Extra session with trainer or bottle of wine....
takumar
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Both cost $50 but Mr. BMI 39 chooses the wine. Instead of a weekly session with his personal trainer I suggested he double up- twice a week for just a month.
My friend said not in the budget; yet recently asked me to pick up several bottles of a notable wine on sale. He replied that the wine was too good a deal to pass up, more tangible and more immediate than workouts. Once a week with the trainer was good enough as he waddled out of the restaurant.
I just managed a wry smile.
My friend said not in the budget; yet recently asked me to pick up several bottles of a notable wine on sale. He replied that the wine was too good a deal to pass up, more tangible and more immediate than workouts. Once a week with the trainer was good enough as he waddled out of the restaurant.
I just managed a wry smile.
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A trainer is not going to create weight loss. Sure, the trainer can help him, but he needs to want it and work at it. If he wants to drink wine in moderation, then so what? Wine is delicious.0
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Wow, I am glad I don't have such a judgy friend......0
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Who needs enemies with a friend like you, amirite?0
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Um.0
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You must be fun at parties.0
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OP must be the life of the party ….0
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Personally, outside of some pretty specific training goals, I'd say more than one session per week with a trainer is a waste of $$$. I work with a coach and one of the first things he told me was that controlling my weight was all on me...he could give nutritional advice and obviously work me out, but he couldn't make me lose weight.
Losing weight is largely a matter of dietary intake, not working with a trainer or not. I train my *kitten* off and I've lost weight, maintained weight, and done a bulk cycle...the difference between those three objectives wasn't working with my coach or any exercise I was doing...it was my diet overall.
I would also add that I drink wine pretty regularly...I like wine.0 -
That's pretty much a no-brainer.
#teamwine0 -
I'm with OP on this one. Life is about choices, this one seems pretty clear cut.
1: consume same, exercise more (4 x sessions @ ~500 calories ea, 2,000 calories lost)
2: consume more, exercise same (1 x bottle @ 605 calories ea, 600 calories gained)
The reason OP's friend got to BMI 39 was always going option 2.0 -
I assume the friend complains about wanting to lose weight but doesn't take the appropriate actions?
I have a facebook friend that whines and complains about not losing weight, yet she hates to work out and drinks a bottle or more of wine every day. Everyone has to make their own decisions, just don't complain the weight isn't coming off when you refuse to make any concessions.0 -
rrowdiness wrote: »I'm with OP on this one. Life is about choices, this one seems pretty clear cut.
1: consume same, exercise more (4 x sessions @ ~500 calories ea, 2,000 calories lost)
2: consume more, exercise same (1 x bottle @ 605 calories ea, 600 calories gained)
The reason OP's friend got to BMI 39 was always going option 2.
Clearly those are the only options. OP's friend is doomed.
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I'd have picked the vino as well. Ill cut other things thanks.0
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Here’s the thing. The OP is right, he’s just addressing the wrong party. A good friend will kick you in the butt when you need it.
I’m guessing this same friend complains about not getting good service from his trainer. He says he’s eating well, good on his macros, has his diet dialed in. Yet, not seeing results, so it must be someone else’s fault.
We all have a friend/family member/coworker like this. So, OP, are you saying the to them?0 -
Wine or workout?
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Once a week with the trainer was good enough as he waddled out of the restaurant.
This line just destroyed all credibility IMO. I would hate to think that my friends are making fun of my weight behind my back.
He has a trainer once a week, which is presumably more than he had when he got up to that BMI. The OP never said that he complained about not losing weight, just that he has decided where his friend should spend his money.0 -
ThickMcRunFast wrote: »That's pretty much a no-brainer.
#teamwine
Agreed. I would Always pick the wine. All trainers are a waste of time and money. And they're terrible people too. They don't deserve the money and should all starve. But wine, however, will always be there for me. Wine won't let me down. Wine deserves that sweet sweet money.
#UpWithWine
#DownWithTrainers
#UpWithDramaFriends
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ThickMcRunFast wrote: »That's pretty much a no-brainer.
#teamwine
Agreed. I would Always pick the wine. All trainers are a waste of time and money. And they're terrible people too. They don't deserve the money and should all starve. But wine, however, will always be there for me. Wine won't let me down. Wine deserves that sweet sweet money.
#UpWithWine
#DownWithTrainers
#UpWithDramaFriends
I mean...have you ever tried to talk to a trainer? I need a glass of wine just thinking about it.0 -
I vote both0
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ThickMcRunFast wrote: »That's pretty much a no-brainer.
#teamwine
Agreed. I would Always pick the wine. All trainers are a waste of time and money. And they're terrible people too. They don't deserve the money and should all starve. But wine, however, will always be there for me. Wine won't let me down. Wine deserves that sweet sweet money.
#UpWithWine
#DownWithTrainers
#UpWithDramaFriends
Personal Training, not even once.0 -
ThickMcRunFast wrote: »ThickMcRunFast wrote: »That's pretty much a no-brainer.
#teamwine
Agreed. I would Always pick the wine. All trainers are a waste of time and money. And they're terrible people too. They don't deserve the money and should all starve. But wine, however, will always be there for me. Wine won't let me down. Wine deserves that sweet sweet money.
