11 year old daughter

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  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
    I bought zumba and it came in before we went on vacation. We are dying to do it. She is in cheerleading but that is seasonal for now. I definitely like the alternative snack ideas. She would eat her weight in hot cheetos and ice cream if i let her.

    I never ever tell her anything negative about her body. I personally think she has the cutest litte figure. You could bounce a quarter off that butt of hers. My over all goal is to just teach her healthy habits is all. No dieting.

    She loves dancing and working out with me. So any chance we can do something together its awesome.
  • SLaw4215
    SLaw4215 Posts: 596 Member
    I can totally relate! I have a 12 year old daughter who is 5'5 and wears a size 11 woman's sneaker. The difference is that my daughter weighs quite a bit more than your daughter and she is obese. I am on this site as much for myself as I am to try and give her some tools to learn how to [somewhat] self manage her weight loss education and goals. She is not on a diet either but rather we are on a long-term behavior modification plan LOL She has her own MFP log-in and while she isn't as dedicated about logging/tracking as I am, I am happy to say she has lost 20 pounds since January.

    I have many suggestions - take them or leave them -- you will not offend me :).
    1.) get her involved and let her make decisions -- My daughter pushes her own grocery cart at the grocery store and selects what she will eat for the following week. I don't forcer her to eat exactly what I like and I do encourage an open dialogue but she will feed herself the foods that suit her tastes and because she is invested in the decision making she is far more willing and able to stay goal oriented.
    2.) Know her environments when she is not at home. For example: My daughter has chosen to eat school lunch intead of packing a lunch (to not draw attention to herself) but the average school meal (according to the school menu) is 878 calories per meal. That's a lot of calories for 1 meal. Is it any wonder our kids are growing up with weight issues? That being said, my daughter has to figure those calories into her daily plan and work the rest of her day around that decision.
    3.) Find things to do together -- my daughter has zero desire to walk on a treadmill. She has tried playing basketball, country line dancing/karate/ice skating lessons. She plays the drums at school. Last week we tried Zumba Fitness for the Wii for the first time and really loved it. Tonight we are attending a Zumba Fitness fundraising event at our town's community center so she will get a sense of what a real class might be like.
    4.) cook/prepare meals together -- One of the big obstacles with my daughter is getting her to eat an adequate amount of fruits and vegetables. She won't pick up an apple or a tomato and eat it but she would drink a V-8 and eat a froze fruit bar. I had the thought that if my daughter cooked with me that she might see what is going into some recipes possibly become more relaxed about trying some new things. We also bought a juicer machine and we make our own vegetable soups/juices and frozen ice bars -- our family favorite is pineapple! I have gotten more fresh produce into this child in 5 months than I have since she was eating baby food from a jar. And the variety of vegetables I can get into her because she can't see the "chunks".... like spinach! bell peppers! onion! sweet potato... I can't tell you what a smart move that was on my part.

