Is diet pop really bad for you?

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  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    edited March 2015
    dantl wrote: »
    Wow my first post (now my last) - as I find too much negativity here. That's too bad - you should be nurturing a supportive open environment here, rather than being defensive, critical and immature (laughing, really?)

    Absolutely!

    Really!

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    BTW - you Moved The Goalpost there, Dan - by about a mile and a half, right?



  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Everyone is "guilty" of "ingesting chemicals." Life is made up of chemicals. Couching your personal beliefs in formal language does not make them any more accurate.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    Some people crave more high calorie things when they constantly taste sweet stuff, even if it's diet. Some people do better when they don't have sweet drinks all the time. I think it just varies.
  • BuffaloChixSalad
    BuffaloChixSalad Posts: 98 Member
    idk if it is opinion or brain washing by my husband but the sugars found in diet drinks are bad for the body
  • Mija1104
    Mija1104 Posts: 9 Member
    I love my diet Pepsi (and the occasional diet Root Beer or diet Dr Pepper) and have been drinking them for 35+ years . . . . I'm not dead yet. I do limit myself to one (two max) per day and still drink water as much as possible. I've been thin with diet drinks and I've been very heavy with diet drinks - it all came down to how much solid food I was eating though.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    There are no sugars in diet drinks, at least not in the zero calorie drinks. Most artificial sweeteners are GRAS, even the ebil saccharine. There's no really good reason not to drink diet sodas, unless you just don't like the taste of them.
  • MrCoolGrim
    MrCoolGrim Posts: 351 Member
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  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    dantl wrote: »
    Wow my first post (now my last) - as I find too much negativity here. That's too bad - you should be nurturing a supportive open environment here, rather than being defensive, critical and immature (laughing, really?) and let people make their own decisions. If something works for you - great - if not then find what does. There wouldn't be thousands of diets if one way worked for everyone. If you want to state what worked or didn't work for you fine - but there's certainly a better way to do that than what I am seeing here.

    Jessica asked a question, I provided an answer. She asked why she hears that drinking pop will prevent weight loss. Keep in mind everyone is different and there are long term effects to take into consideration. The incidence of metabolic syndrome is a fact - and you can have it and be thin, so be careful not to fall off the diet wagon - the weight gain will be much worse.

    For all of you ingesting chemicals and being so defensive - you do whatever you want. But it doesn't take a genius to know that drinking water is better than drinking pop - or soda or whatever you call it where you live - that is made with chemicals!

    Multiple different scientific studies are cited in the articles below, from several credible resources.

    http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/06/19/artificial-sweeteners-could-be-sabotaging-your-diet/

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/20040630/artificial-sweeteners-damage-diet-efforts?page=1

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/04/saccharin-aspartame-dangers.aspx

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

    http://chriskresser.com/the-unbiased-truth-about-artificial-sweeteners

    http://time.com/3380013/artificial-sweeteners-obesity/

    People offering different opinions = negativity?
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    idk if it is opinion or brain washing by my husband but the sugars found in diet drinks are bad for the body

    There aren't any sugars in diet drinks, and people who say that the aspartame is "bad" for you are fear mongering.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    It makes you bloated but doesn't actually cause true weight gain. But it is just as bad for your teeth because although it has no sugar, it is very acidic.

    How does diet soda make you bloated? Also, to my recollection, diet soda is no more acidic than orange juice, which has acid, sugar, AND calories, btw.
  • sengseng74
    sengseng74 Posts: 35 Member
    Here's a bunch more links proving through Science (not opinions)-that diet soda drinkers are potentially digging themselves early graves:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805418
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/
    http://www.dorway.com/nonindus.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/aspartame-health-risks_b_668692.html
    http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/ExpertInterviewTranscripts/Interview-Victoria-Innes-Brown.pdf

    If some of you really have to have soda/pop, why not try products made with Stevia? At least Stevia is a zero carb, zero calorie sweetener that comes from a natural Peruvian tea leaf. Unlike aspartame, which is genetically modified bacterial waste.

    http://naturalsociety.com/1999-investigation-finds-aspartame-is-made-with-genetically-modified-bacteria/
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Meh. Whatever. Personally, soda makes my eyes water and causes me to belch so it's not really a drink I'd want everyday. But to each his own.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Because 1) natural is not always good for you and 2) stevia tastes like dirt. And . . . Mercola? Seriously?

