Diet fizzy juice?

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  • SteampunkSongbird
    SteampunkSongbird Posts: 826 Member
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    I literally drink almost nothing but Coke Zero, hasn't killed me yet!
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,324 Member
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    Annie3623 wrote: »
    If you don't mind drinking chemicals then it's fine for you, anything that can be used to as a household cleaning product in my eyes, is never a good move.

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    I eat a 'clean' diet so none of the commercial fizzy juices for me. I do on occasion when I'm really craving it, have some flavored stevia drops in club soda/seltzer. They make flavors like grape, cola, root beer, vanilla cream... so it tastes like a soda but with less potential for harm.

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  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
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    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    For the record OP, I just love Irn Bru! It’s so hard to get the original recipe here in Canada!
    I'm old enough to remember the old Irn Bru ads... Made in Scotland from girders...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PxuFQCDis

    OMG, I haven't seen that in years, I loved that ad!
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
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    elphie754 wrote: »
    I eat a 'clean' diet so none of the commercial fizzy juices for me. I do on occasion when I'm really craving it, have some flavored stevia drops in club soda/seltzer. They make flavors like grape, cola, root beer, vanilla cream... so it tastes like a soda but with less potential for harm.

    Yeah.... No. Those "drops" like have the SAME artificial sweetnERs and "chemicals" as diet soda. Most do. So basically, you are a self admitting hypocrite.

    Also- please show evidence of those so called harm...

    LOL, thank you. Flavored stevia drops? Might as well order a fountain diet Coke, where their artificially sweetened "drops" are automatically mixed with plain seltzer for your drinking pleasure.

    I actually prefer the plain old fizzy water from my Sodastream, but that's not because I'm a Goddess of Health, it's because I don't like drinking sweet drinks, they just make me more thirsty.
  • sheldonz42
    sheldonz42 Posts: 233 Member
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    Annie3623 wrote: »
    If you don't mind drinking chemicals then it's fine for you, anything that can be used to as a household cleaning product in my eyes, is never a good move.

    Ever heard of "steam cleaning?" That would be water used as a household cleaning product. And, as others have said, everything you drink is a chemical because the only thing that isn't a chemical is nothing...
  • kyta32
    kyta32 Posts: 670 Member
    edited February 2015
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    There are many different artificial sweeteners, and they interact in the body in different ways.

    Aspartame (in many diet beverages) is considered safe by the FDA, although there has been studies that indicate a cancer risk in rats, and the consumption of "diet" beverages increases the risk of Type 2 diabetes and being overweight and obese. Aspertame may also be counterindicated for people who are sensitive to it, have problems processing phenylalanine, or those with migraines, or diseases like depression or fibromyalgia.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.full.pdf+html
    Consumption of 568 ml of diet soda/wk (1 20 oz drink - McDonalds Medium, Burger King Small) increased risk of getting type 2 diabetes by 15% over 14 years.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535548
    Increase in BMI associated with consumption of diet beverages

    Acesulfame K (diet sodas) is indicated in rat studies to affect prenatal development and neurological function (with long-term use).

    Sucralose (in some diet sweeteners like MIO and quest bars) can impact gut flora, potentially causing glucose intolerance (prediabetes), or interactions with medications
    http://www.nature.com/news/sugar-substitutes-linked-to-obesity-1.15938
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

    Sugar alcohols and Stevia are not artificial sweeteners, but are used in some low-calorie beverages.

    There are a variety of sugar alcohols (Mannitol, Erythritol [quest bars], Xylitol [gum]), each with a different calorie value (2.6 cal/gram - 0.2 cal/gram), and some are more irritating than others (some people get bloating and gastric distress with as little as 1 serving).

    Stevia can lower blood pressure, blood glucose, and insulin levels. Anyone taking medications to manage blood pressure or blood sugar may want to talk to a Dr. about their Stevia intake.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2000.00260.x/abstract
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
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    kyta32 wrote: »
    There are many different artificial sweeteners, and they interact in the body in different ways.