    I wish you the best of luck. I do hope you will keep me posted and share your progress.
  • lulabellewoowoo
    lulabellewoowoo Posts: 3,125 Member
    My daughter will be 11 in September and is starting middle school. She is 5'2" and weighs about 115 lb. My mother berated me about my weight til I developed eating disorders, so I wanted to be more proactive so we made a goal of her running/jogging/walking a 5K together in October. She started on the treadmill at the gym until they told her she was too young. But they offered a junior fitness certification class so that she could learn all the machines and about nutrition. More $ than I had, but now well worth it. At dinner time, if she asks for a second helping of pasta or something heavy and starchy, I'll ask her if she'd rather have a second helping or dessert. Sometimes she will bypass the ice cream for the pasta. Then she'll just have fruit later in the evening. I don't restrict her on anything, but ask her a lot of times if she is eating because she is bored or if she is really hungry. Now she is learning that she doesn't have to finish everything. If she wants something, but has already had a full meal, I'll put it in a special container for her and she'll put it away until the next meal or snack time, so she knows that no one will take it from her and so she won't have the attitude I have of "if I don't eat it now, it might be gone". At one point, when trying to slow down her eating, she asked if I was calling her fat or something. I simply explained absolutely not, I was helping her to make wise decisions now while her body had a high metabolism, so that when she is my age, she's not having a daily love/hate relationship with food. The great example you are giving her is the best thing too. For me, I love now having a new exercise partner. Her progress motivates me immensely. You are an awesome mom!
  • Still_Sossy
    Still_Sossy Posts: 868 Member
    Kids can be very mean to each other, causing them to often over eat or under eat. Is she involved in any sports or activities? Also I would make a healthy lifestyle part of your family. Have a cheat day but over all over haul what you ALL eat. You really have to be careful with that age as to not send them into the over eaters or under eaters groups with comments about their body. Positive body image is important and difficult for them. I also think you should discuss with her Ped. there are BMI standards for kids, my kids school does them. I think that is just wrong for a kids to come home with a report saying they are under or over or perfect weight. It all sends them a message in one way or the other. Good luck!
  • JMCade
    JMCade Posts: 389 Member
    I would ask them what scale they are using and I would discuss it with her doctor the next time you take her in. According to the BMI on this site, she is in the normal range.
    agree- just plugged the numbers in here and it says healthy-unless something is calculated differently for kids??
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I think you've been given a lot of great advice here so far, but I'm still a bit confused because at 5'4" and 117-120lbs. that is not nearly obese, not even chunky. I would maybe look into re-measuring and weighing to see if those numbers are accurate.

    children have far different muscle and bone density than adults, they have their own scale that's different. I'm not sure whether that is right or not (I didn't look it up) but you can't go by the adult interpretation of obesity.
  • jrbb0309
    jrbb0309 Posts: 55
    Here is the child and teen BMI calculator on the CDC government site.

    http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/dnpabmi/

    Here is the explanation of how children and teens BMI is calculated (which is different than adults):

    http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/childrens_bmi/about_childrens_bmi.html

    I don't know exactly when your daughter was born but my daughter is 11, 5'3 and 3/4" and weighs 106. By the above calculator, her BMI is 18.3 and places her at a healthy weight in the 58th percentile. Using my daughter's b-day since I don't know yours and the same height, your daughter (at 117 pounds) would be 20.2 which would place her at the 78th percentile but still at a healthy weight. Even at 120, she would still be 82nd percentile.

    Do yourself and her a favour and measure and weigh her and show her this site. Explain that the way her school is measuring this is *wrong* and if you really need to, call your doctor, let them know ahead of time why you want to bring her in, and then have your doctor explain the same thing. Your child does not need to be getting a complex that she is obese at this age.
  • jrbb0309
    jrbb0309 Posts: 55
    Sorry. I just wanted to add that taking her shopping with you is a great idea. Learn to read nutrition labels together. Not only for the fat and sugar and sodium content but for foods made mostly out of chemicals and things you can't pronounce. Talk about making better choices. Not necessarily perfect but better. Have her help you cook and meal plan. Get out for walks together. You can both support each other in becoming healthier without putting any emphasis on weight.
  • CatchMom11
    CatchMom11 Posts: 462 Member
    I would also take into consideration that she's going through puberty. I would definitely talk to your doctor (who is definitely going to be more educated than a PE teacher) and go from there.

    I can empathize, I have a 13 year old who deals with the same things. She's not fat by any means but is just like I was at her age. I made the mistake of letting her think that it was baby fat and that she would have a nice slim down sooner or later (like I did) which in turn, made her think that it was going to magically happen and that being physically active wasn't a requirement. I talk to her all the time about the what I'm going through now, or what my mother is going through all because we stopped paying attention to what we were eating and how much exercise we were getting. My mother is 52 and just had half her foot amputated due to diabetes, had open heart surgery 2 years ago, a bypass on the artery in her groin late last year. I keep it real with my daughter.

    I've made eating healthy a family affair so that way one, it's easier for me; two, my family and I are all learning healthy eating habits together; and three, no one feels singled out.

