What is wrong with my BODY?????
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branflakes1980 wrote: »AdrienneKaren wrote: »Eat more. Seriously. If you're consuming 1400 calories or fewer and working out, you're not eating enough. And for heaven's sake, eat the whole egg! The yoke has way more nutrients than the whites.
Upon further investigation I have to agree with this. The below are the caloric intakes suggested for your height and weight that "moderately exercises" and if you are really working out 7 days a week moderate is an underestimate.
You need 2,727 Calories/day to maintain your weight.
You need 2,227 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week.
You need 1,727 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week.
If you are eating less than 1400 calories each day you are eating much too little. My suggestion is to establish a healthy relationship with food.
Im scared to eat that many calories. Oh WOW
I'm guessing this is a TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) calculation. You can do several versions here and see for yourself.
http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
I got about 2200 for your baseline. So you would eat at a 10% deficit to that to see how your body reacts. So 2000 calories a day. Ideally that would be mostly whole foods and not processed if possible. None of us are perfect
What's wrong with your body? You are only eating half the food it actually requires and still expect it to function the way you want it to.
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MFP also allows you to track certain measurements; neck, waist, hips. This will also give you a more complete picture of what is going on with your body.
Make sure that you are taking your weight at the same time when you do it. I like to take mine first thing in the morning before I eat or drink anything.
This. Great advice.
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AdrienneKaren wrote: »Eat more. Seriously. If you're consuming 1400 calories or fewer and working out, you're not eating enough. And for heaven's sake, eat the whole egg! The yoke has way more nutrients than the whites.
If she isn't losing, she is eating more.
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^if you mean she isn't really eating 1400 calories, maybe.0
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MFP also allows you to track certain measurements; neck, waist, hips. This will also give you a more complete picture of what is going on with your body.
Make sure that you are taking your weight at the same time when you do it. I like to take mine first thing in the morning before I eat or drink anything.
Awesome going to measure now thanks
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bostonwolf wrote: »branflakes1980 wrote: »AdrienneKaren wrote: »Eat more. Seriously. If you're consuming 1400 calories or fewer and working out, you're not eating enough. And for heaven's sake, eat the whole egg! The yoke has way more nutrients than the whites.
Upon further investigation I have to agree with this. The below are the caloric intakes suggested for your height and weight that "moderately exercises" and if you are really working out 7 days a week moderate is an underestimate.
You need 2,727 Calories/day to maintain your weight.
You need 2,227 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week.
You need 1,727 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week.
If you are eating less than 1400 calories each day you are eating much too little. My suggestion is to establish a healthy relationship with food.
Im scared to eat that many calories. Oh WOW
I'm guessing this is a TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) calculation. You can do several versions here and see for yourself.
http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
I got about 2200 for your baseline. So you would eat at a 10% deficit to that to see how your body reacts. So 2000 calories a day. Ideally that would be mostly whole foods and not processed if possible. None of us are perfect
What's wrong with your body? You are only eating half the food it actually requires and still expect it to function the way you want it to.
I'm trying to eat more. I started weighing my food and measuring it...I'm actually under eating. It's really bad....like maybe 700-1000 a day and burning 300 a day. Yikes. I thought I was over eating. So I'm adding things that will not make me feel bad, carrots, bananas,veggies, whole wheat,and eggs. I don't know what to think eating all this food. I got on the scale this morning 3lbs gone!!! Whoa
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With everything else, I suggest only weighing yourself weekly, and use a weight trender like www.weightgrapher.com to start understanding the long term trends of what you are doing. I suspect you have monthly fluctuations of water weight that are hiding your losses.0
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At 5'10" and 176 pounds, your BMI is 25.3. You are barely, JUST BARELY, in the overweight category.
Also, according to fitnessfrog, your TDEE calories are 2196 with light exercise. Even eating 20% below that, you should be eating approximately 1756 calories a day. IMO, you are very close to a normal weight so losing is much harder, and I believe your calories are set way too low. The fact that you are NOT losing weight leads me to believe you're eating and drinking far more than you realize.
