vegan diet
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what do you guys think about vegan diet? does it help lose weight?
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No. If you want to be a vegan for humane reasons, more power to you. But if you just want to lose weight and eat healthy, there is no reason to exclude all animal foods from your diet.0
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I've been vegan for nine years. I love it. However, it's not a weight loss diet. Vegans come in all shapes and sizes. I've been at my lowest weight as a vegan and my second highest weight as a vegan. It comes down to calories in and calories out.
Some vegans lose weight because the animal products they eliminated were major sources of calories for them and they don't replace them with other things. However, lots of people find good replacements and are able to maintain their weight (or even gain weight). There are so many delicious vegan foods -- it's very easy to overdo it.
Veganism is an ethical position on animal exploitation. It's certainly compatible with losing weight, but if you go vegan to lose weight, you may wind up disappointed. Or you may lose weight. It will come down to calories in and calories out, just as it does today.0 -
Vegan or not, you still have to monitor what you eat. There is no easy way out of this, plenty of great vegan/vegetarian alternatives are just as high in calories as the animal product counterparts0
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What about Raw food Diet?0
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I lost about 20lbs going vegan, but I focused on consuming mostly plant based foods. Lots of veggies, beans, and fruits. Anytime you up your veggie intake you're doing good things! But I stopped eating vegan because I found that just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's healthy. French fries are vegan. So are Oreos. So it all boils down to consuming healthy choices. I cut out animal products and alcohol for 21 days as a way of getting back on track to clean eating, but I find it easier to make healthy choices and maximize my protein intake when I'm incorporating lean meats and non fat dairy into my diet.0
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What about Raw food Diet?
Even if the food you eat is uncooked, you will still need a calorie deficit to lose weight. Many people find it easy to create a calorie deficit on a raw food diet because it is easy to eat high volume and low calorie on the diet. But if you are replacing cooked foods with calorie-dense raw foods, you will simply maintain your weight or even gain. You also have to consider that many people find it difficult to sustain or that you will be at a higher risk for many deficiencies (even if you eat a variety of raw foods, our body is better able to absorb certain nutrients from cooked food).
Do you think you would like a raw food diet? Do you think you could sustain it long-term? Are you willing to do the research to avoid negative health impacts? Only you know the answer to these questions. But even if the answer is yes, you will still need to create a calorie deficit in order to lose weight. Why not try, like many of us have, creating a calorie deficit while eating the foods you already enjoy? If you want to add more foods that are free of animal products or raw foods to that diet, you certainly can.
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There are thin vegans and fat vegans. I've eaten a mostly vegan diet for the last 24 years and gained 30 lbs in the last few years anyway. Now I've lost most of that, still on a vegan diet. I agree--There are many reasons to go vegan, but if weight loss is your main reason, why bother?0
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vegan almost 8 years here and I still struggle with weight. You do it for ethics, not to lose weight.0
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What about Raw food Diet?
I've done raw food diet too...and lost a bunch of weight but it's difficult to sustain. Who would have thought that only consuming 800 calories a day would lead to dramatic weight loss!?!?! There is so much time and prep involved once you start making recipes, getting dehydrators, sprouting, etc... it can be VERY time consuming and incredibly difficult when you're living in the everyday world.
You have to eat SO MUCH in raw veggies to get enough calories. But again, you could eat 5 avocados a day, several handful of nuts and a tub of hummus and still be consuming too much fat for a day.
I've done it all, and seriously, all the fad *kitten* doesn't last. You have to find a lifestyle that works. Tracking intake and activity is the only thing that has worked and has STAYED working for me. Yes, on raw foods I lost 20lbs, but then afterwards I binged on junk/cooked food that I hadn't had in 5 weeks and gained it all back when I went back to my old eating patterns.
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Yes! I went vegan for a few months and lost weight so fast! Vegan diets are super healthy if you know what you are doing and it makes the world a better place
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How about the Eat Less Than You Burn diet?0
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Yes! I went vegan for a few months and lost weight so fast! Vegan diets are super healthy if you know what you are doing and it makes the world a better place
You lost weight fast because you were eating at a calorie deficit. This often happens to newer vegans because they remove calorie dense animal products from their food without replacing them with other things. But it isn't inherent to veganism -- a calorie deficit in any diet will produce the same results.
I won't argue with you that veganism makes the world a better place -- I am not a fan of animal exploitation. But there is nothing automatically "super healthy" about it.0 -
what do you guys think about vegan diet? does it help lose weight?
No. While I won't discourage anyone from trying out a vegan diet, it is not necessary to do in order to lose weight. It's not a magic fix to get skinny, not all vegans are thin. IMO the only reason to go vegan is because you have ethical concerns about eating and using animal products. If you want to try it, go for it! But CICO is what will cgive you weight loss.
