coconut oil in rice story

candythorns
candythorns Posts: 246 Member
edited November 15 in Health and Weight Loss
http://www.popsugar.com/fitness/How-Make-Healthier-Rice-37167924

Would a food scale be able to identify the cals in this? Thoughts?
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  • Jayceca
    Jayceca Posts: 16 Member
    Well my food scale just weighs the food, not calculate calories.
  • flumi_f
    flumi_f Posts: 1,888 Member
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Stop overthinking things, and reading silly articles about 'healthier rice'. Weigh the rice dry, and then weigh the coconut oil. Cook the rice, add the coconut oil. Eat. There you go. Done.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.
  • candythorns
    candythorns Posts: 246 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Stop overthinking things, and reading silly articles about 'healthier rice'. Weigh the rice dry, and then weigh the coconut oil. Cook the rice, add the coconut oil. Eat. There you go. Done.
    Simmer yourself, no one is forcing YOU to read it but I'm learning about food and when this article popped up in my feed I thought it was interesting which really isn't for you to determine. You are more than welcome to opt out of this conversation.
    P.s. I don't weigh anything, I don't even own a food scale, so my inquisition is apt
  • candythorns
    candythorns Posts: 246 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something
  • chriscolh
    chriscolh Posts: 127 Member
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Stop overthinking things, and reading silly articles about 'healthier rice'. Weigh the rice dry, and then weigh the coconut oil. Cook the rice, add the coconut oil. Eat. There you go. Done.
    Simmer yourself, no one is forcing YOU to read it but I'm learning about food and when this article popped up in my feed I thought it was interesting which really isn't for you to determine. You are more than welcome to opt out of this conversation.
    P.s. I don't weigh anything, I don't even own a food scale, so my inquisition is apt

    this is the problem. You're reading things about 'healthier' rice, and trying to figure out how to lower calories but you don't own a food scale? If you want to lose weight and such, you need to weigh your solid foods. You have no idea how many calories you are consuming in a day if you aren't weighing everything you are eating. You can be literally hundreds of calories off if you aren't weighing.
  • candythorns
    candythorns Posts: 246 Member
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
    Thanks for the input. I don't even add anything to my rice, but hot sauce, but will try this since I've been trying to fit coconut oil more into my diet.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    And no, I'm not 'hangry'. I'm one of those people who has been on these forums for years, trying to help people who are on the wrong track. I've seen all of these silly comments before. There is a lot of misinformation being handed out.
  • candythorns
    candythorns Posts: 246 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Stop overthinking things, and reading silly articles about 'healthier rice'. Weigh the rice dry, and then weigh the coconut oil. Cook the rice, add the coconut oil. Eat. There you go. Done.
    Simmer yourself, no one is forcing YOU to read it but I'm learning about food and when this article popped up in my feed I thought it was interesting which really isn't for you to determine. You are more than welcome to opt out of this conversation.
    P.s. I don't weigh anything, I don't even own a food scale, so my inquisition is apt

    this is the problem. You're reading things about 'healthier' rice, and trying to figure out how to lower calories but you don't own a food scale? If you want to lose weight and such, you need to weigh your solid foods. You have no idea how many calories you are consuming in a day if you aren't weighing everything you are eating. You can be literally hundreds of calories off if you aren't weighing.

    That is really helpful, thanks....I will look into this further
  • chriskangell
    chriskangell Posts: 29 Member
    Mccindy72 is spot on with everything she's said.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    edited March 2015
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    Actually, she is one of those knowledgeable people who have done this for quite some time and has been very helpful. And she is right. The article itself is a bit of a joke as it doesn't consider a diet in total context, nor does it even prove anything scientifically, like the title suggest.

    You can add coconut oil to rice to add some additional fats and/or nutrients but it will also add calories. But overall, you can have either white rice or brown rice in an overall good diet.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Mccindy72 is spot on with everything she's said.

    Why thank you. :blush:
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
    Thanks for the input. I don't even add anything to my rice, but hot sauce, but will try this since I've been trying to fit coconut oil more into my diet.

    Why are you trying to add coconut oil? Are you under the impression that it's superior in some way or just like to cook with it?
  • mccindy72 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    And no, I'm not 'hangry'. I'm one of those people who has been on these forums for years, trying to help people who are on the wrong track. I've seen all of these silly comments before. There is a lot of misinformation being handed out.

    Then educate dont undermind peoples curiosity and willingness to learn and ask questions about what they are putting in there bodies. Be helpful not hurtful :)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    cbellebaby wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    And no, I'm not 'hangry'. I'm one of those people who has been on these forums for years, trying to help people who are on the wrong track. I've seen all of these silly comments before. There is a lot of misinformation being handed out.

