Should i start doing abs exercises

satisatisati
satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
edited November 14 in Fitness and Exercise
I am currently doing weight loss. I have already lost around 8 kg. Have another 8 more kgs to loose. I can see some very good definition in my upper body around chest area.
I have been doing weight training and cardio workout since last 3 months.
Should i start adding abs exercises in my routine now? or should I continue to loose weight and once I achieve my goal weight only then i start doing abs workout.
Suggestions needed.
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  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    does your weight lifting regimen include compound movements?

    I only do "abs" once a week and that consists of weighted decline sit-ups, side bends, russian twists, etc….

    So yes, you should train your core area once a week, but you don't need to every day..IMO

    this assumes that your lifting regimen already has compound movements built into it like squats, deadlifts, etc...
  • SatiaRenee
    SatiaRenee Posts: 798 Member
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    becuae if he is doing compound movements he is already working them …and spending 20 minutes a day on ABs is a waste of time - IMO - when losing body fat is what is going to show your "abs"

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    He's doing strong lifts last I heard which is enough I reckon
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    He's doing strong lifts last I heard which is enough I reckon
    Yes you are right @rabbitjb Its my second month now. Should I continue that along with my cardio workouts.
    Can you see any improvement in my upper body. I feel good after one month of strong lifting. But my lower body still looks the same.

  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    does your weight lifting regimen include compound movements?
    Yes I do two body parts each day. Chest/back Shoulder/biceps Squads/triceps
    and 30 mins of cardio everyday. 100+ pushups everyday.

    I only do "abs" once a week and that consists of weighted decline sit-ups, side bends, russian twists, etc….

    So yes, you should train your core area once a week, but you don't need to every day..IMO
    So according to you I should add one complete day for abs? right.

    this assumes that your lifting regimen already has compound movements built into it like squats, deadlifts, etc...

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    He's doing strong lifts last I heard which is enough I reckon
    Yes you are right @rabbitjb Its my second month now. Should I continue that along with my cardio workouts.
    Can you see any improvement in my upper body. I feel good after one month of strong lifting. But my lower body still looks the same.

    just keep lifting, eating in a deficit, and mixing in cardio …

    you really need to lose body fat for your stomach to start to "look better" and that takes time because you cannot spot reduce…

    patience is key ..

    but it would not hurt to one core session a week of say 30 minutes….but I would not do more than that….
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I have read somewhere that its of no use working on your abs if there is a lot of body fat on top of it. That's the reason I am focusing more on burning calories by doing cardio exercices and lifting weights.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I have read somewhere that its of no use working on your abs if there is a lot of body fat on top of it. That's the reason I am focusing more on burning calories by doing cardio exercices and lifting weights.

    that is correct…

    but one session a week won't hurt …and making your core area stronger will assist with form on compound movements….
  • christopherlee147
    christopherlee147 Posts: 22 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I have read somewhere that its of no use working on your abs if there is a lot of body fat on top of it. That's the reason I am focusing more on burning calories by doing cardio exercices and lifting weights.


    You're sort of right. If you're looking for a "six-pack" you can do all the ab/core workouts you want, but if you have a layer of fat hiding those abs, you'll never see them. However, you do want to work out your abs so you'll really have something to show when the fat is gone. As mentioned above, you can obtain this as a part of your regular strong lifts routine, or add in an extra 30mins one day a week.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I have read somewhere that its of no use working on your abs if there is a lot of body fat on top of it. That's the reason I am focusing more on burning calories by doing cardio exercices and lifting weights.

    What do you mean "no use"?
    Strength or appearance?
    Certainly going to help your abs/core strength which may also benefit the rest of your routine.

    If you want to add accessory exercises into your routine then abs/core work is often a good choice (depending on your goals and current strengths/weaknesses).
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    He's doing strong lifts last I heard which is enough I reckon
    Yes you are right @rabbitjb Its my second month now. Should I continue that along with my cardio workouts.
    Can you see any improvement in my upper body. I feel good after one month of strong lifting. But my lower body still looks the same.

    just keep lifting, eating in a deficit, and mixing in cardio …
    Thanks i will follow your advise.

    you really need to lose body fat for your stomach to start to "look better" and that takes time because you cannot spot reduce…
    I have already lost two inches from my waist line. you can see my old picture below. I have not done any abs exercise in last three months. Only cardio and weight training (2 hours each day).

    9ofagtw32979.jpg


    patience is key ..

    but it would not hurt to one core session a week of say 30 minutes….but I would not do more than that….
    Will follow your suggetion.
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I have read somewhere that its of no use working on your abs if there is a lot of body fat on top of it. That's the reason I am focusing more on burning calories by doing cardio exercices and lifting weights.

    What do you mean "no use"?
    Strength or appearance?
    Both according to me. I can do a lot of abs exercises like leg raises, crunches but I have not got any results with that in past not even in appearance.
    I have lost 2 inches with cardio and weight training.

    Certainly going to help your abs/core strength which may also benefit the rest of your routine.
    Yes i will surely add abs workout in my routine as my waist seems better than before now.

    If you want to add accessory exercises into your routine then abs/core work is often a good choice (depending on your goals and current strengths/weaknesses).

  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I have read somewhere that its of no use working on your abs if there is a lot of body fat on top of it. That's the reason I am focusing more on burning calories by doing cardio exercices and lifting weights.


    You're sort of right. If you're looking for a "six-pack" you can do all the ab/core workouts you want, but if you have a layer of fat hiding those abs, you'll never see them. However, you do want to work out your abs so you'll really have something to show when the fat is gone. As mentioned above, you can obtain this as a part of your regular strong lifts routine, or add in an extra 30mins one day a week.

