The Truth About Calories.

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  • donjtomasco
    donjtomasco Posts: 790 Member
    M2M, you are sounding quite sensitive tonight. Are you angry? And please don't call me Surely.

    Mama, where are your manners tonight?
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    M2M, you are sounding quite sensitive tonight. Are you angry? And please don't call me Surely.

    Mama, where are your manners tonight?

    is it a full moon?? I'm in a mighty grumpy mood today! :confounded:

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  • donjtomasco
    donjtomasco Posts: 790 Member
    Lol.
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
    The truth is...

    ...calories taste good.

    At least if they're encased in chocolate.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who likes grocery shopping while hungry? I wind up with the best treats that way to last me months!

    I'm a super focused shopper almost anywhere but a book store or record shop. I go in and go out when Christmas shopping and am much more that way when grocery shopping. I don't want to be wandering around deciding random things look good, but to buy the few things I came for, chip chop!
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who likes grocery shopping while hungry? I wind up with the best treats that way to last me months!

    I'm a super focused shopper almost anywhere but a book store or record shop. I go in and go out when Christmas shopping and am much more that way when grocery shopping. I don't want to be wandering around deciding random things look good, but to buy the few things I came for, chip chop!

    I wander. I also wander around in general stores too... I'll riffle through the same section 5 times just in case I missed something cute LOL.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    edited March 2015
    ana3067 wrote: »
    I see some thread cleanup had taken place, ugh.

    And I could gladly clean up some more if you prefer? ;)


    Or should I just concentrate on the attacks and other direct violations?

  • mynameisoliverqueen
    mynameisoliverqueen Posts: 63 Member
    The problem is refined SUGARS! Cut the sugars right down, and you will use more body fat.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Does anyone even really get offered cheesecake every day? I certainly don't. What is this magical fairy world where cheesecake is constantly before you?

    apparently the same world where you get unlimited oreos, cake, donut,s and ice cream offered to you as well…

    "junklandia"???
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    The problem is refined SUGARS! Cut the sugars right down, and you will use more body fat.

    You might want to read up on how those things work before posting.
  • shamcd
    shamcd Posts: 178 Member
    I was going to message the OP, but it looks like she has deactivated her account.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    The problem is refined SUGARS! Cut the sugars right down, and you will use more body fat.

    Well that couldn't be further from the truth.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    The problem is refined SUGARS! Cut the sugars right down, and you will use more body fat.

    This is not true. If it were true, for all the years that I refused to eat sugar because I thought it was bad, I would not have fat, or as fat as I was. ;)
  • I am genuinely disturbed by how grossly misinterpreted this programme was by the OP.

    I've just finished watching it and its entire emphasis was on NOT cutting anything out. The programme was about the science behind what a calorie is, how the calorie is absorbed by the body, how you don't have to cut anything out to lose weight because CICO and how portion control plus little food swaps (eg: double cream instead of butter in mash) can save you calories.

    The presenter said on too many occasions to count that you don't have to eat just celery to lose weight. He was all about the chips, chocolate and cheesecake actually. His point was to understand how many calories your body needs, how many it burns and to eat less than maintenance calories to lose weight.

    How anyone reached the conclusion that it was about cutting out food items is beyond me.
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    Ravachu wrote: »
    I am genuinely disturbed by how grossly misinterpreted this programme was by the OP.

    I've just finished watching it and its entire emphasis was on NOT cutting anything out. The programme was about the science behind what a calorie is, how the calorie is absorbed by the body, how you don't have to cut anything out to lose weight because CICO and how portion control plus little food swaps (eg: double cream instead of butter in mash) can save you calories.

    The presenter said on too many occasions to count that you don't have to eat just celery to lose weight. He was all about the chips, chocolate and cheesecake actually. His point was to understand how many calories your body needs, how many it burns and to eat less than maintenance calories to lose weight.

    How anyone reached the conclusion that it was about cutting out food items is beyond me.

    She didn't misinterpret or conclude any such thing:

    "Just wanted to share this great documentary I recently watched on bbciplayer as it has me motivated again. It's called "The Truth About Calories" and you can find it on bbciplayer."

  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Ravachu wrote: »
    I am genuinely disturbed by how grossly misinterpreted this programme was by the OP.

