Fridays during Lent
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I can relate. I am catholic and don't like fish either. I eat eggs, cottage cheese, and other veggie options found in the vegetarian section of the grocery store. They have burger and chicken type patties and even veggie crumbles that I like even better in some sauces and soups.0
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My Husband is a old school Catholic (he attends a Portuegse church), and follows the no meat on Fridays all year long. He and I both love fish which I make every Friday, however my kids don't like most of it, so I end up making separate foods for them (but I stick to the no meat except for my underweight toddler). My suggestion would to search online for some vegetarian recipes and try some that look good0
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Yikes, no salad or fish?
I guess I'd do soups, beans and rice, eggs, you can do a pasta that isn't very high in calories.
If you do eggs for morning, soup for lunch, should be plenty of calories left for a good pasta meal.0 -
DjinnMarie wrote: »I'm Roman Catholic and have never heard that dairy products are off limits.
Correct. We can eat eggs, milk, even soup made from chicken stock as long as it doesn't have meat actually in it. Had to research this when I wanted gravy one time lol. Gravy is a'ok!0 -
You've gotten great advice already, OP. I did an omelet this morning, but no reason that couldn't be an excellent lunch or dinner. Vegetarian chili or anything with beans is also a good one, and spaghetti squash is really easy and tasty.
There's no reason to think that pasta can't be a healthy choice, but it's harder to get the protein. I love fish (although for my own reasons I'm doing a vegetarian Friday, not just meatless in the Catholic sense), and especially enjoy a pasta with smoked salmon and veggies. You can try whole wheat pasta which usually tastes good with stronger flavors.
A veggie stir fry with rice and tofu and veggies can be quick and easy too. Rice and beans with greens is a good option. I'd check out some vegetarian threads or websites. One I recommend a lot that has lots of vegetarian options is 101cookbooks.0 -
Why would anyone recommend Fish if you aren't eating meat?0
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I did steal cut oats for lunch and I am doing an omelet for dinner
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I say eat some pasta, just less. You could make some Pasta fagioli with a little cheese sprinkled on it, and a small piece of warm Italian bread will do you fine. Go for a walk if you are worried about a few too many calories on just Friday. This dish has plenty of protein. A small bowl and something else is a good dinner...
I would have salad with the soup, but you don't like salads? Well what about other veggies? Some lightly sauteed mushrooms, zucchini, and maybe some sun dried tomato and a little fresh garlic. Easy on the oil and you can eat a lot of this for not a lot of calories.
You could also do a veggie stir fry as the main dish. Broccoli, and whatever else you like. Pour it over some rice, maybe make your own brown sauce for it (a little soy sauce, a little sugar, some water, corn starch) will cook up nice and make everything delicious.0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »
Odd.
It's been circulating as a story/theory/rumor for ages, but we're talking religion here, so basically stories are fine.
Enough about that......I wish Taco Bell would bring back the lent shrimp tacos!
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ceoverturf wrote: »DjinnMarie wrote: »I'm Roman Catholic and have never heard that dairy products are off limits.
Ditto
Double ditto - and I went to Catholic School
OP - I've been a pescetarian since 1987 so the 'no meat' thing isn't an issue for me, but do you like seafood? Seafood is a very healthy non-meat option.
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As mentioned by another poster It's only 4 fridays out of the year--if you don't hit your protein goals those 4 days nothing will happen. I live in Rome, and we eat fish, eggs, dairy, pasta, pizza etc. just no meat toppings. Last year I had the "but fish is meat" discussion with a guy on here. For us fish is a separate thing, and couldn't tell you why. Interesting that early Christians used a fish as their symbol, also the story was "loaves and fishes" not "loaves and steak".
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snowflake954 wrote: »As mentioned by another poster It's only 4 fridays out of the year--if you don't hit your protein goals those 4 days nothing will happen. I live in Rome, and we eat fish, eggs, dairy, pasta, pizza etc. just no meat toppings. Last year I had the "but fish is meat" discussion with a guy on here. For us fish is a separate thing, and couldn't tell you why. Interesting that early Christians used a fish as their symbol, also the story was "loaves and fishes" not "loaves and steak".