    Good luck and know that you're not alone. It's a touchy subject but it can be done without hurting their feelings or giving them a complex.
  • Slimithy
    Slimithy Posts: 348 Member
    I'm all for putting healthy food in the house andencouraging an active and healthy lifestyle for the whole family. I would be wary of any talk of dieting specifically though. I remember constantly being told I needed to lose weight as a child, yet at the same time both my parents were big and we never had healthy food in the house and we did zero physical activity as a family. Talk to the doctor, but to be honest, if you are only supplying healthy food and leading a healthy active lifestyle by example I think you're doing all you should do. At 11 the body is changing all the time, often gaining and losing pounds through developmental spurts.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    I really love the ideas of taking kids shopping and teaching them about nutritional labels, and guiding them through decision making. To me, learning what a normal portion is and learning portion control have been the most beneficial pars of my weight loss journey this time around.

    My mother went more with the deprivation choice and that's why that method still doesn't work for me. It might work for really little kids but when they get into puberty and that rebellios side rears it's ugly head - if you say no to something, they'll still find a way to get it at school or from their friends in the cafeteria or from a vending machine. That's what I did, and it sounds like that's what the OP's daughter is doing.

    I don't have kids but my husband is clueless about nutrition and has just recently started watching his calorie intake. The one thing he's been really floored by is the number of servings some packages have. He picked up some trail mix the other day and figured it wasn't bad since it was only 90 calories per serving - then later saw that there were 9 servings in that little bag!
  • LesliePierceRN
    LesliePierceRN Posts: 860 Member
    Make sure that the healthy lifestyle is something that your entire family takes part in. Don't make her feel singled out. Maybe a family meeting to discuss how you can all be healthier.

    Kudos and Ditto. She needs to learn healthy habits now, so that she can carry the with her all of her life.. She's growing now and using the calories like gangbusters, but we all know how that's going to slow down and begin to pack on. Maybe if she learns the healthy habits now, she can avoid a life long struggle with her weight.
  • LainMac
    LainMac Posts: 412 Member
    Hi,

    I would agree with the earlier posters on these things:

    BMI - Useless - One of my four kids is solid as granite and is naturallly "cut" from age 5 and his school nurse sent home a note saying that he might be obese. Yeah, right. The kid is nothing but muscle and bones which weighs a lot more than "fat-fat".

    Whole Family eats healthy most of the time - Perfect. Nothing worse than feeling that something is "wrong" with you.

    Calorie control snack sizes - Also great advice - American portions are crazy. When I was a kid, we thought a handful of chips was awesome. Now little kids get bags with 5 times that much chips.

    Whole family "moves" - If the kid isn't doing exercise by his or herself (like on a sports team) then do it with them.

    The only pieces of advice I can add is try to show your child that most ads work by trying to make you feel bad so you'll buy their product to feel better. (You're only cool if you are in these jeans. You're saggy butt will be fixed with these magical but expensive sneakers.) The stuff that is good for you (like veggies and skim milk) don't need ads.
  • dwellsouth
    dwellsouth Posts: 158 Member
    I haven't read all the responses but wanted to say quickly, my 10 year old is on the "healthy" side and I'm working on the same thing you are. I am thinking about doing an account here for her and helping her learn about good foods and help her take control of her eating habits and her exercise habits and so forth. I never learned all that as a kid and I figure it's the best thing I can do for her is educate her for real. I have 3 girls and none of us can just eat whatever we want and I don't want them to end up obese and fighting it.
    Good luck and you are doing the RIGHT thing. :flowerforyou:
  • kaytedawg05
    kaytedawg05 Posts: 209
    well don't expect her to go "on a diet" to loose weight or even suggest it... in my experience w my now 12 yr old girl, my eating habits & things i have said rubbed off on her and she would say "i'm fasting today" but then she'd wait till no one was looking and pig out or sneak food into her room, among other "eating disorder" behaviors...