    I've just finished watching it and its entire emphasis was on NOT cutting anything out. The programme was about the science behind what a calorie is, how the calorie is absorbed by the body, how you don't have to cut anything out to lose weight because CICO and how portion control plus little food swaps (eg: double cream instead of butter in mash) can save you calories.

    The presenter said on too many occasions to count that you don't have to eat just celery to lose weight. He was all about the chips, chocolate and cheesecake actually. His point was to understand how many calories your body needs, how many it burns and to eat less than maintenance calories to lose weight.

    How anyone reached the conclusion that it was about cutting out food items is beyond me.

    She didn't misinterpret or conclude any such thing:

    "Just wanted to share this great documentary I recently watched on bbciplayer as it has me motivated again. It's called "The Truth About Calories" and you can find it on bbciplayer."

    Why did you leave out her last sentence?
  • Altagracia220
    Altagracia220 Posts: 876 Member
    edited March 2015
    vitaminski wrote: »
    Oh dear what have I done? I was just referring to myself when it came to the chips, chocolate and cheesecake as I love them all and need a bit of motivation to eat less and found the programme motivational. As I said if you don't find this helpful to you am sure there is something out there that is. To each their own. :D

    Keep in mind this is MFP. We all have to be the same. There is a list of rules that you are to follow and if you don't you are wrong.

    Edit.

    Also, you will binge everyday for the rest of your life and gain 240 pounds if you cut the 'bad' foods out. So don't cut the 'bad' foods out.
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    Ravachu wrote: »
    I am genuinely disturbed by how grossly misinterpreted this programme was by the OP.

    I've just finished watching it and its entire emphasis was on NOT cutting anything out. The programme was about the science behind what a calorie is, how the calorie is absorbed by the body, how you don't have to cut anything out to lose weight because CICO and how portion control plus little food swaps (eg: double cream instead of butter in mash) can save you calories.

    The presenter said on too many occasions to count that you don't have to eat just celery to lose weight. He was all about the chips, chocolate and cheesecake actually. His point was to understand how many calories your body needs, how many it burns and to eat less than maintenance calories to lose weight.

    How anyone reached the conclusion that it was about cutting out food items is beyond me.

    She didn't misinterpret or conclude any such thing:

    "Just wanted to share this great documentary I recently watched on bbciplayer as it has me motivated again. It's called "The Truth About Calories" and you can find it on bbciplayer."

    Why did you leave out her last sentence?
    Because the beginning and end of the OP's post had nothing to do with the program. I only quoted the relevant bit.
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  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Ravachu wrote: »
    I am genuinely disturbed by how grossly misinterpreted this programme was by the OP.

    I've just finished watching it and its entire emphasis was on NOT cutting anything out. The programme was about the science behind what a calorie is, how the calorie is absorbed by the body, how you don't have to cut anything out to lose weight because CICO and how portion control plus little food swaps (eg: double cream instead of butter in mash) can save you calories.

    The presenter said on too many occasions to count that you don't have to eat just celery to lose weight. He was all about the chips, chocolate and cheesecake actually. His point was to understand how many calories your body needs, how many it burns and to eat less than maintenance calories to lose weight.

    How anyone reached the conclusion that it was about cutting out food items is beyond me.

    She didn't misinterpret or conclude any such thing:

    "Just wanted to share this great documentary I recently watched on bbciplayer as it has me motivated again. It's called "The Truth About Calories" and you can find it on bbciplayer."

    Why did you leave out her last sentence?
    Because the beginning and end of the OP's post had nothing to do with the program. I only quoted the relevant bit.

    If that's what you believe then what do you think of the areas in bold?


    Ravachu wrote: »
    I am genuinely disturbed by how grossly misinterpreted this programme was by the OP.

    I've just finished watching it and its entire emphasis was on NOT cutting anything out. The programme was about the science behind what a calorie is, how the calorie is absorbed by the body, how you don't have to cut anything out to lose weight because CICO and how portion control plus little food swaps (eg: double cream instead of butter in mash) can save you calories.

    The presenter said on too many occasions to count that you don't have to eat just celery to lose weight. He was all about the chips, chocolate and cheesecake actually. His point was to understand how many calories your body needs, how many it burns and to eat less than maintenance calories to lose weight.