Totally random question hoping you will be able to answer. I was just in Rome earlier this week for work and we went out for dinner. It was a fixed menu and our pasta primi course had beans, mushrooms, and some sort of fish in sort of a brothy sauce. Does that dish ring a bell, I would love to know what it is called so I can look up a recipe....
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Pizza and pasta just make sure you eat a portion size. You don't like salad or fish? Really?0
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I would love to help you out, but it doesn't sound like one of the classic traditional dishes. Do you remember the name of the restaurant? If it's near where we walk around I could check out the menu.0
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I am in the same boat - no mammals or fowl during lent and I don't like seafood and not a big veggie guy either. Here's what I have done:
Friday fasting - very few calories (protein bar, nuts, etc) it is tough but you feel awesome on Sat morning.
Grilled cheese using whole grain breads, add tomato soup
Bagel with cream cheese - not the best but oh well
Potato soup
Pasta with red sauce
Protein meal replacement shakes0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I would love to help you out, but it doesn't sound like one of the classic traditional dishes. Do you remember the name of the restaurant? If it's near where we walk around I could check out the menu.
Casa Bleve. Here's a pic!
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I_Will_End_You wrote: »
Odd.
I think it is only fish b/c beef, pork and fowl were considered a luxury as opposed to fish. Could be wrong tho.
FYI McDonalds created the filet o fish due to poor hamburger sales during Lent.
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Please consider making restitution to whomever you stole the cut oats fromI did steal cut oats for lunch and I am doing an omelet for dinner
Growing up (slightly post-Vatican II, but my mom still did meatless Fridays most of the year -- out of habit, I guess, and maybe to stretch her food budget) we did a lot of grilled cheese and tomato soup; scrambled eggs and vegetable "alphabit" soup; and fish sticks and veggies or cole slaw and fries. Maybe not fitting your macros, though, OP.
Lentil soup is a great, easy choice, whether you make it yourself or go with canned; have a slice of crusty bread on the side. Tofu and veggie stir-fry. Baked potatoes topped with chili beans (no meat) and a little cheese. I like a big pile of cooked veggies (e.g., brussels sprouts, green beans, carrots, mushrooms, cabbage, whatever you like) topped with one or two poached or fried eggs (so the yolk makes a "sauce"), with however much of a carb side (e.g., rice, bulgur, quinoa, pasta) I can fit into my calorie budget.
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snowflake954 wrote: »As mentioned by another poster It's only 4 fridays out of the year--if you don't hit your protein goals those 4 days nothing will happen. I live in Rome, and we eat fish, eggs, dairy, pasta, pizza etc. just no meat toppings. Last year I had the "but fish is meat" discussion with a guy on here. For us fish is a separate thing, and couldn't tell you why. Interesting that early Christians used a fish as their symbol, also the story was "loaves and fishes" not "loaves and steak".
From Wikipedia: "The ichthys or ichthus (/ˈɪkθəs/[1]), from the Greek ikhthýs (ἰχθύς, "fish"), is a symbol consisting of two intersecting arcs, the ends of the right side extending beyond the meeting point so as to resemble the profile of a fish. It was used by early Christians as a secret Christian symbol[2] and now known colloquially as the "sign of the fish" or the "Jesus fish."[3]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthys
also: According to tradition, ancient Christians, during their persecution by the Roman Empire in the first few centuries after Christ, used the fish symbol to mark meeting places and tombs, or to distinguish friends from foes:
According to one ancient story, when a Christian met a stranger in the road, the Christian sometimes drew one arc of the simple fish outline in the dirt. If the stranger drew the other arc, both believers knew they were in good company. Current bumper-sticker and business-card uses of the fish hearken back to this practice.