*edit* I should have read the rest of the thread. TDEE has already been talked about. Never mind. 0 -
bostonwolf wrote: »branflakes1980 wrote: »AdrienneKaren wrote: »Eat more. Seriously. If you're consuming 1400 calories or fewer and working out, you're not eating enough. And for heaven's sake, eat the whole egg! The yoke has way more nutrients than the whites.
Upon further investigation I have to agree with this. The below are the caloric intakes suggested for your height and weight that "moderately exercises" and if you are really working out 7 days a week moderate is an underestimate.
You need 2,727 Calories/day to maintain your weight.
You need 2,227 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week.
You need 1,727 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week.
If you are eating less than 1400 calories each day you are eating much too little. My suggestion is to establish a healthy relationship with food.
Im scared to eat that many calories. Oh WOW
I'm guessing this is a TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) calculation. You can do several versions here and see for yourself.
http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
I got about 2200 for your baseline. So you would eat at a 10% deficit to that to see how your body reacts. So 2000 calories a day. Ideally that would be mostly whole foods and not processed if possible. None of us are perfect
What's wrong with your body? You are only eating half the food it actually requires and still expect it to function the way you want it to.
I'm trying to eat more. I started weighing my food and measuring it...I'm actually under eating. It's really bad....like maybe 700-1000 a day and burning 300 a day. Yikes. I thought I was over eating. So I'm adding things that will not make me feel bad, carrots, bananas,veggies, whole wheat,and eggs. I don't know what to think eating all this food. I got on the scale this morning 3lbs gone!!! Whoa
In your OP you said that you were consuming 1400 and burning off about 300..
so in reality you were only eating about 400 to 700 and burning off 300 for a net of a 100 to 400 calories????
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At 5'10" and 176 pounds, your BMI is 25.3. You are barely, JUST BARELY, in the overweight category.
Also, according to fitnessfrog, your TDEE calories are 2196 with light exercise. Even eating 20% below that, you should be eating approximately 1756 calories a day. IMO, you are very close to a normal weight so losing is much harder, and I believe your calories are set way too low. The fact that you are NOT losing weight leads me to believe you're eating and drinking far more than you realize.
BMI is a garbage stat because it does not take into account muscle mass, so I would not base anything on what one's BMI is.
My BMI is over weight and I am about 14% body fat....
I agree with the eating more part though...0 -
bostonwolf wrote: »branflakes1980 wrote: »AdrienneKaren wrote: »Eat more. Seriously. If you're consuming 1400 calories or fewer and working out, you're not eating enough. And for heaven's sake, eat the whole egg! The yoke has way more nutrients than the whites.
Upon further investigation I have to agree with this. The below are the caloric intakes suggested for your height and weight that "moderately exercises" and if you are really working out 7 days a week moderate is an underestimate.
You need 2,727 Calories/day to maintain your weight.
You need 2,227 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week.
You need 1,727 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week.
If you are eating less than 1400 calories each day you are eating much too little. My suggestion is to establish a healthy relationship with food.
Im scared to eat that many calories. Oh WOW
I'm guessing this is a TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) calculation. You can do several versions here and see for yourself.
http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
I got about 2200 for your baseline. So you would eat at a 10% deficit to that to see how your body reacts. So 2000 calories a day. Ideally that would be mostly whole foods and not processed if possible. None of us are perfect
What's wrong with your body? You are only eating half the food it actually requires and still expect it to function the way you want it to.
I'm trying to eat more. I started weighing my food and measuring it...I'm actually under eating. It's really bad....like maybe 700-1000 a day and burning 300 a day. Yikes. I thought I was over eating. So I'm adding things that will not make me feel bad, carrots, bananas,veggies, whole wheat,and eggs. I don't know what to think eating all this food. I got on the scale this morning 3lbs gone!!! Whoa
In your OP you said that you were consuming 1400 and burning off about 300..
so in reality you were only eating about 400 to 700 and burning off 300 for a net of a 100 to 400 calories????
Yes. I believe this is a more accurate number. This is bad right?