    One thing I did to turn it around has been to let her choose what she eats. Of course I only get 1 box of junk a month, like a 40 pc marshmallow treats, something like that.. so there's not even the option for junk most of the time.. we have enough opportunities to eat crazy yums when there's at least one family get together a week, and holidays... so saturdays are "lenient".

    Many times the biggest thing about it all is letting them know they and only they can truely control what they put in their mouths & how much they exercise & what they do... Eating disorders often start with a control issue & self esteem outlook... it became a fine line in my family... especially since myself & many other adults we know have eating issues & overweight.

    I my daughter is 5'6" and was 180lb.. she has lost 3 lb this month and really trimmed up, we started swimming every day. not everyone has that opportunity... but she has noticed the difference in herself physically and mentally & her attitude has improved...

    sitting & talking to her about the risks of eating disorders & what she was teaching herself in all the lying about what she eats & sneaking around opened her eyes... I've just been very honest with her & patient. and let her have control of her portions... within reason.. she does a lil binging still if I don't mention something to her & trying to set the good example as well. And offer inspiration like fitness magazines & what not... and the fact that we swim together... its encouraging

    Just the fact that you would ask for advice shows that you're on the right track. Knowledge is really all we need to get the ball rolling.
  • kaytedawg05
    kaytedawg05 Posts: 209
    lots of other good ideas in the thread also... :)
  • dwellsouth
    dwellsouth Posts: 158 Member
    My 10 year old is a hot cheeto addict too! LoL And my husband is her supplier! :ohwell:
  • Jeepinmom4
    Jeepinmom4 Posts: 298 Member
    I agree with pp she's 11 and it seems to me like she's Probably just got a diffrent body build...my 10 year old is still 68 lbs and she's 4'9 ish but her best friend who's the same age is probably close to 5'1 100-110 lbs...but she's in no way fat! I hate the thought that your daughter now thinks she fat :( it's sad and I hole you work it out...gl mama!
  • marber
    marber Posts: 118 Member
    I use a BMI calculator that is worked out for kids. If you Google NHS BMI you will find it. The NHS is our national health service in the UK.

    I put in the figures you gave and it said your daughter was a healthy weight.
  • jeffrodgers1
    jeffrodgers1 Posts: 991 Member
    I am all for teaching kids about healthy lifestyle and such...Think it is a great idea. However young girls are already very self conscious about their bodies... face it, things are changing all over at 11 that can be embarassing for a preteen. To have the school tell her she is obese? OMG! That is so completely insensitive I am shocked.

    Educate kids about healthy lifestyles and active living. Don't teach them to fixate on weight. It crushes an already shaky self esteem.

    When my daughter was 11, she had to worry about enough things... let alone an authority figure pointing things out.

    Just my 2 cents... but yeesh. Someone is dropping the ball here...and for what its worth 5'4" and 120 pounds is a decent height/weight. My 15 year old is 5'4" and 125 and has the boys chasing her all over town... and let me tell ya... she ain't obese either. :wink: (problem is she knows it too... :sigh: but that's another story.)
  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
    My baby girl is changing so fast before my eyes. Puberty is rearing its ugly head and she is liking boys.

    I am looking into the test at the school. Thank you all for your advice. Some great ideas and awesome encouragement! Sisser (as my 5 year old calls her) and I will do this together.
  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
    BTW the test is given by a company called Fitness Gram. Apparently all students in public schools in texas had to take this physical test.
  • dlaplume2
    dlaplume2 Posts: 1,658 Member
    I would ask them what scale they are using and I would discuss it with her doctor the next time you take her in. According to the BMI on this site, she is in the normal range.

    That is what I was thinking exactly. I am 5'4 and at 139 people thought I was anorexic. She is almost 20lbs lighter. There is a difference between fit and fat. IF she had no stamina and that is why they are saying she is obese, I would take issue with it. That is how young girls get eating disorders. Maybe she needs to improve her strength and endurance, but that is something that needs to be broched in a totally different way.
    I would talk to her and see what she thinks they were talking about and handle it from there. My daughter is a complete bookworm she loves nothing more than to sit and read a book. If your daughter is the same way then maybe she just needs to get up and do some activity like walking just to get exercise in. Not to lose weight, but to just be active.

