OHP in squat rack?
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Or you could just refer to it as the power rack and your safe. It is quite common for people to use them for bench press as well as ohp, especially if you don't have a spotter. I also see many use it for barbell shrugs, hip thrusts, and many other variations of chest work, as it acts as a safety catch for many barbell exercises. Just be courteous to others needs and let others get sets in between exercises. One reason I'm glad I go to a slow gym, the power rack is my domain for the hour and twenty minutes I'm there.0
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I was a rebel tonight. After my main lifts, which involved front squat/push press in the power cage, I did some accessories. This included good mornings and I did them in the rack. Both the rack and the cage were empty at the time and no one was around so, eh. Someone did come and squat in the cage during my sets and I let them know it was open (as someone had left weights on rack, cage, the leg press, and probably something else). I could clean the bar for good mornings but then I'd have to stand somewhere and block a walkway or some other location with how gym is set up. So, I do it in the rack. *shrugs* If they are used or it's busy, I will have no problem doing the accessory lift somewhere else.
Note: I also saw guys doing OHP in the rack during my front squat/push press sets.0 -
DONT ohp in the squat rack!!!
There are good people waiting to do curlz0 -
I see more people using them for other exercises at my gym than I see them being used for squats (so disappointing). I say if no one is waiting for the rack then use it, if it's busy and people are waiting then do any exercise that doesn't require the rack elsewhere.0
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The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!0
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I see more people using them for other exercises at my gym than I see them being used for squats (so disappointing). I say if no one is waiting for the rack then use it, if it's busy and people are waiting then do any exercise that doesn't require the rack elsewhere.
But you don't necessarily know who's waiting for the squat rack because they are probably off doing something else while waiting. You might think that guy doing lunges on the other end of the weight room just wanted to do some lunges but actually he's just keeping himself busy while you are improperly using the equipment he needs.0 -
Squat rack is a perfectly acceptable place to do OHP.
You do BB rows there too- and rack pulls- and shoulder shrugs.
when you start shrugging 4-5 plates on each side- go ahead and tell the guy doing it he's wrong.0 -
I prefer the power rack over the squat rack, and yes, I’ll do my full 5x5 in a power rack if the gym isn’t busy. It has never been an issue.0
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In my mind, inside a power rack is the safest place to OHP. I've never seen someone actually drop the bar on accident, but I know it could happen.
If I fail on a rep, the rack provides the best protection for me and anybody else who is nearby.
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I deadlift and OHP inside the cage and OHP in the squat rack. I never knew there was any other way to OHP than to set the bar to the necessary height. Hmm...Anywho, I DL in the cage because I need to set the bar high to load my plates. It just makes the process of load and deloading the plates much easier than if it was on the floor. *shrug*0
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chubby_checkers wrote: »
I would second this as well ..
and I do OHP in the squat rack
besides, you get pretty damn tired if you had to clean and press 135# and then OHP it...0 -
correction, we have two power racks and I OHP in those..but I would not have an issue with someone OHP'ing in squat rack ...
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LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I was talking about gym memberships. There's probably more than one gym in NYC.LaarainNYC wrote: »LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »I think if someone's time were actually so valuable they can't wait to use a squat rack, they would be willing to pay enough for a gym that had enough equipment.
Some of us live in tiny apartments.
Yeah, but you'd be surprised how hard it is to find an affordable one with both a decent weight room and good dance/cardio classes.0 -
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?0 -
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
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LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
I don’t disagree that being able to power clean is a good thing, but if I’m on a push/pull program, I don’t necessarily want to do a clean on my push days.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.
because it is a great shoulder work out and also a compound movement that works other areas of body, perhaps?????????0 -
The OP's goal is to do OHP - not cleans.0
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AllanMisner wrote: »LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
I don’t disagree that being able to power clean is a good thing, but if I’m on a push/pull program, I don’t necessarily want to do a clean on my push days.
