) walking, running, or skipping there. In fact, as running is more efficient than walking, if you'd walked 11 miles you'd have burned MORE than 1100 calories.
This is nonsense.
Read this...
http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/how-many-calories-are-you-really-burning?page=single
TL;DR: Run faster, burn more calories.
That article (and the study it features) does NOT say running faster burns more calories than running slower.
It says running burns more calories than walking slow/briskly, but fewer calories than walking really really fast (~12:30 min/mile).
I have not been able to find any actual studies on whether running speed affects calories burned per mile. Lots of "studies show" and vague assertions either way. A couple times I've come across references to studies that...don't show anything either way about running speed's effect on calorie burning.
ETA: If you've got the research either way, I'm super interested to see it.
Correct, run speed doesn't seem to affect burn, just as long as you run. There are some extra calories due to natural inefficiencies as you increase speed, as well as wind resistance, but they are minor and often below the threashold of significance.
Also, the fast walking mentioned is speed/race walking because running is mechanically more efficient once you hit a certain speed and when you walk at those speeds you have to burn more to make up for that inefficiency.0 -
600+ calories for a 12 inch sub sounds pretty low cal to me.0
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My kids are now in college but even when the were little these are the ways I would find to cook for them while I was eating to lose:
Spaghetti or Chili...these are easy places to hide lots of veggies. Diced onions, peppers and even carrots super small get hidden in a red sauce very easily. My kids could always detect mushrooms though somehow. I also used lower calorie ground turkey in place of beef and for myself would have my spaghetti sauce either on a piece of low cal toast (similar to a sloppy joe) or just carefully measure out my pasta.
Tacos: Taco meat made with ground turkey and a can of black beans and again with finely diced onions and peppers went unnoticed by my kids. I never told them it was any different and on a tortilla with cheese and lettuce, they were perfectly happy. I would have the taco salad version and be perfectly fine!
Classic meat, potatoes, veggies: make it a lean protein such as chicken, double up on the veggies, and make a starch that doesn't tempt you as much. I would find it easy to just eat the meat and veggies and let the kids and husband have the potatoes or pasta. OR if I felt I had to have it, just have a tiny portion.
I also strongly encourage you to have your kids have one bite of whatever veggies you are eating...over the years, my kids have discovered several that they like and now they are cooking them on their own. Going to visit them in college this weekend and showing them how to prepare a roasted chicken and roasted root vegetables...a family favorite!0
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