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bostonwolf wrote: »branflakes1980 wrote: »AdrienneKaren wrote: »Eat more. Seriously. If you're consuming 1400 calories or fewer and working out, you're not eating enough. And for heaven's sake, eat the whole egg! The yoke has way more nutrients than the whites.
Upon further investigation I have to agree with this. The below are the caloric intakes suggested for your height and weight that "moderately exercises" and if you are really working out 7 days a week moderate is an underestimate.
You need 2,727 Calories/day to maintain your weight.
You need 2,227 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week.
You need 1,727 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week.
If you are eating less than 1400 calories each day you are eating much too little. My suggestion is to establish a healthy relationship with food.
Im scared to eat that many calories. Oh WOW
I'm guessing this is a TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) calculation. You can do several versions here and see for yourself.
http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
I got about 2200 for your baseline. So you would eat at a 10% deficit to that to see how your body reacts. So 2000 calories a day. Ideally that would be mostly whole foods and not processed if possible. None of us are perfect
What's wrong with your body? You are only eating half the food it actually requires and still expect it to function the way you want it to.
I'm trying to eat more. I started weighing my food and measuring it...I'm actually under eating. It's really bad....like maybe 700-1000 a day and burning 300 a day. Yikes. I thought I was over eating. So I'm adding things that will not make me feel bad, carrots, bananas,veggies, whole wheat,and eggs. I don't know what to think eating all this food. I got on the scale this morning 3lbs gone!!! Whoa
In your OP you said that you were consuming 1400 and burning off about 300..
so in reality you were only eating about 400 to 700 and burning off 300 for a net of a 100 to 400 calories????
Yes. I believe this is a more accurate number. This is bad right?
that is definitely not good, how long do you think you were doing that for?0 -
years.
I will get mad and eat whatever and thats when i will actually gain. I weighed 165 for about 4 years. Then just gave up. Normally I eat the same 700 or less (with exercise) I thought i was eating more. Until I started measuring...now im wondering if this is why my muscles ache ALL THE TIME!!! Ah This is so enlightening 0 -
by years, do you mean that you have been netting that low of calories for years, or that you have been yoyoig for years?
I am just curious how long you have been netting that low of calories for, because you may have some kind of metabolic adaptation going on and/or adaptive thermogenesis..
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yo yoing for years. and 80% of too low calories also for years. When I do stay on my diet Its way too low.0
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yo yoing for years. and 80% of too low calories also for years. When I do stay on my diet Its way too low.
OK - well I would suggest making sure that you net the number that MFP gives you for X amount of weight loss.
Also, I would only eat back half of exercise calories as the burn estimates on those things are way off.0 -
yo yoing for years. and 80% of too low calories also for years. When I do stay on my diet Its way too low.
OK - well I would suggest making sure that you net the number that MFP gives you for X amount of weight loss.
Also, I would only eat back half of exercise calories as the burn estimates on those things are way off.
Being unfamiliar with the impacts of eating such a low volume for such a long time, should the OP expect to see an initial spike in weight? I would imagine her body will need to adjust to the new volume of food, no?
If so, then I'd just want her to know to expect that, to not freak out and to definitely not return to her ultra low cal consumption.0 -
MireyGal76 wrote: »yo yoing for years. and 80% of too low calories also for years. When I do stay on my diet Its way too low.
OK - well I would suggest making sure that you net the number that MFP gives you for X amount of weight loss.
Also, I would only eat back half of exercise calories as the burn estimates on those things are way off.
Being unfamiliar with the impacts of eating such a low volume for such a long time, should the OP expect to see an initial spike in weight? I would imagine her body will need to adjust to the new volume of food, no?
If so, then I'd just want her to know to expect that, to not freak out and to definitely not return to her ultra low cal consumption.
good point.
ummm, I would assume yes as about five pounds of it would be glycogen replenishment/water weight...but my expectation would be that she would start losing in a few months once her body adjusted to the new intake and everything "reset"...
this assumes that the low net number I am working off has been going on for in excess of a year....
So OP - You may see a temporary gain but that is just water weight and don't freak out and start dropping calories...0 -
MireyGal76 wrote: »Being unfamiliar with the impacts of eating such a low volume for such a long time, should the OP expect to see an initial spike in weight? I would imagine her body will need to adjust to the new volume of food, no?