#UpWithWine
#DownWithTrainers
#UpWithDramaFriends
I mean...have you ever tried to talk to a trainer? I need a glass of wine just thinking about it.
It's the only way0 -
OP, just stop calling yourself a friend to that person.0
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ThickMcRunFast wrote: »That's pretty much a no-brainer.
#teamwine
Agreed. I would Always pick the wine. All trainers are a waste of time and money. And they're terrible people too. They don't deserve the money and should all starve. But wine, however, will always be there for me. Wine won't let me down. Wine deserves that sweet sweet money.
#UpWithWine
#DownWithTrainers
#UpWithDramaFriends
Beautiful words you speak. I would totally let you be my trainer.0 -
A Story as told by a terrible friend. Next time just get a table for one instead of taking Mr. BMI along, Mr. Judgy McJudgerton.0
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With friends like that, who needs friends.0
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Wait, he already has a trainer and doubling up is better than wine?
Is this the new math?
I suck at the new math.
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To the few that responded to the issue: choices and outcomes, You Got It!
To those who think I should be left on a deserted island, thank you too.
I mean it. Always good to know the make-up and mindset of any forum you’re in.
OK, more background:
We’ve been friends for over 35 years. I mention his BMI and difficulty walking so that readers can realize the condition he’s in. The trainer is mainly for knee strengthening because doctors say it’s too early for knee replacement. He is on a self-maintaning diet, cholesterol and BP medication, uses a CPAP for sleep. Am I being too judgmental again?? In spite of some comments I think true friends can and should offer critical advice when needed.
This began at the table when he said he picked a few more pounds. I suggested the trainer just as a bit of helpful advice. This posting was more out of my frustration when he said he couldn’t afford it. The wine is irrelevant, could have been a $50 shirt instead. Regardless of excuses he is still my friend and will continue to wish him well. Just reminding him, his health is in his hands.
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Except instead of talking to him- you're making a federal case on a public forum- it's one think to just put a rant/vent up on your wall- it's saying an entirely other thing to make an ENTIRE POST ON IT.
I also think I'd rather spend 50$ on wine than a trainer.
But I'm a 5$ a bottle wine kind of person- so I guess I'd REALLY rather have the 10 bottles of wine.0 -
To the few that responded to the issue: choices and outcomes, You Got It!
To those who think I should be left on a deserted island, thank you too.
I mean it. Always good to know the make-up and mindset of any forum you’re in.
OK, more background:
We’ve been friends for over 35 years. I mention his BMI and difficulty walking so that readers can realize the condition he’s in. The trainer is mainly for knee strengthening because doctors say it’s too early for knee replacement. He is on a self-maintaning diet, cholesterol and BP medication, uses a CPAP for sleep. Am I being too judgmental again?? In spite of some comments I think true friends can and should offer critical advice when needed.
This began at the table when he said he picked a few more pounds. I suggested the trainer just as a bit of helpful advice. This posting was more out of my frustration when he said he couldn’t afford it. The wine is irrelevant, could have been a $50 shirt instead. Regardless of excuses he is still my friend and will continue to wish him well. Just reminding him, his health is in his hands.
There are ways to get your point across without being condescending. Your first post was mean-spirited in its delivery (and really the fact that it exists at all). How is this helping your friend again?
I would also rather spend $50 on wine than a personal trainer. An extra session a week with a trainer isn't going to help your friend. For one, you can't out exercise a bad diet and, two, fitness requires more than two days a week at the gym.0 -
Except instead of talking to him- you're making a federal case on a public forum- it's one think to just put a rant/vent up on your wall- it's saying an entirely other thing to make an ENTIRE POST ON IT.
I also think I'd rather spend 50$ on wine than a trainer.
But I'm a 5$ a bottle wine kind of person- so I guess I'd REALLY rather have the 10 bottles of wine.
I'd recommend at least going to $10--for that, you can get some tasty Spanish reds, and interesting whites.
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[To the few that responded to the issue: choices and outcomes, You Got It!
To those who think I should be left on a deserted island, thank you too.
I mean it. Always good to know the make-up and mindset of any forum you’re in.
OK, more background:
We’ve been friends for over 35 years. I mention his BMI and difficulty walking so that readers can realize the condition he’s in. The trainer is mainly for knee strengthening because doctors say it’s too early for knee replacement. He is on a self-maintaning diet, cholesterol and BP medication, uses a CPAP for sleep. Am I being too judgmental again?? In spite of some comments I think true friends can and should offer critical advice when needed.
This began at the table when he said he picked a few more pounds. I suggested the trainer just as a bit of helpful advice. This posting was more out of my frustration when he said he couldn’t afford it. The wine is irrelevant, could have been a $50 shirt instead. Regardless of excuses he is still my friend and will continue to wish him well. Just reminding him, his health is in his hands.
I'm all about choices but I don't get how it is one or the other here. Does choosing the wine mean he can't workout at all? Can he not do the exercises the trainer gave him on his own?
You didn't offer critical advice. You came to a forum and bashed your friend's choice.0
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