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I'm here as a Low Fat High Carb Plant Based (Healthy Vegan). I agree that just being Vegan is not enough but I learned to avoid the oils, saturated fats, cholesterol, and processed junk foods. I disagree with a lot of these posts about being sustainable. I've tried everything but this lifestyle in the last 40 years! Calorie Restriction, High Protein Low Carb Diets run rampid and are very unstable long term. Most people only do it as a 3 month challenge to lose weight for bikini season or try the Mon-Fri diet...then gain it all back after that goal is met. We find ourselves going right back to eating junk food. It's very easy for me to follow a plant based "lifestyle" because my cravings are completely gone for unhealthy food and I eat a lot more to now and always satiated and my energy is through the roof! I don't really count calories but I'm doing this out of my own curiosity and maybe it will inspire others. Friend me if your interested.0
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I'm here as a Low Fat High Carb Plant Based (Healthy Vegan). I agree that just being Vegan is not enough but I learned to avoid the oils, saturated fats, cholesterol, and processed junk foods. I disagree with a lot of these posts about being sustainable. I've tried everything but this lifestyle in the last 40 years! Calorie Restriction, High Protein Low Carb Diets run rampid and are very unstable long term. Most people only do it as a 3 month challenge to lose weight for bikini season or try the Mon-Fri diet...then gain it all back after that goal is met. We find ourselves going right back to eating junk food. It's very easy for me to follow a plant based "lifestyle" because my cravings are completely gone for unhealthy food and I eat a lot more to now and always satiated and my energy is through the roof! I don't really count calories but I'm doing this out of my own curiosity and maybe it will inspire others. Friend me if your interested.
I'm confused about how eating a piece of chicken, or an egg, is going to lead to a junk food binge?
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I'm here as a Low Fat High Carb Plant Based (Healthy Vegan). I agree that just being Vegan is not enough but I learned to avoid the oils, saturated fats, cholesterol, and processed junk foods. I disagree with a lot of these posts about being sustainable. I've tried everything but this lifestyle in the last 40 years! Calorie Restriction, High Protein Low Carb Diets run rampid and are very unstable long term. Most people only do it as a 3 month challenge to lose weight for bikini season or try the Mon-Fri diet...then gain it all back after that goal is met. We find ourselves going right back to eating junk food. It's very easy for me to follow a plant based "lifestyle" because my cravings are completely gone for unhealthy food and I eat a lot more to now and always satiated and my energy is through the roof! I don't really count calories but I'm doing this out of my own curiosity and maybe it will inspire others. Friend me if your interested.
Why is LFHC more sustainable than HPLC? I don't think either one sounds particularly sustainable, but that's based on my personal preference.
If someone goes vegan, even LFHC vegan, to lose weight, then I doubt that will be particularly sustainable either.0 -
I'm here as a Low Fat High Carb Plant Based (Healthy Vegan). I agree that just being Vegan is not enough but I learned to avoid the oils, saturated fats, cholesterol, and processed junk foods. I disagree with a lot of these posts about being sustainable. I've tried everything but this lifestyle in the last 40 years! Calorie Restriction, High Protein Low Carb Diets run rampid and are very unstable long term. Most people only do it as a 3 month challenge to lose weight for bikini season or try the Mon-Fri diet...then gain it all back after that goal is met. We find ourselves going right back to eating junk food. It's very easy for me to follow a plant based "lifestyle" because my cravings are completely gone for unhealthy food and I eat a lot more to now and always satiated and my energy is through the roof! I don't really count calories but I'm doing this out of my own curiosity and maybe it will inspire others. Friend me if your interested.
Buy you are only 43, so you started trying different diets at age 3?
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PRMinx: Eating less and starving yourself of nutrition is what leads people to binge because they are still hungry and not satiated. Then you are sold on drugs and supplements to curb your appetite or get vitamins so now it cost $$. Not to mention even eating smaller amounts of chicken and eggs for that matter is still higher in saturated fat and cholesterol then getting the same protein from plant based without the bad stuff.
janejellyroll: More sustainable because you eat when your hungry and don't starve yourself. I'm only talking plant based here...not vegan junk food. How many times has everyone here lost weight and gained it back? Before I switched to plant based...it was every 3 months...now it's been a year and I'm feeling much healthier and lighter..."all the time". If you ask any fitness competitor that is plant based...they are always ready and don't have to bulk up, slim down, or cut before competition and they recover much faster.
jddnw! LOL Thanks for pointing that out! Hey, now that I realize it...I was still a meat and dairy guy at age 3 too. My mom was feeding me liquid milk or mashed up meat!0 -
PRMinx: Eating less and starving yourself of nutrition is what leads people to binge because they are still hungry and not satiated. Then you are sold on drugs and supplements to curb your appetite or get vitamins so now it cost $$. Not to mention even eating smaller amounts of chicken and eggs for that matter is still higher in saturated fat and cholesterol then getting the same protein from plant based without the bad stuff.