    Aspartame (in many diet beverages) is considered safe by the FDA, although there has been studies that indicate a cancer risk in rats, and the consumption of "diet" beverages increases the risk of Type 2 diabetes and being overweight and obese. Aspertame may also be counterindicated for people who are sensitive to it, have problems processing phenylalanine, or those with migraines, or diseases like depression or fibromyalgia.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.full.pdf+html
    Consumption of 568 ml of diet soda/wk (1 20 oz drink - McDonalds Medium, Burger King Small) increased risk of getting type 2 diabetes by 15% over 14 years.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535548
    Increase in BMI associated with consumption of diet beverages

    Acesulfame K (diet sodas) is indicated in rat studies to affect prenatal development and neurological function (with long-term use).

    Sucralose (in some diet sweeteners like MIO and quest bars) can impact gut flora, potentially causing glucose intolerance (prediabetes), or interactions with medications
    http://www.nature.com/news/sugar-substitutes-linked-to-obesity-1.15938
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

    Sugar alcohols and Stevia are not artificial sweeteners, but are used in some low-calorie beverages.

    There are a variety of sugar alcohols (Mannitol, Erythritol [quest bars], Xylitol [gum]), each with a different calorie value (2.6 cal/gram - 0.2 cal/gram), and some are more irritating than others (some people get bloating and gastric distress with as little as 1 serving).

    Stevia can lower blood pressure, blood glucose, and insulin levels. Anyone taking medications to manage blood pressure or blood sugar may want to talk to a Dr. about their Stevia intake.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2000.00260.x/abstract

    You have to be careful how much weight you put on studies like the first two you linked. They are observational (not a controlled trial) and find correlations, not causation.

    And you have to be careful about putting much weight on rat studies.

    I think it could be said that the diet fizzy drinks are fine, assuming no special health circumstances or obscene amounts of consumption.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
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    kyta32 wrote: »
    There are many different artificial sweeteners, and they interact in the body in different ways.

    Aspartame (in many diet beverages) is considered safe by the FDA, although there has been studies that indicate a cancer risk in rats, and the consumption of "diet" beverages increases the risk of Type 2 diabetes and being overweight and obese. Aspertame may also be counterindicated for people who are sensitive to it, have problems processing phenylalanine, or those with migraines, or diseases like depression or fibromyalgia.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.full.pdf+html
    Consumption of 568 ml of diet soda/wk (1 20 oz drink - McDonalds Medium, Burger King Small) increased risk of getting type 2 diabetes by 15% over 14 years.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18535548
    Increase in BMI associated with consumption of diet beverages

    Acesulfame K (diet sodas) is indicated in rat studies to affect prenatal development and neurological function (with long-term use).

    Sucralose (in some diet sweeteners like MIO and quest bars) can impact gut flora, potentially causing glucose intolerance (prediabetes), or interactions with medications
    http://www.nature.com/news/sugar-substitutes-linked-to-obesity-1.15938
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291

    Sugar alcohols and Stevia are not artificial sweeteners, but are used in some low-calorie beverages.

    There are a variety of sugar alcohols (Mannitol, Erythritol [quest bars], Xylitol [gum]), each with a different calorie value (2.6 cal/gram - 0.2 cal/gram), and some are more irritating than others (some people get bloating and gastric distress with as little as 1 serving).

    Stevia can lower blood pressure, blood glucose, and insulin levels. Anyone taking medications to manage blood pressure or blood sugar may want to talk to a Dr. about their Stevia intake.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2000.00260.x/abstract

    Oh wow. Not only is aspartame dangerous but stevia can lowers bp and other "magical" claims? All in one post? It's like all the evil/benefit threads wrapped up with one big bow!
  • natboosh69
    natboosh69 Posts: 276 Member
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    I drink nothing but diet coke and it doesn't hinder weight loss :) It's not particularly healthy but I still lose weight.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
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    Jruzer wrote: »
    I don't drink any of that diet stuff.
    Here in Australia we call fizzy drinks by their actual names: coke, sprite, fanta, solo etc etc
    What do y'all do when you ask for a drink at a restaurant or wherever? You can't say " give me a glass of pop or soda", right?

    Curious. How do you inquire about that general kind of beverage?

    Say for example you're going to stop in at a convenience store and are getting a drink, and you ask your travelling companion if they would like one. How do you ask? You certainly wouldn't say "Would you like a coke? No? How about a sprite? No? How about a fanta?"

    To answer your question, if I know what I want I'll order the specific product. If I don't know what the establishment has, I'll first check the menu or ask the server.

    I just ask "do you want a drink" or "what do you want"
    Saying " get me a pop", could mean a hundred different brands.