—Christianity Today, Elesha Coffman, "Ask The Expert"[2]
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snowflake954 wrote: »As mentioned by another poster It's only 4 fridays out of the year--if you don't hit your protein goals those 4 days nothing will happen. I live in Rome, and we eat fish, eggs, dairy, pasta, pizza etc. just no meat toppings. Last year I had the "but fish is meat" discussion with a guy on here. For us fish is a separate thing, and couldn't tell you why. Interesting that early Christians used a fish as their symbol, also the story was "loaves and fishes" not "loaves and steak".
Totally random question hoping you will be able to answer. I was just in Rome earlier this week for work and we went out for dinner. It was a fixed menu and our pasta primi course had beans, mushrooms, and some sort of fish in sort of a brothy sauce. Does that dish ring a bell, I would love to know what it is called so I can look up a recipe....
OK I looked it up and got the address--we walked right near there 2 hours ago! From your picture I can tell you a few things. The pasta used is called mal-talgliata ( badly cut), it is a freshly made pasta, with or without egg, rolled out and cut with a knife a bit haphazardly. There are what we call borlotti beans, in the States--pinto beans. They used a tritato (finely minced carrot, onion and celery), fresh rosemary, and some cherry tomatos. The mushrooms and fish are both chopped up pretty fine, so I can't tell what specific type they are, but I think you could put in what you like. Olive oil and broth--probably vegetable. Finely minced parsely was sprinkled on last.
I would start by putting some olive oil in a non-stick saucepan on low heat with a garlic clove. When the clove starts to brown, take it out. Add tritato plus rosemary, simmer a bit, and I'd probably add a little white wine at this point and then add tomatos, cooked beans and chopped mushrooms, simmer a bit more, add chopped fish. Cook on med-low heat a few minutes and then add broth. Meanwhile, cook your pasta, drain and while still firm add to sauce.
This should give you something similar. The place where you dined looks pretty classy. I'm sure a chef did this. Since I'm an amatuer, I'm just guessing and the proportions are up for grabs. I could do this though and may try it. I'll try and pass by the next time we're near there, and will try to get more info.0 -
Regarding fish: I've also heard a few other ideas on that front.
One is that fish was considered a poor man's food. Anyone could catch fish to eat, whereas livestock or game were much harder to come by.
The other is this (taken from Catholic Answers):The word used for meat is carnis. In modern English, the word meat can refer to any animal flesh. But, in the Latin cited here, it refers to mammals and birds only. So, fish, seafood, amphibians, and insects are permitted (assuming you want to eat some of them); but mammals and fowls are not.0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »As mentioned by another poster It's only 4 fridays out of the year--if you don't hit your protein goals those 4 days nothing will happen. I live in Rome, and we eat fish, eggs, dairy, pasta, pizza etc. just no meat toppings. Last year I had the "but fish is meat" discussion with a guy on here. For us fish is a separate thing, and couldn't tell you why. Interesting that early Christians used a fish as their symbol, also the story was "loaves and fishes" not "loaves and steak".
From Wikipedia: "The ichthys or ichthus (/ˈɪkθəs/[1]), from the Greek ikhthýs (ἰχθύς, "fish"), is a symbol consisting of two intersecting arcs, the ends of the right side extending beyond the meeting point so as to resemble the profile of a fish. It was used by early Christians as a secret Christian symbol[2] and now known colloquially as the "sign of the fish" or the "Jesus fish."[3]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthys
also: According to tradition, ancient Christians, during their persecution by the Roman Empire in the first few centuries after Christ, used the fish symbol to mark meeting places and tombs, or to distinguish friends from foes:
According to one ancient story, when a Christian met a stranger in the road, the Christian sometimes drew one arc of the simple fish outline in the dirt. If the stranger drew the other arc, both believers knew they were in good company. Current bumper-sticker and business-card uses of the fish hearken back to this practice.