janejellyroll: More sustainable because you eat when your hungry and don't starve yourself. I'm only talking plant based here...not vegan junk food. How many times has everyone here lost weight and gained it back? Before I switched to plant based...it was every 3 months...now it's been a year and I'm feeling much healthier and lighter..."all the time". If you ask any fitness competitor that is plant based...they are always ready and don't have to bulk up, slim down, or cut before competition and they recover much faster.
jddnw! LOL Thanks for pointing that out! Hey, now that I realize it...I was still a meat and dairy guy at age 3 too. My mom was feeding me liquid milk or mashed up meat!
WUT?
Where did I say anything about eating less and starving myself of nutrition? How do you make that leap?
And you didn't answer my question. You deflected it with a response that literally makes no sense.
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Yes, because vegans need to add another label to ourselves. So if I don't specify I am "plant based" which is ridiculous, because everything vegans eat already began as a plant. Then we are automatically considered "junk food vegans" This irritates the shiz out of me. Clearly us lowly vegans haven't learned moderation and are gorging ourselves on Daiya and SO Delicious..... eye roll.
Just like in an omni diet, there is room for treats, and just because YOU have a binging issue does not mean it applies to everyone.
p.s. Binge Eating is rarely about the food, it's about what's in your head.0 -
You asked how eating a "piece of chicken", or "an egg", is going to lead to a junk food binge? What does "a piece" of chicken or an egg sound like to you? That sounds like just a bite to me. Anyway, there are a lot of things that lead to a junk food binge but #1 for me was eating less and working out harder and using supplements and diet pills. Eventually who isn't going to want to hit a buffet and just get wheeled out of there?? lol0
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You asked how eating a "piece of chicken", or "an egg", is going to lead to a junk food binge? What does "a piece" of chicken or an egg sound like to you? That sounds like just a bite to me. Anyway, there are a lot of things that lead to a junk food binge but #1 for me was eating less and working out harder and using supplements and diet pills. Eventually who isn't going to want to hit a buffet and just get wheeled out of there?? lol
Seriously, what?
A standard piece of chicken is anywhere from 5-8oz. Hardly a bite. And an egg is a great snack. I think the problems you have had are a reflection of either your lack of knowledge about nutrition and serving size, or a psychological need to binge.
I never once mentioned eating less and starving. If you are starving, you are doing it wrong. If you are crutching on supplements and diet pills, you are doing it wrong. Just because you haven't been able to find moderation for yourself, doesn't make meat inherently bad for everyone.
And, BTW, if you eat over maintenance in vegan friendly foods, you will still gain weight. Calories in, calories out. Because, science.
For the record, to the other posters, I have nothing against veganism. But if you are going to go on a vegan diet, do it for the right reason NOT because it's a magical weight loss cure.0 -
Thanks everyone, I am gonna try being vegan for two weeks or more and see what it feels like! And i mean healthy vegan. I haven't eaten french fries, chips and other junk food for 3 months anyways so i think I might be fine! I just have to give it a try! Thanks again everyone0
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Laruend224, there is a big difference between eating unhealthy and healthy just like there is a big difference between eating animals vs not eating animals to me. I see labels on products all the time that are saying "Vegan" to fool people but are totally unhealthy and I see "Free Range" that doesn't mean squat to me because animals don't deserve to be killed anyway.
Believe me, I don't like labels either but people need to be aware of the truth behind them.
When I say Plant Based, I really don't mean at all to assume all Vegans are unhealthy but for those thinking they will lose weight and be healthier just by switching to Vegan is far from the truth.0 -
PRMinx...I know a lot about moderation..I have had to use moderation when eating meat and dairy and processed foods my entire life up until now to get in shape. I'd say most of the people here have done the same and most come back over and over again expecting different results. I'm not saying it doesn't work but it's a revolving door for most people, especially as we get older.
I know a lot about health and nutrition because I've been doing a lot of research about it and the benefits of eating plant based are just so much better for your health and fighting and prevent diseases but I'll leave that discussion for another topic!0 -
PRMinx...I know a lot about moderation..I have had to use moderation when eating meat and dairy and processed foods my entire life up until now to get in shape. I'd say most of the people here have done the same and most come back over and over again expecting different results. I'm not saying it doesn't work but it's a revolving door for most people, especially as we get older.
I know a lot about health and nutrition because I've been doing a lot of research about it and the benefits of eating plant based are just so much better for your health and fighting and prevent diseases but I'll leave that discussion for another topic!
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