    Best wishes to you and her. I hope she takes the suggestions in stride and doesn't worry too much about the number on the scale. Lots of girls just are athletic and feel like a clutz and uncordinated and it doens't help their cause when someone tells them they are overweight because they are sporty.

    Hope I explained that right. I'm not a really a writer, but I mean well.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    both bone and muscle mass does not reach their peak until somewhere in a person's 20's. So BMI that would be accurate for adults is not the same as bmi for children, and consequently, children who weigh less can actually have higher body fat percentages than adults of the same height, weight, sex, and activity level.

    You can't go by what YOU were at the same height and/or weight if you were an adult, that's completely different from a 11 year old girl who still has 7 to 10 years of growing and changing to do.
  • My 14 year old is the same height and same shoe size as your daughter and weighs 126 pounds. I would never tell her she is obese. She is very petite and looks great. My daughter is active and plays sports. I would say that you should talk to your doctor but your daughter is, in my opinion, just fine.


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  • dragonflydi
    dragonflydi Posts: 665 Member
    My daughter's school is doing these 'fitness tests' too (she will be 12 next month, is 5' 6", size 11 shoes and is overweight ... but consciously working on making healthy choices and exercising - she plays softball, is doing a 1 mile run in two weeks with me, etc) and among them is a BMI, % of body fat test. They used a machine ... which does not record data accurately if they have eaten anything (she has PE after lunch), drank anything, or done any sort of activity. She came home happy that in the follow up test she could now do 5 push ups (only 1 in the beginning), went up two full levels in some running test ... and VERY stressed out that her body fat % went UP a percent, when she has done so much better and lost 6 lbs since the tests they did as a 'starting' point.

    I pointed out to her that the machine was not accurate (fortunately, she has accompanied me to my gym a few times and she and I together talked with a trainer who also told her that the machine should only be used first thing in the morning when no food/drinks have been consumed and very little physical activity had taken place yet ... so she knew I wasn't just saying it to make her happy). Still frustrating ...
  • Losingitin2011
    Losingitin2011 Posts: 572 Member
    Wow. I really can't believe they would say that about a child who is obviously not obese.

    It is *never* too early to start teaching healthy eating habits. They have very little to do with diets, since diets often specifically restrict certain food types.

    I was chunky until I was about 14, then I hit a huge growth spurt and became a stick figure. Don't worry about it too much, just teach her healthy choices so she doesn't fall into the pit of crap food that so many of us have.

    Kudos to you for being such a great mom!
  • breezymom81
    breezymom81 Posts: 499 Member
    You might also mention to the PE teacher that BMI is not accurate for anyone really! It is over 200 years old and the inventor never meant for it to used for individuals! It is meant for populations. If it bothers her have her read this info:

    http://www.freefitguy.com/2011/04/18/measuring-health-why-you-should-throw-out-your-scale-and-ignore-bmi/
  • bcpie
    bcpie Posts: 89
    I would just like to say kudos to you for taking responsibility for you daughter's health. That is truly wonderful. My own mother did not do that until I was veerryy overweight, and she was very harsh and not very helpful. It's a touchy thing to try and help a daughter, so best of luck. :)
  • whatupskinnyjeans
    whatupskinnyjeans Posts: 229 Member
    Seriously? i dont know what tests they did are but that is not obese! you can model healthy eating and provide nutritious foods. She will eventuallly learn from your example. make fruits and veggies appetizing make healthy things that taste good, and open her mind to tasting new kinds of foods. you said she is active so encourage that. but at 120 lbs she should not look anywhere near obese. maybe there was a mixup in the test results. and whatever u do- dont tell her shes obese... criticize her looks or make fun of "baby fat". i know someone who struggles with an eating disorder due to this kind of thing... just a though though maybe the just checked her weight without factoring the height? because it sounds like she is tall for her age. the avrege 11 year old weighs abt 85-95 lbs. so according to that she would appear obese on the age chart
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