    My paternal grandmother lived till 97 using saccharine every day, several times a day. My mother is in her mid-70s and she uses artificial sweetener. With the exception of my father, who died at 49 and who did not use artificial sweetener (he died of medication side effects), all of my family members within three generations have died at 85+ years of age or are still alive. With genes like that, I'll take my chances. :)
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    sengratt wrote: »
    Here's a bunch more links proving through Science (not opinions)-that diet soda drinkers are potentially digging themselves early graves:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805418
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/
    http://www.dorway.com/nonindus.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/aspartame-health-risks_b_668692.html
    http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/ExpertInterviewTranscripts/Interview-Victoria-Innes-Brown.pdf

    If some of you really have to have soda/pop, why not try products made with Stevia? At least Stevia is a zero carb, zero calorie sweetener that comes from a natural Peruvian tea leaf. Unlike aspartame, which is genetically modified bacterial waste.

    http://naturalsociety.com/1999-investigation-finds-aspartame-is-made-with-genetically-modified-bacteria/

    Well, Mercola is a quack.

    Also, "Digging themselves an early grave"? Really? Could you be any more dramatic? I doubt that enjoying a diet soda in moderation as part of an otherwise balanced diet will get me to my grave any faster than I'd be going otherwise. I'm more worried about the bourbon that I'm planning to enjoy this weekend.

    In moderation, of course.
  • Mech9
    Mech9 Posts: 252 Member
    Every time I begin to worry about chemicals and stuff... I remember that I'm fat as sheeeesh and probably gonna die from a stroke or a heart attack if I don't lose weight.

    And diet soda tastes so good. Regular soda tastes like chemical-syrup. =[
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Why are so many people "addicted" to soda? What do they put it in it to make some people want to guzzle gallons of it everyday??
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    dantl wrote: »
    It does prevent weight loss because of the chemical artificial sweeteners such as sucralose, acesulfame-K (potassium), saccharin and aspartame. They have zero calories, but the chemicals and the sweet taste with zero calories doesn't trick the brain that you are eating sugar and instead stimulates your appetite so you eat more to make up for the calorie deficit the brain is expecting. It causes you to gain more weight and proportionately more fat and in turn slows your metabolism.

    I would suggest a few things. You can put lemon or cucumber slices in your water to flavor it. You an also try sparkling mineral water (Perrier has flavored waters) or using plain and mixing with a little bit of 100% cranberry juice with a touch of stevia. The more you can fall in love with regular water - the better your weight loss.

    Pure ridiculousness!
  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    edited March 2015
    Why are so many people "addicted" to soda? What do they put it in it to make some people want to guzzle gallons of it everyday??

    We tend to call that : "caffeine" in most cases.

    In others cases, it's no different than being "addicted" to cookies, ice cream, chocolate, or pepperoni pizza: they taste damned good and we have no farking self control, right?

    HINT: Nobody is really "addicted" to any of those. Including soda. Including diet soda.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    Why are so many people "addicted" to soda? What do they put it in it to make some people want to guzzle gallons of it everyday??

    We tend to call that : "caffeine" in most cases.

    In others cases, it's no different than being "addicted" to cookies, ice cream, chocolate, or pepperoni pizza: they taste damned good and we have no farking self control, right?

    HINT: Nobody is really "addicted" to any of those. Including soda. Including diet soda.

    Could call it addiction to food. Addiction to comfort, etc.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    sengratt wrote: »
    Here's a bunch more links proving through Science (not opinions)-that diet soda drinkers are potentially digging themselves early graves:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805418
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/
    http://www.dorway.com/nonindus.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/aspartame-health-risks_b_668692.html
    http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/ExpertInterviewTranscripts/Interview-Victoria-Innes-Brown.pdf

    If some of you really have to have soda/pop, why not try products made with Stevia? At least Stevia is a zero carb, zero calorie sweetener that comes from a natural Peruvian tea leaf. Unlike aspartame, which is genetically modified bacterial waste.

    http://naturalsociety.com/1999-investigation-finds-aspartame-is-made-with-genetically-modified-bacteria/

    What is wrong with bacterial waste? I'm pretty sure bacterial waste is everywhere, including inside us.
  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    Why are so many people "addicted" to soda? What do they put it in it to make some people want to guzzle gallons of it everyday??

    We tend to call that : "caffeine" in most cases.