If so, then I'd just want her to know to expect that, to not freak out and to definitely not return to her ultra low cal consumption.
@MireyGal76 , that's a great idea.
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Starting new way of thinking now. Im going to 1. eat my set amount of calories 2. exercise and eat back only 50% of those burned 3. not freak out when the scale goes up 4. pray this works Thanks everyone. Serious Serious help on this thread!!!!!! I am very thankful!! 0
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Calorie are calories, you shouldn't feel guilty eating anything as long as your close to your daily caloric goal.
Not even close to being true. It is also important to ensure you’re getting your macros and other nutrients right. Otherwise, you risk damaging your metabolism, screwing up your hormones, and setting yourself up for crashing and/or bingeing.
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Starting new way of thinking now. Im going to 1. eat my set amount of calories 2. exercise and eat back only 50% of those burned 3. not freak out when the scale goes up 4. pray this works Thanks everyone. Serious Serious help on this thread!!!!!! I am very thankful!!
You're supposed to eat back all your calories assuming you're using a heart rate monitor.
since she said on page one that she does not eat them back, it is pretty safe to assume that she does not have one..
or did you not read the whole thread?
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Starting new way of thinking now. Im going to 1. eat my set amount of calories 2. exercise and eat back only 50% of those burned 3. not freak out when the scale goes up 4. pray this works Thanks everyone. Serious Serious help on this thread!!!!!! I am very thankful!!
5. Log it all in your diary
As for @AllanMisner 's comments, I think at this point, ensuring she is getting enough calories would be the focus.
When I first started... I focused on eating whatever and strictly meeting my calories. As I got more proficient with logging and understanding what foods made me feel more full, for less calories, without sacrificing taste... I started becoming more aware of my protein levels.
I still don't focus too far beyond trying to get a decent level of protein. The rest falls pretty well into place.
IDGAF about my sugars, and I know my sodium is high... but a LOT of those work themselves out when I'm trying to meet protein
OP... for now... just keep it simple. Don't worry too much about macros until you are consistently eating enough food. Because you've been eating so low for so long, even hitting THAT target may be challenging, and you may want to consider easing your way back up to good healthy levels.
CONGRATULATIONS on asking for help, and for actually listening to the answers! YOU ROCK!
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Starting new way of thinking now. Im going to 1. eat my set amount of calories 2. exercise and eat back only 50% of those burned 3. not freak out when the scale goes up 4. pray this works Thanks everyone. Serious Serious help on this thread!!!!!! I am very thankful!!
good plan and good luck!0 -
AllanMisner wrote: »Calorie are calories, you shouldn't feel guilty eating anything as long as your close to your daily caloric goal.
Not even close to being true. It is also important to ensure you’re getting your macros and other nutrients right. Otherwise, you risk damaging your metabolism, screwing up your hormones, and setting yourself up for crashing and/or bingeing.
Your "metabolism" doesn't get damaged. WHen people eat, they have a decent distribution of macros, it's not like someone is going to eat 100% carbs/fats or protein.
If binging is the issue it would be better to lower carbs.
really, so if someone like OP is netting a insanely low number like 400 to 700 calories a day for a year, then they will have no metabolic damage what so ever?
if that is the case then why did you agree that OP should eat more, because based on what you are now saying she would gain weight at the higher intake level??
I see you are still stuck on the ridiculous notion that people only binge on carbs...0 -
AllanMisner wrote: »Calorie are calories, you shouldn't feel guilty eating anything as long as your close to your daily caloric goal.
Not even close to being true. It is also important to ensure you’re getting your macros and other nutrients right. Otherwise, you risk damaging your metabolism, screwing up your hormones, and setting yourself up for crashing and/or bingeing.
Your "metabolism" doesn't get damaged. WHen people eat, they have a decent distribution of macros, it's not like someone is going to eat 100% carbs/fats or protein.
If binging is the issue it would be better to lower carbs.