    Then educate dont undermind peoples curiosity and willingness to learn and ask questions about what they are putting in there bodies. Be helpful not hurtful :)

    She has been helpful from the original post and on.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    edited March 2015
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
    Thanks for the input. I don't even add anything to my rice, but hot sauce, but will try this since I've been trying to fit coconut oil more into my diet.

    Why? Only reason I started using coconut oil was because I was using it for skincare and decided to try it for cooking. I only use it if I need something with minimal/no flavour (some CO doesn't have fragrance, especially when it's meant specifically for cooking) or want something sweet.

    Nothing inherently special or magic about coconut oil.

    ETA I also still use olive oil more than coconut oil.
  • psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    Actually, she is one of those knowledgeable people who have done this for quite some time and has been very helpful. And she is right. The article itself is a bit of a joke as it doesn't consider a diet in total context, nor does it even prove anything scientifically, like the title suggest.

    You can add coconut oil to rice to add some additional fats and/or nutrients but it will also add calories. But overall, you can have either white rice or brown rice in an overall good diet.

    Like i said earlier be helpful. she is trying to learn no need to gang up on her.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    edited March 2015
    cbellebaby wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    Actually, she is one of those knowledgeable people who have done this for quite some time and has been very helpful. And she is right. The article itself is a bit of a joke as it doesn't consider a diet in total context, nor does it even prove anything scientifically, like the title suggest.

    You can add coconut oil to rice to add some additional fats and/or nutrients but it will also add calories. But overall, you can have either white rice or brown rice in an overall good diet.

    Like i said earlier be helpful. she is trying to learn no need to gang up on her.

    Well, you're replying to a forum moderator so pretty sure that wasn't an attempt to "gang up" on the OP, since that would be violating the guidelines.

    We cannot hold everyone's hand and speak to them patronizingly as we would the elderly or children. Nothing anyone has said was hurtful.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    cbellebaby wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    Actually, she is one of those knowledgeable people who have done this for quite some time and has been very helpful. And she is right. The article itself is a bit of a joke as it doesn't consider a diet in total context, nor does it even prove anything scientifically, like the title suggest.

    You can add coconut oil to rice to add some additional fats and/or nutrients but it will also add calories. But overall, you can have either white rice or brown rice in an overall good diet.

    Like i said earlier be helpful. she is trying to learn no need to gang up on her.

    We aren't ganging up on her. We are correcting her misinformation based on a silly article. And just because we don't agree doesn't mean we aren't being helpful. In fact, the stuff that isn't helpful in this thread are your post suggesting we need to be nice. Many of us have been doing this for years and consistently help people over and over.
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    edited March 2015
    Interesting article, but despite the science-y words in it (e.g. glycogen) I find that hard to believe. Plus, I’d rather overestimate calories than underestimate them.

    Honestly, I’d rather invest my time in weighing your foods and logging everything. My food scale cost something like $15 and it’s my favourite thing in my kitchen. I eat anything (including white rice): as long as it’s within my calorie targets for the day, it’s not worth stressing over in my opinion.

    I highly recommend you try the weighing foods route and worry less about how to make things healthier via weird methods like that one. Eating less/more balanced usually does the trick just fine. Good luck with everything :smile:

    P.S. @mccindy72‌ Love the top you’re wearing in your profile pic! So pretty.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    edited March 2015
    ana3067 wrote: »
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
    Thanks for the input. I don't even add anything to my rice, but hot sauce, but will try this since I've been trying to fit coconut oil more into my diet.

    Why? Only reason I started using coconut oil was because I was using it for skincare and decided to try it for cooking. I only use it if I need something with minimal/no flavour (some CO doesn't have fragrance, especially when it's meant specifically for cooking) or want something sweet.

    Nothing inherently special or magic about coconut oil.

    ETA I also still use olive oil more than coconut oil.

    I personally use olive oil too. It would be interesting to see if there is a huge difference in nutrients. I know coconut water is beneficial in the fact it has electrolytes in it.

    One side note, most of the articles I have read would suggest that olive oil has more nutrients.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
    Thanks for the input. I don't even add anything to my rice, but hot sauce, but will try this since I've been trying to fit coconut oil more into my diet.

    Why? Only reason I started using coconut oil was because I was using it for skincare and decided to try it for cooking. I only use it if I need something with minimal/no flavour (some CO doesn't have fragrance, especially when it's meant specifically for cooking) or want something sweet.

    Nothing inherently special or magic about coconut oil.

    ETA I also still use olive oil more than coconut oil.