I could understand that. Personally, I like doing cleans on my push days because they get me "loosened up" from the deadlifting earlier in the week. Since I'm just doing cleans to get ready to do my strict presses I am never really handling big weights though.
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You guys keep saying "clean the bar" - what does that mean? Sorry, I'm new at this heavy lifting stuff.0
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Thank you
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Probably for the same variety of reasons that almost everyone else on here does OHP without cleaning the bar first. Just because someone wants to lift or become stronger doesn't mean their goal is maximizing strength at the expense of other things.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Probably for the same variety of reasons that almost everyone else on here does OHP without cleaning the bar first. Just because someone wants to lift or become stronger doesn't mean their goal is maximizing strength at the expense of other things.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.
So they strength train but they don't want to get stronger.... That makes sense...0 -
False dichotomy is false. So is strawman. That would be why it doesn't make sense.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Probably for the same variety of reasons that almost everyone else on here does OHP without cleaning the bar first. Just because someone wants to lift or become stronger doesn't mean their goal is maximizing strength at the expense of other things.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.
So they strength train but they don't want to get stronger.... That makes sense...0 -
herrspoons wrote: »LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Probably for the same variety of reasons that almost everyone else on here does OHP without cleaning the bar first. Just because someone wants to lift or become stronger doesn't mean their goal is maximizing strength at the expense of other things.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.
So they strength train but they don't want to get stronger.... That makes sense...
I honestly don't get your point. The purpose of the OHP is to work my delts, triceps, core, and some other bits. The purpose of a clean is explosive strength involving the legs, core, and various other bits... but not really the delts or triceps.
They are not the same thing, in fact they aren't even related.
I never argued that they were the same. My point was that the OP is lifting weights so they must therefore intend on becoming stronger or developing more muscle. Cleaning the weight will only aid in those efforts and will keep the squat rack clear for other people who want to use it for its intended purpose.
Your argument about the purpose of OHP being to "work my delts, triceps, core and some other bits" doesn't make a lot of sense unless you are only lifting to have something to do. Most people expect to elicit a physical adaptation from their training; not just "work" some muscles (stating that a lift is there to "work" a muscle is on par with stating that a lift is there to "tone"). The obvious adaptations being elicited from weighted exercises are increases in strength and muscle mass.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
False dichotomy is false. So is strawman. That would be why it doesn't make sense.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Probably for the same variety of reasons that almost everyone else on here does OHP without cleaning the bar first. Just because someone wants to lift or become stronger doesn't mean their goal is maximizing strength at the expense of other things.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
I didn't say my goal was to be strong. That's your goal. If it's fine for you to evaluate everything everyone else does based on your goal, it's only fair if I do the same. Therefore, your workout, which doesn't help you become a better diver, is a total waste of time. It won't help you do anything but wussie dives like cannonballs.LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
Your workout sucks because you can't dive.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
Diving is a far cry from being strong so your analogy was really just an immature hyperbole.
There is a good reason for cleaning the bar. Having a power clean that is equal to your overhead press insures that you have the ability to apply that overhead pressing power in a real life situation. Outside of the gym, you need to get something to your shoulders before you can press it over head. If you can't get a barbell to your shoulders before you press it, how do you expect to do the same with an awkward object like a heavy box, etc.... that is even more difficult to grip and handle than a barbell?
Why would the OP do overhead presses if they weren't at all interested in strength?
I am not talking about your goals because, frankly, I could not possibly care less about what your goals are. I am talking about the OP's goals; and the OP is lifting weights, not diving.
So they strength train but they don't want to get stronger.... That makes sense...
False sense of superiority through the use of deflection and rhetoric is also false.0 -
I don't consider it inappropriate to do OHP in the squat rack, even if there is only one. I would ask how many sets they have left and let them know you need it to squat.
I agree over head press needs the space and the smith machine doesn't give you the same type of workout. I would be considerate of other people but if you are like many people with OHP you can't do a ton of them so it shouldn't take too long.0
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