    Thanks for commenting. Yes six-pack is my goal. I will surely add ab workout in my routine.
  • Spocky
    Spocky Posts: 62 Member
    While I am watching Netflix from bed I do about 50 half-sit-ups every day. Just spend 5 minutes with training your abs every day, don't wait until you are skinnier.
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    Spocky wrote: »
    While I am watching Netflix from bed I do about 50 half-sit-ups every day. Just spend 5 minutes with training your abs every day, don't wait until you are skinnier.

    Thanks. I will also try that :)
  • sycokid666
    sycokid666 Posts: 23 Member
    In my opinion I would say yes . Or better yet build your whole core don't just concentrate on just the abs but that's just me ..
  • TCO76
    TCO76 Posts: 242 Member
    We all have abs underneath the flab. Getting down to a low bodyfat will make them appear. You won't gain any muscle to that area while lifting in a deficit. Strengthening them when you feel, will not hinder you but only help you as you add to the bar. I have never heard anyone EVER, complain that they over trained their core. It is however one of the most hated areas to focus on by many. Do some planks at night while watching tv.
    Congrats on the progress! Keep It going.
  • sgthaggard
    sgthaggard Posts: 581 Member
    If you enjoy ab exercises, knock yourself out. Personally, they bore the crap out of me so I'm happy with the idea that my abs are getting a workout any time I do compound lifts. Once you lose the last bit of fat around your middle, your abs will make an appearance. Unfortunately, if you're like me, your middle might be the last place you will lose the fat. Patience, and keep at it.
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    Being honest, you will need to lose a lot more than 8kg to get abs, as you look about 20%+ body fat at the moment.

    I'd advise continuing weight loss whilst using a beginner's compound lifts program.

    Thanks for the advise. Yes I am a beginner to weight lifting. I will continue the weight loss journey. My body fat is over 22%.
    The reason i thought of doing ab workout is because my upper body started to look little better than before because that has been regularly utilized doing chest, back, pushups and chinups.. When it comes to lower part the only thing I am doing is lot of running, cycling ,burphee, elliptical trainer, treadmill etc.
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    TCO76 wrote: »
    We all have abs underneath the flab. Getting down to a low bodyfat will make them appear. You won't gain any muscle to that area while lifting in a deficit. Strengthening them when you feel, will not hinder you but only help you as you add to the bar. I have never heard anyone EVER, complain that they over trained their core. It is however one of the most hated areas to focus on by many. Do some planks at night while watching tv.
    Congrats on the progress! Keep It going.

    Thank you so much for your motivation! Appreciate it.
    I will surely do planks while watching TV as I am always in front of TV at night :smile:

  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    sgthaggard wrote: »
    If you enjoy ab exercises, knock yourself out. Personally, they bore the crap out of me so I'm happy with the idea that my abs are getting a workout any time I do compound lifts. Once you lose the last bit of fat around your middle, your abs will make an appearance. Unfortunately, if you're like me, your middle might be the last place you will lose the fat. Patience, and keep at it.

    I like doing abs exercises. It is just that I have a lot of body fat currently in my body. So I am focused more on loosing my body weight than working on my abs.
  • dwolfe1985
    dwolfe1985 Posts: 100 Member
    SatiaRenee wrote: »
    Why wouldn't you do abs? If you're working every other muscle in your body, does it make sense to say, "Gee, I did my back, chest and arms today. Did lower body hard yesterday. Yep. Not gonna work the abs. Ever." I say, if it's a part of your body, work it. If not, leave it alone.

    I routinely leave abs and arms alone as im not a great fan of training them directly. Im not a bodybuilder type though so ....
  • rileyes
    rileyes Posts: 1,406 Member
    edited March 2015
    I find the "RKC Plank" and side planks really help define my abs, glutes and quads. But also just standing tall everyday, all day, sucking in your gut helps. "Belly button to the spine. String through the head."

    A strong core can create better form. A better form can create a stronger core.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    This thread brings up so many common points and views that I just don't understand at all.
    Why do so many people wait to strength train or do core work while losing weight?
    Get started on strength from the start, you will be that much farther ahead when the weight is off
    Why is direct core work discouraged with the mantra just lift heavy compound exercises?
    Direct core work is only going to help you in every other aspect of your lifting.
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    rileyes wrote: »
    I find the "RKC Plank" and side planks really help define my abs, glutes and quads. But also just standing tall everyday, all day, sucking in your gut helps. "Belly button to the spine. String through the head."

    A strong core can create better form. A better form can create a stronger core.

    Thanks for the suggestion!

  • runner475
    runner475 Posts: 1,236 Member
    I do core exercise everyday. I pick one and I do that for not more than 5 minutes. I don't usually repeat the exercise that particular week. Most time it's different.

    Couple of things going on with me
    1) I enjoy and love it. That's important. Do it everyday if you gonna enjoy it.
    2) I don't compound lift everyday. Just about enough to assist my main sport.
    3) My core is the most important muscle group that helps in my running. I gotta keep it strong hence I train it everyday.

    Everything nails down to your goal, your sport and what you enjoy doing.
  • satisatisati
    satisatisati Posts: 260 Member
    runner475 wrote: »
    I do core exercise everyday. I pick one and I do that for not more than 5 minutes. I don't usually repeat the exercise that particular week. Most time it's different.

    Couple of things going on with me
    1) I enjoy and love it. That's important. Do it everyday if you gonna enjoy it.
    2) I don't compound lift everyday. Just about enough to assist my main sport.
    3) My core is the most important muscle group that helps in my running. I gotta keep it strong hence I train it everyday.

    Everything nails down to your goal, your sport and what you enjoy doing.

    Do you mean 50 mins or 5 mins?
  • kristen_bures
    kristen_bures Posts: 47 Member
    Core is the most important part of your body. You should always be doing ab workouts. Whenever I get on an off time of my exercise routine I still do abs.
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