    This is a good point - the olive vs coconut oil. Olive oil being a monounsaturated fat, and coconut oil being a saturated fat. Not that saturated fats are 'bad', as the current belief seems to be, but for those trying to lower or watch cholesterol levels, saturated fats need to be limited. Olive oil is definitely a better choice in that situation.
  • psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    Actually, she is one of those knowledgeable people who have done this for quite some time and has been very helpful. And she is right. The article itself is a bit of a joke as it doesn't consider a diet in total context, nor does it even prove anything scientifically, like the title suggest.

    You can add coconut oil to rice to add some additional fats and/or nutrients but it will also add calories. But overall, you can have either white rice or brown rice in an overall good diet.

    Like i said earlier be helpful. she is trying to learn no need to gang up on her.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Emilia777 wrote: »
    Interesting article, but despite the science-y words in it (e.g. glycogen) I find that hard to believe. Plus, I’d rather overestimate calories than underestimate them.

    Honestly, I’d rather invest my time in weighing your foods and logging everything. My food scale cost something like $15 and it’s my favourite thing in my kitchen. I eat anything (including white rice): as long as it’s within my calorie targets for the day, it’s not worth stressing over in my opinion.

    I highly recommend you try the weighing foods route and worry less about how to make things healthier via weird methods like that one. Eating less/more balanced usually does the trick just fine. Good luck with everything :smile:

    P.S. @mccindy72‌ Love the top you’re wearing in your profile pic! So pretty.
    Thank you, Emilia. It's actually a dress. :wink:
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    cbellebaby wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    You're one of those hangry ppl....go eat something

    Actually, she is one of those knowledgeable people who have done this for quite some time and has been very helpful. And she is right. The article itself is a bit of a joke as it doesn't consider a diet in total context, nor does it even prove anything scientifically, like the title suggest.

    You can add coconut oil to rice to add some additional fats and/or nutrients but it will also add calories. But overall, you can have either white rice or brown rice in an overall good diet.

    Like i said earlier be helpful. she is trying to learn no need to gang up on her.

    Right now, you are the only one being not helpful. And if you continue this path, I will let you know you will be violating the below rule:

    2. No Hi-Jacking, Trolling, or Flame-baiting

    Please stay on-topic in an existing thread, and post new threads in the appropriate forum. Taking a thread off-topic is considered hi-jacking. Please either contribute politely and constructively to a topic, or move on without posting. This includes posts that encourage the drama in a topic to escalate, or posts intended to incite an uproar from the community.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!
    Thanks for the input. I don't even add anything to my rice, but hot sauce, but will try this since I've been trying to fit coconut oil more into my diet.

    Why? Only reason I started using coconut oil was because I was using it for skincare and decided to try it for cooking. I only use it if I need something with minimal/no flavour (some CO doesn't have fragrance, especially when it's meant specifically for cooking) or want something sweet.

    Nothing inherently special or magic about coconut oil.

    ETA I also still use olive oil more than coconut oil.

    I personally use olive oil too. It would be interesting to see if there is a huge difference in nutrients. I know coconut water is beneficial in the fact it has electrolytes in it.

    One side note, most of the articles I have read would suggest that olive oil has more nutrients.

    I don't even really care which has more nutrients, since I'm probably consuming no more than a few tbsp per WEEK of oil total. Mostly just use it for my omelets, which only needs half a tsp, so if I made an omelet daily (which i don't always do) then that's only a bit more than a tbsp for the entire week! Not worth it to be concerned with nutrients.
  • candythorns
    candythorns Posts: 246 Member
    edited March 2015
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    flumi_f wrote: »
    Don't know about the oil, but I have heard the chilling and reheating of rice and pasta increases the amount of resistant starches. You'd have to count the cals of the oil in that recipe.....

    Good lord.

    Just an fyi to all the above posts, saying "good lord" to someone's innocent reply is in no way helpful ;)

    Thank you for your thoughts on the topic though, I was just curious since I know food has properties that can change under circumstances

    In regards to the coconut oil, I'm trying to eat more of it because I know how good it is for skin when applied topically, and I'm a firm believer of "you are hat you eat"

  • occultllama
    occultllama Posts: 31 Member
    chriscolh wrote: »
    I've read 2 stories on this the past few days. They say that it reduces the calories in the rice, but no one ever mentions about the added calories from adding the coconut oil to it. Both articles start of with "hoping to see up to 60% reduction in calories," but in the lab, they are only reducing calories by 10-12%. I'm not going to count on this method of cooking rice to help me lose weight right now. However, I'm wondering if it changes the taste at all. I may have to experiment on my own... :-)
    Good luck!

    They are currently only doing the experiments with what they believe is the more difficult types of grains of rice, they are guessing they can get better results with different grains.
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