Sorry, but that’s not what I see when I look at many people’s food logs. I see cereal, bagels, bread, pasta, fruit, but very few nutrient dense vegetables and very little meat or fish. There are reasons why General Mills and Coca Cola are huge companies.
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AllanMisner wrote: »Calorie are calories, you shouldn't feel guilty eating anything as long as your close to your daily caloric goal.
Not even close to being true. It is also important to ensure you’re getting your macros and other nutrients right. Otherwise, you risk damaging your metabolism, screwing up your hormones, and setting yourself up for crashing and/or bingeing.
Your "metabolism" doesn't get damaged. WHen people eat, they have a decent distribution of macros, it's not like someone is going to eat 100% carbs/fats or protein.
If binging is the issue it would be better to lower carbs.
really, so if someone like OP is netting a insanely low number like 400 to 700 calories a day for a year, then they will have no metabolic damage what so ever?
if that is the case then why did you agree that OP should eat more, because based on what you are now saying she would gain weight at the higher intake level??
I see you are still stuck on the ridiculous notion that people only binge on carbs...
Metabolic Damage is metabolic adaptation. Metabolism can be decreased, but it can also be increased. It's not "broken".
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/another-look-at-metabolic-damage.html/
People don't go around saying, "I binged on chicken breast and salad" I know you guys don't get things to clearly, so I will clear it up, "people usually binge on processed carbs."
wait, you just said your metabolism does not get damaged, and now you are saying it does???
I never said people binged on chicken and salad, that is a straw man argument that you are setting up.
If someone binged on chips, is it because of the carbs, or because of the fats, or because of the salty taste and they just keep eating them?
My point is you can't just isolate carbs, and say that is what people binge on.
what about someone that crushes a 20 oz steak? OR does that not fit your definition of binging?
Back in the day I could house down three to four cheese burgers....or is that not binging?
Your argument that people binge on carbs is ridiculous.
ETA - I am done arguing with you in this thread, as I do not want to derail OP ..
if you want, start a thread called "people only binge on carbs" and see what the response is.0 -
AllanMisner wrote: »Calorie are calories, you shouldn't feel guilty eating anything as long as your close to your daily caloric goal.
Not even close to being true. It is also important to ensure you’re getting your macros and other nutrients right. Otherwise, you risk damaging your metabolism, screwing up your hormones, and setting yourself up for crashing and/or bingeing.
Your "metabolism" doesn't get damaged. WHen people eat, they have a decent distribution of macros, it's not like someone is going to eat 100% carbs/fats or protein.
If binging is the issue it would be better to lower carbs.
really, so if someone like OP is netting a insanely low number like 400 to 700 calories a day for a year, then they will have no metabolic damage what so ever?
if that is the case then why did you agree that OP should eat more, because based on what you are now saying she would gain weight at the higher intake level??
I see you are still stuck on the ridiculous notion that people only binge on carbs...
Metabolic Damage is metabolic adaptation. Metabolism can be decreased, but it can also be increased. It's not "broken".
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/another-look-at-metabolic-damage.html/
People don't go around saying, "I binged on chicken breast and salad" I know you guys don't get things to clearly, so I will clear it up, "people usually binge on processed carbs."
I'm sorry, PU, but all I'm hearing is BLAH BLAH BLAH. Your responses are not adequate for this thread. The OP was way underestimating her caloric intake and was eating at dangerously low levels. She's not concerned about binging or carbs or even macros.
Perhaps you should leave this technical argument to it's own thread, and leave the OPs thread alone?
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This has been a great discussion. I appreciate the reasonable, sound advice given here. I didn't post any advice, but I have taken a lot from here. Thanks!0
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Here is my routine 7 days a week. 2.5 miles of walking highest5mph. 1400 calories a day or less. I eat Egg whites (3 tbs) 1 pc of whole wheat grain bread and natural cheese every morning. I eat turkey or chicken with a veggie for lunch. snack is banana or hummus dinner I eat only chicken or fish and salad. I drink 6 bottles of water a day. I cant lose weight. Im 5'10" 176 sometimes it will go to 174 if Im lucky....Please help Im at a loss
We blossom during rest times...when do you rest
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