    In others cases, it's no different than being "addicted" to cookies, ice cream, chocolate, or pepperoni pizza: they taste damned good and we have no farking self control, right?

    HINT: Nobody is really "addicted" to any of those. Including soda. Including diet soda.

    Could call it addiction to food. Addiction to comfort, etc.

    We *could* call it any-darned-thing we want ... but that doesn't make it an addiction, even if we want to call it that.

    I guess I'm "addicted" to water, right?

  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
    My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????

    It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.

    Just be sure and care for your teeth!

    If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
  • LucasEVille
    LucasEVille Posts: 567 Member
    edited March 2015
    dantl wrote: »
    It does prevent weight loss because of the chemical artificial sweeteners such as sucralose, acesulfame-K (potassium), saccharin and aspartame. They have zero calories, but the chemicals and the sweet taste with zero calories doesn't trick the brain that you are eating sugar and instead stimulates your appetite so you eat more to make up for the calorie deficit the brain is expecting. It causes you to gain more weight and proportionately more fat and in turn slows your metabolism.

    I would suggest a few things. You can put lemon or cucumber slices in your water to flavor it. You an also try sparkling mineral water (Perrier has flavored waters) or using plain and mixing with a little bit of 100% cranberry juice with a touch of stevia. The more you can fall in love with regular water - the better your weight loss.

    Strong 1st post there bro....
  • SergeantSausage
    SergeantSausage Posts: 1,673 Member
    edited March 2015
    My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????

    It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.

    Just be sure and care for your teeth!

    If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?

    You do understand that there's quite a bit of what we sometimes call "chemistry" happening between the teeth and the organs, right? Acids being neutralized, molecules broken down and rearranged and the like.

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  • fnoblebrown
    fnoblebrown Posts: 61 Member
    My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
    I'm of the opinion that the artificial sweeteners screw with your metabolism almost as badly as the real thing. Even though there's no carbs/calories, what it does to you chemically is not positive, and you're better off quitting altogether.

    I know it's not easy - I was a six-pack-a-day soda drinker (at a minimum).

    I quit it entirely and have had nothing but water, black tea, and black coffee since September. I lost 30 pounds in the first month without making ANY other change to my diet/exercise routine.
  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
    edited March 2015
    Still doesn't prove anything, doesn't mean it's safe or dangerous, all I know is what I see, of Pepsi can dissolve rust off a nail, I don't want it going through my liver.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    Why are so many people "addicted" to soda? What do they put it in it to make some people want to guzzle gallons of it everyday??

    We tend to call that : "caffeine" in most cases.

    In others cases, it's no different than being "addicted" to cookies, ice cream, chocolate, or pepperoni pizza: they taste damned good and we have no farking self control, right?

    HINT: Nobody is really "addicted" to any of those. Including soda. Including diet soda.

    Could call it addiction to food. Addiction to comfort, etc.

    We *could* call it any-darned-thing we want ... but that doesn't make it an addiction, even if we want to call it that.

    I guess I'm "addicted" to water, right?

    Not sure if you know or care about the differences between psychological and physical addiction.

    I myself having an addictive personality can at least relate a little to compulsive behavior and obsessive tendencies when it comes to eating emotionally.

    Besides, caffeine is physically addictive. There are withdrawal symptoms that, while never to be compared to illicit drug physical withdrawal symptoms, can be very troublesome and painful for a day or two. May not be much, but it IS physically addictive.
  • deviboy1592
    deviboy1592 Posts: 989 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????

    It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.

    Just be sure and care for your teeth!

    If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?

    Toothpaste and a toothbrush.

    What about fruit?

    We can always put it to the test, you drink whatever soda you like, how about 4 cans, and I'll eat 2 apples and 2 cups of strawberries a day, we'll do this for 5 months, take a picture of your teeth and see whose look better. But no brushing, we need to see real results. Hope you have a dental plan.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????

    It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.

    Just be sure and care for your teeth!

    If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?

    Toothpaste and a toothbrush.

    What about fruit?

    We can always put it to the test, you drink whatever soda you like, how about 4 cans, and I'll eat 2 apples and 2 cups of strawberries a day, we'll do this for 5 months, take a picture of your teeth and see whose look better. But no brushing, we need to see real results. Hope you have a dental plan.

    Why don't you switch that up to oranges and tomatoes?
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