—Christianity Today, Elesha Coffman, "Ask The Expert"[2]
How interesting-thanks. 0 -
Regarding fish: I've also heard a few other ideas on that front.
One is that fish was considered a poor man's food. Anyone could catch fish to eat, whereas livestock or game were much harder to come by.
The other is this (taken from Catholic Answers):The word used for meat is carnis. In modern English, the word meat can refer to any animal flesh. But, in the Latin cited here, it refers to mammals and birds only. So, fish, seafood, amphibians, and insects are permitted (assuming you want to eat some of them); but mammals and fowls are not.
In Italian meat is "carne" which obviously comes from latin. That would explain why fish is not considered meat here. As I mentioned, last year this guy was argueing with me because I said my husband does not eat meat, but eats fish. I'm American and have not studied latin,so now your explanation makes things alot clearer to me. Thanks. 0 -
For Roman Catholics, fish, eggs & dairy are all ok. We had taco soup tonight - 1 can each white beans, black beans, vegetarian refried beans, rotel tomatoes, diced tomatoes, vegetable broth, corn, & taco seasoning. Saute an onion and garlic, drain the corn and beans, heat to boiling& simmer 15 minutes. Yummy!GuyIncognito123 wrote: »Not this, because one of the options for observing Lent is no meat, no dairy or eggs on Fridays. You can't have less, you have none.
- I also have a pinto bean & barley dish, or barley vegetable soup I make. We eat pierogies or macaroni, too--I just eat lower carb earlier those days so that I don't end up with a really carb heavy day.
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »As mentioned by another poster It's only 4 fridays out of the year--if you don't hit your protein goals those 4 days nothing will happen. I live in Rome, and we eat fish, eggs, dairy, pasta, pizza etc. just no meat toppings. Last year I had the "but fish is meat" discussion with a guy on here. For us fish is a separate thing, and couldn't tell you why. Interesting that early Christians used a fish as their symbol, also the story was "loaves and fishes" not "loaves and steak".
Totally random question hoping you will be able to answer. I was just in Rome earlier this week for work and we went out for dinner. It was a fixed menu and our pasta primi course had beans, mushrooms, and some sort of fish in sort of a brothy sauce. Does that dish ring a bell, I would love to know what it is called so I can look up a recipe....
OK I looked it up and got the address--we walked right near there 2 hours ago! From your picture I can tell you a few things. The pasta used is called mal-talgliata ( badly cut), it is a freshly made pasta, with or without egg, rolled out and cut with a knife a bit haphazardly. There are what we call borlotti beans, in the States--pinto beans. They used a tritato (finely minced carrot, onion and celery), fresh rosemary, and some cherry tomatos. The mushrooms and fish are both chopped up pretty fine, so I can't tell what specific type they are, but I think you could put in what you like. Olive oil and broth--probably vegetable. Finely minced parsely was sprinkled on last.
I would start by putting some olive oil in a non-stick saucepan on low heat with a garlic clove. When the clove starts to brown, take it out. Add tritato plus rosemary, simmer a bit, and I'd probably add a little white wine at this point and then add tomatos, cooked beans and chopped mushrooms, simmer a bit more, add chopped fish. Cook on med-low heat a few minutes and then add broth. Meanwhile, cook your pasta, drain and while still firm add to sauce.
This should give you something similar. The place where you dined looks pretty classy. I'm sure a chef did this. Since I'm an amatuer, I'm just guessing and the proportions are up for grabs. I could do this though and may try it. I'll try and pass by the next time we're near there, and will try to get more info.
Wow that's amazing! I love that you knew the name of the pasta, because I had never had anything like it, I LOLed at the translation "badly cut" because I commented about the weird shape!
The rest of your recipe sounds amazingly close as well. The funny thing is this is nothing I would have ordered for myself but it was really good!
We also had eggplant parmigiana and veal saltimbocca as well as a ricotta cheesecake with dark cherry sauce and Sicilian wines. It was a great dinner...
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