    How anyone reached the conclusion that it was about cutting out food items is beyond me.


    vitaminski wrote: »
    I've recently lost 1/2 a stone and have been working out as I played Carnival in February this year. Now I no longer have the threat of a teeny, tiny carnival costume hanging over my head, I've been eating all the naughty stuff. The difficulty for me lies in keeping motivated when you have reached your goal and I've slipped a bit, but am ready to jump back on the wagon!!!

    Just wanted to share this great documentary I recently watched on bbciplayer as it has me motivated again. It's called "The Truth About Calories" and you can find it on bbciplayer. Hope it helps to keep you away from the chips, chocolate and cheesecake!!!!!

    :)

    The program motivated the OP to get back to her diet and she was trying to be encouraging with her closing sentence. People on diets generally stay away from chips, chocolate and cheesecake.

    Or do you really think the OP watched a show that had nothing to do with cutting out desserts but came here to tell everyone to cut out desserts because that's what this show said? That's an absurd interpretation of the OP's post -- and your welcome to it of course -- but I think it's nonsense.
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  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    TLDR anyone?

    I'm in for cheesecake.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited March 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    And FYI I know plenty of people that lose weight and don't stay away from food like that.

    "Don't stay away" is not the same as "eat as much as they'd like or is possible"

    Every successful and healthy dieter I know limits the amount of (for example) cheesecake that they're eating. In fact, the very definition of "in moderation" means they're limiting ALL food groups.

    So all of you arguing back and forth are avoiding foods - you're all the same - the only difference is the small margin in how much you're avoiding certain foods.

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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited March 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    And FYI I know plenty of people that lose weight and don't stay away from food like that.

    "Don't stay away" is not the same as "eat as much as they'd like or is possible"

    Every successful and healthy dieter I know limits the amount of (for example) cheesecake that they're eating. In fact, the very definition of "in moderation" means they're limiting ALL food groups.

    So all of you arguing back and forth are avoiding foods - you're all the same - the only difference is the small margin in how much you're avoiding certain foods.

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    Well then it's a good thing I didn't say that

    But thanks for playing

    Yes, you most assuredly did say "don't stay away from".

    And that's exactly the point.

    Same boat, different seat.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    vitaminski wrote: »
    The difficulty for me lies in keeping motivated when you have reached your goal and I've slipped a bit, but am ready to jump back on the wagon!!!

    I haven't seen the documentary but will try to remember to check it out if I ever get the chance.

    But, I think this sentence is important and why many regain after losing. Maintenance is harder than losing.
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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    And FYI I know plenty of people that lose weight and don't stay away from food like that.

    "Don't stay away" is not the same as "eat as much as they'd like or is possible"

    Every successful and healthy dieter I know limits the amount of (for example) cheesecake that they're eating. In fact, the very definition of "in moderation" means they're limiting ALL food groups.

    So all of you arguing back and forth are avoiding foods - you're all the same - the only difference is the small margin in how much you're avoiding certain foods.

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    Well then it's a good thing I didn't say that

    But thanks for playing

    Yes, you most assuredly did say "don't stay away from".

    And that's exactly the point.

    Same boat, different seat.

    Nope.

    As always you are trying to read into someone's statement and tell them what they really meant. Nice try with your word games.

    Do you think a dieter should eat all their calories as Skittles? No, you don't. Do the sugar-haters thing a dieter should eat all their calories as Skittles? No, they don't.

    There's one peg of the agreement.

    Do you think a dieter can do just fine eating a handle of Skittles every day? Yes, you do. Do the sugar-haters think a handful of skittles will completely derail a weight loss plan? No, they don't.

    There's the other peg of the agreement.

    You guys/gals are in 90% agreement, your vigourous argument is limited to minutae that is more or less irrelevant in the real world.

    Welcome to Lilliput! :drinker:

  • mynameisoliverqueen
    mynameisoliverqueen Posts: 63 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    The problem is refined SUGARS! Cut the sugars right down, and you will use more body fat.

    Well that couldn't be further from the truth.

    So you know more than every qualified nutritionist that I have spoken to that are not making ANY money out of me at all?

    Maybe you should research on how refined sugars and some fats are broken down by the liver before disagreeing with someone.

    Lets not forget how "correct" MFP actually is when it comes to calculating calories used during exercise..... Too many people brainwashed into thinking less calories in = more weight/fat lost..... Could not be further from the truth as if all your calories were from sugars, you would not be doing anything at all!

    I am done with the "community" now as I am not going to waste any more of my time.
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